merciful-evans Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 There was very little neck relief on my Casino Coupe. So I decided to do something about it. The truss rod felt very loose to me, as if there was no engagement there. I only ventured a 1/4 turn and could see no change afterwards. I gave it a half hour; still no change. After another half hour there was still no change. Now on some guitars you can see a change immediately. I did a similar adjustment on my PRS a short while ago, and the neck profile changed instantly. Back to the C-Coupe: The following day there was still no visible change, so once again I slackened the strings and gave another 1/4 turn. Again it felt too loose. I then ventured further 1/4 turn and this time I felt some resistance; but not much! After re-tensioning the strings though, there was still no change in the neck. I left it another day and then bingo! I now actually had some relief, but maybe a little too much this time. I made no further adjustment except to lower the action and retune. It felt different of course, and maybe felt slightly better than before. I will leave it another day and then see about having another try. I've never known a neck to react so slowly before. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I'm certainly no expert in this area, as many on this forum are, but I'm thinking your truss rod isn't working. From everything I've ever read you should be getting some resistance and a noticeable change with something like a 1/4" turn within a short period of time, (like an hour or so at most). YMMV, and hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will chime in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 ... I will leave it another day and then see about having another try. I've never known a neck to react so slowly before. :huh: There are necks which take lots of patience until the adjustment has stabilized. Any material combination of neck and fretboard can be affected. My experiences with brand-new guitars say ten to twenty days. It's always just a guess for the first time if 20% of the adjustment works instantly and 80% within the next two weeks or vice versa. Used guitars may become very rigid at the given setting and thus reluctant to react, or they move significantly delayed. Anyway, as soon as the "new" relief is fine and solid, that's it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyHollywood Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I recently bought a used 2011 Casino and it appeared the truss rod had never been adjusted. I experienced something similar to you. I turned it until I felt some resistance and then tightened it slightly until the optimum balance was achieved and the action is now killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I'm certainly no expert in this area, Like I said... There are necks which take lots of patience until the adjustment has stabilized. Any material combination of neck and fretboard can be affected. My experiences with brand-new guitars say ten to twenty days. It's always just a guess for the first time if 20% of the adjustment works instantly and 80% within the next two weeks or vice versa. Used guitars may become very rigid at the given setting and thus reluctant to react, or they move significantly delayed. Anyway, as soon as the "new" relief is fine and solid, that's it! That's one of the reasons I like this place. I never knew this. You can learn something new every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 That's one of the reasons I like this place. I never knew this. You can learn something new every day. Me too. Amazing eh? I will leave the Coupe another 10 days or so before attempting any more. Thank you Capmaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longjohn Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm with you Dennis & Merciful, love this forum. Just got my Coupe last week, great little guitar, but like M.E. I found the neck needing some relief, was pondering posting on the subject & VIOLIN . . . I mean VIOLA, just what I was needing. Merciful Evans - only question I have is which way did you turn the rod, don't want to dis-engage it Got mine in the sunburst flavor, light guitar - 5 lb 10 oz, had to remove the pick guard 1st thing before tuning, beeuutafull finish, couldn't hide it behind a p/g. http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w621/jsl1952/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps89v1trps.jpeg?1446682092651&1446682103545&1446682104256 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 ... Got mine in the sunburst flavor, light guitar - 5 lb 10 oz, had to remove the pick guard 1st thing before tuning, beeuutafull finish, couldn't hide it behind a p/g. http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w621/jsl1952/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps89v1trps.jpeg?1446682092651&1446682103545&1446682104256 That's understood, I also wouldn't want to hide this beauty. Congrats on your pretty catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share Posted November 5, 2015 I'm with you Dennis & Merciful, love this forum. Just got my Coupe last week, great little guitar, but like M.E. I found the neck needing some relief, was pondering posting on the subject & VIOLIN . . . I mean VIOLA, just what I was needing. Merciful Evans - only question I have is which way did you turn the rod, don't want to dis-engage it Got mine in the sunburst flavor, light guitar - 5 lb 10 oz, had to remove the pick guard 1st thing before tuning, beeuutafull finish, couldn't hide it behind a p/g. http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w621/jsl1952/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps89v1trps.jpeg?1446682092651&1446682103545&1446682104256 Truss rod adjustment: I turned mine clockwise. With the allen key engaged: Clockwise to correct for back bow (higher in the middle of fingerboard) Anti-clockwise to correct for too much relief (high points at each end & ‘dipped’ in the middle) I still haven't readjusted to more finely correct mine yet. Its actually pretty good as it is anyway. Love that sunburst on your CC LongJohn. I never thought about removing the pick guard. I may do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longjohn Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Thanks again Capmaster & Merciful, I hear you . . . slow is the way to go Always great info, stories & people here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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