taxman Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 To add one more Lennon look to my Casino I bought a reproduction of the old Epiphone Blue label. The reproduction is nice, right size, but there is coloring missing on the Epiphone 'E'. No big deal really, that's not where the problem lies. The problem lies in removing the orange label from my Casino. Impossible. I have the naphtha. I applied it liberally with a brush over and over and over and over...yet no lifting at all from the orange label. Applied more naphtha, let it soak, reapplied..still nothing. Worked on it for an hour and really no softening of the orange label at all. I'll try again tomorrow maybe, but I am at the point of just forgetting the whole idea. One thing I will say is that I have not noticed any staining from the naphtha inside the guitar. I also got a bit of it onto my guitar and so far I see it did nothing to the finish. This naphtha seems fine to work with. I just wish it would break through the orange label and soften it up. It ain't working. See that orange label in my burst Casino? That thing was somehow welded to the wood. I want it out, but can't get it out. Any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcham Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 You could try heating it with a hair dryer to dry up the glue and maybe the label will just fall off. Be careful though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 It's probably a water-based glue so (oil-based) naptha will have no effect. Wet a sponge, wring it out, and press it over the label for 60 minutes or so. Can't recommend the heat gun approach unless you want to remove the poly off the back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 It's probably a water-based glue so (oil-based) naptha will have no effect. Wet a sponge, wring it out, and press it over the label for 60 minutes or so. Thanks. I think I may try water tomorrow. I'll apply water with a brush and soak the label carefully. Very carefully. I do not want to stain, damage the wood. Only problem doing this removal with water is the original orange label will most likely be worthless after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcham Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I doubt the heat from a hair dryer would be able to hurt the poly. I've seen many Epis in pawn shop windows in direct sunlight that would get hotter than any hair dryer and I've never seen any with the poly damaged in any way. I'm not suggesting directing high heat for a long period of time, just repeat applications over a couple days to see if it has any effect. I don't think the interior wood has much of a protective coating, if any at all, and the glue has most likely gone into the wood. In this case, the only thing I can see is speeding up the drying process on the label so that it might fall off. Any liquid or chemical will probably damage or stain the wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookkeeper's Son Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I've seen many Epis in pawn shop windows in direct sunlight that would get hotter than any hair dryer and I've never seen..... Then you've gotta have the wimpiest hair dryer in the entire world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony_J Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Curious, where did you find a blue label reproduction? Would love one for my Casino too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I doubt the heat from a hair dryer would be able to hurt the poly. I've used a heat gun on the lowest setting to take the poly off two guitars and a neck. Works real well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 To add one more Lennon look to my Casino I bought a reproduction of the old Epiphone Blue label. The reproduction is nice, right size, but there is coloring missing on the Epiphone 'E'. No big deal really, that's not where the problem lies. The problem lies in removing the orange label from my Casino. Impossible. I have the naphtha. I applied it liberally with a brush over and over and over and over...yet no lifting at all from the orange label. Applied more naphtha, let it soak, reapplied..still nothing. Worked on it for an hour and really no softening of the orange label at all. I'll try again tomorrow maybe, but I am at the point of just forgetting the whole idea. One thing I will say is that I have not noticed any staining from the naphtha inside the guitar. I also got a bit of it onto my guitar and so far I see it did nothing to the finish. This naphtha seems fine to work with. I just wish it would break through the orange label and soften it up. It ain't working. See that orange label in my burst Casino? That thing was somehow welded to the wood. I want it out, but can't get it out. Any other ideas? I'm surprised that didn't work. A lot of people recommended this method to me. When my blue label arrives (any day now) I'm going to be trying to the same thing so I'll let you know how I get on. My natural Casino came back from the shop with the label removed but I have no idea how they did it. The label was destroyed though and there was still some glue on the inside of the guitar but nothing to worry about. I've got to be honest, I'm not that bothered about keeping the organge labels but had been told it could be done with Naptha by quite a few different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcham Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I've used a heat gun on the lowest setting to take the poly off two guitars and a neck. Works real well. There's a big difference between a heat gun and a hair dryer. If you want to aim that thing at the hair on your head I hope you have a fire extinguisher handy. Not to mention a phone to call 911 so they can treat the burns on your scalp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 There's a big difference between a heat gun and a hair dryer. If you want to aim that thing at the hair on your head I hope you have a fire extinguisher handy. Not to mention a phone to call 911 so they can treat the burns on your scalp. On the low setting, it's about the same as a hair dryer on high. At least my wife's hair dryer which (if used properly) can strip paint and guitar poly, no problem. We have 3 fire extinguishers and the fire department is a half mile away just in case her coif breaks out in flames... BTW, the water method worked: http://forum.gibson....-not-in-guitar/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Is that a Genesis Brian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Is that a Genesis Brian? Now that's just a silly question Mike, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Now that's just a silly question Mike, LOL. Dang Rob, you are up early this morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Now that's just a silly question Mike, LOL. LOL, I was just checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaSTuS Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Dang Rob, you are up early this morning! What UP, I haven't been down yet Brian, LOL (11:15am). I'm just about to drive into town shortly on one of my weekly rape and pillage extravaganza's, much joy fills my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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