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  1. Thanks! Got from two dealers. Kroydon definitely on the Martin 00 spectrum in terms of tone. Little richer and deeper and more sustain than Tuxedo. Very close to my 1926 00-18. Here are the specs: Kroydon-Bought from seller in Canada. Had for less than 24 hours before it was sold. Gibson’s first budget instrument brand, with the first flat-top guitars, mandolins, and banjos rolling out of Kalamazoo in late 1929, and the last some two years later. The flat-top guitars built during that short period in 1930 are among the most lightly built and beguilingly special acoustics ever made by Gibson. Although not for everyone - due to their fragile build and the extra light strings they run - these featherweight instruments offer the utmost in intimacy, subtlety, and responsiveness to a light to medium hand. This Kel Kroydon weighs in at 2.6 lbs with strings, which is about 25% lighter than one built a year later. The Kel Kroydon’s body is identical in construction to the early Gold Sparkle Gibson L-2 models built at the same time. The braces are shockingly small and narrow - measuring nearly half as tall as braces in later guitars – and the bridge plate is not much more than a veneer of maple at forty-thousandths of an inch thick (1mm). The top is also stunningly thin and has noticeable deflection around the bridge and soundhole to match. The guitar’s neck has full and round carve that’s not massive and, with its nut width of 1-3/4”, feels like a 50s Gibson neck that’s just a hair wider. This avoids bowing seen in thin necks in later models. The bridge pins are set at 2-3/8, and the scale is 24-3/4. Tuxedo l00-Bought from Seller in Portland, Oregon. One of employee’s guitars. 12-fret Gibson L-00 sporting its original black finish and white pickguard. Weighing in at 3 pounds 1 ounce, it’s a featherweight guitar with surprising volume and bell-like clarity. The action is great and it plays cleanly all the way up the neck. This guitar is all original except for a replaced bridge and bridge plate, one small replaced finger brace, and a professional crack repair along bottom of fingerboard. The guitar had a neck reset in the past so playability is excellent. There is a bit of bellying between the soundhole and the bridge which we often find in these lightly built guitars. Original 3-on-a-plate tuners, ebony nut, and rare white pickguard. 12 fret models were made only for the first six months of 1932... And never again. The L-00 250 batch number indicates 1932.
  2. Way too much guitar for me. Thunderously loud...as in louder than my banner J35...yet quite and well defined with a light touch. Pure beasts of tone. I think I can finally stop chasing the dragon. Took them to the local guitar shop and the resident musicians said they’re the best they’ve ever played. High praise indeed! PS thanks for the forum members steering me in the right direction!
  3. Ok I’m in virgin territory here. I want to get a Les Paul and use same type of pickups Peter Green used. I’ve been told to look at the 59 historic reissues and throbak peter green pickups. But I have no idea if you’d recommend this. I want as close to a true 59 as I can get without buying a real one. Want to keep total at 5k or below if I can. Also don’t want chambered or anything if that affects tone adversely. I have a heavy as hell gold top with mini humbuckers and the weight definitely helps the sound. Open to all suggestions on model and pickups. All these reissues make my head spin. Thanks in advance !
  4. Ok I’m in virgin territory here. I want to get a Les Paul and use same type of pickups Peter Green used. I’ve been told to look at the 59 historic reissues and throbak peter green pickups. But I have no idea if you’d recommend this. I want as close to a true 59 as I can get without buying a real one. Want to keep total at 5k or below if I can. Also don’t want chambered or anything if that affects tone adversely. I have a heavy as hell gold top with mini humbuckers and the weight definitely helps the sound. Open to all suggestions on model and pickups. All these reissues make my head spin. Thanks in advance !
  5. Thanks guys for all the help! So what do I do with the 1936 14 fret? Sell it? This one is louder and has greater range but perhaps not a balanced kinda compressed more quite midrange as the 14 fret l00. Is that characteristic of the 14 frets? Worth keeping it as well?
  6. So my l00 arrived. I only have a 48 hour inspection period. There have been some minor repairs and there is some bellying above the soundhole. It’s only 3 pounds so bellying not terribly surprising. What was surprising is how sonically it differs from my 1936 14 fret l00. The 12 fret is louder, has more bass, and sounds less midrangey if that makes sense. I’d prefer no bellying but not sure how realistic that is with these guitars. Maybe someone can chime in. Sounds incredible. A cannon. Like a vintage 0018. Of course sound matters most
  7. Thanks for the Gibson l00 info zomby. I was curious to know that. The Kroydon of that year actually has a neck comparable to 50s Gibsons. That’s one reason I bought it. Based on your advice I didn’t want the thin spaghetti necks. No bowing on this neck. It’s the most desirable year for them Yes blues guitar 11 strings max.
  8. I better drag out the Waterloos at lunchtime.....😳 http://www.folkwaymusic.com/vintage-instruments/gibson-guitars/1932-gibson-l0-0719/ http://www.folkwaymusic.com/vintage-instruments/gibson-guitars/1930-kel-kroydon-kk1-0919/ BluesKing777. Thanks pal. They had the Kroydon for less than 24 hours before I nabbed it. It’s the perfect one. 2.5 lbs with the thicker neck. So now I have the 12 fret l00 tuxedo and this. Look for one guitar and end up with two. I owe King Blues lunch !!! Signed, Broke but Happy
  9. Why did you have to post those links?!?! Actually I called on the L0. It has a mahogany top and was described as kind of trebly. I wanted a cedar top. The Kroydon looks beautiful. But some members warned about their noodle necks and lightness being prone to issues. Also still have the same CITES issue with Brazilian fretboard. If it’s not up to par, good luck sending it back. It sucks both ways to and fro Canada. In the end, I just felt more comfortable with the Gibson name on the headstock and a truss rod. Plus I have a 1936 14 fret l00 burst and this will compliment it looks and sound wise.
  10. Not Brazilian. It’s a mess. Supposed to clear up soon
  11. It was a long and winding road but finally pulled the trigger on a 1933 l00 from thunder road guitars in Portland. It is half a pound lighter than the Kroydon and with a truss rod. Guess everything happens for a reason. After bidding on the Kroydon and shipping prep, they informed me it would take 3-4 weeks to ship from Canada due to CITES and if I wanted to return it then it’d be the same pain with paperwork. So ultimately we decided it was best to pass. Anyhow thanks for all your help. I’ll have a 48 hour inspection period. The repairs were done by Carters apparently. Pretty minor. Finger brace replaced and small cleat for small crack just under finger board. https://www.gbase.com/gear/gibson-12-fret-l-00-1932-black-w-white-pickguard
  12. Thanks zomby. I did but they’re trying to do cites paperwork to send in country. Then I saw the L0. So I could return the kk if I really wanted. But I’ve heard a sound clips and it sounds great. The L0 I haven’t heard and they tend to be more inconsistent from what I’ve heard.
  13. I’m down to choosing between a 32 L0 12 fret and a 31 Kroydon kk1 12 fret. The former is near mint. Around 7750. The latter is all original except for refret and lots of finish wear. It’s 5500. It’s 3.5 pounds so not the lightest Kroydon. Both out of state so cant play them. All things being equal do they differ in sound? I’m curious bc may be worth the extra money to get a guitar in better shape with a truss rod. All input is appreciated. Have to pull the trigger tomorrow! Thanks !
  14. Thanks friend. Looks like I’m leaning heavily towards a kel Kroydon 12 fret. Thoughts ? Given its 12 frets and much lighter than my 37 l00 I expect it sonically to be quite different but perfect still for fingerstyle
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