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I see the price of a Gibson LP Modern Studio is now more than the price of the LP Classic I bought (new) three years ago. You have to wonder when this will stop.

I laugh every time I see this post.

Speaking of guitars, I often wonder how many people are priced out of the market as prices keep going up. Two years ago I had my mind set to get another Gibson but it seems each time I check the price has gone up. When production guitars start to reach the price of used cars, something isn't quite right.

There are some good ones listed here. Another one that come to mind for me right away... Boston's first album

I've still got packs - unopened - that contain gum. Late 70s, early 80s.

It's an illusion. Things are not priced to buy outright, things are priced to obtain through loans. This started eons ago with homes, then we went to automobiles. Now, it seems everything no matter the "price" can be obtained via taking on debt. When I was younger, the thought of using a credit card hardly ever happened. We carried them in case of emergency. Now look at the 20 something year olds and the crap they buy. I know college kids who have multiple credit cards, department store cards, some maxed out already. (This is the same group for the most part that wants their student debt erased) So, sellers continue to sell things at a higher price because the market/buyers cooperate and continue to pay. Think about the car. The question that dealers throw out is "what do you want your monthly payment to be?" People take out 72 month loans now which is insane. Reverb always has a "as low as XX month with Affirm" reminder. I wonder how many go this route. Imagine what would happen if there wasn't this option. I make good money, but I'm not ever going to pay 5k for a guitar. There are 100 other things I could or should purchase before that will give me a better value years from now. So as there are more avenues for obtaining a guitar, the prices will continue to remain high, and continue to increase. The "new" prices will then impact the perceived value of the used prices, and those selling will use that as some gauge.

I know. There is a used LP Standard not far from me. I looked at it in person over a month ago. No mods, a few nics but nothing noticeably bad. They want 85% of "new" retail. WTF would I pay that? And I just checked, the guy still has it listed. Our locally owned music store sometimes lists stuff on Reverb but it's rare. I talked to the owner just today about guitar prices. He said Reverb prices were generally high or flat out absurd, and it is getting more common. He's got a Rickenbaker on consignment, but the guitar's owner set a price (based on Reverb research) that in the end won't help the guitar sell. And 8 months later it's still hanging in there. The other problem he mentioned is when people show up to trade something, they want Reverb prices for their trade or believe the item is worth more than it is. Then some get pissed off when they hear the offer. Go look at the prices on Reverb's Gibson Demo shop. I should have just bought a bunch of Classics last year and flipped them this year. LOL

Im right handed only because i write right handed. At least that's the hand the teacher put the pencil in my hand when I was a kid. I broke my right arm twice and both times ended up writing everything left handed while in a cast. I play a right handed guitar. But i shoot basketball with either. My junior year in high school the coach had me change to right hand to shoot free throws. I eat with my left and, drink left handed, putt (golf) left or right handed, bat left or right handed, full golf swing right handed. I had a foreign languages teacher in high school that would write on the board with both hands at times, at the same time. Freaky thing to see.

It was about 15 feet high up on a wall. Its not a big shop at all. I'm certain they don't have more in the back or anything. One person in there who seemed like the owner. That city is near dead. I bet he gets three or four people in there a day if that. Just call and ask him. He seemed like a nice gent.

https://www.portmansmusic.com/p-40217-gibson-lps5p900gtnh1-les-paul-std-50s-p90-gold-top-wc.aspx

I stopped off at 5 different shops yesterday I had never gone to before. (2+ hours from my home). One shop was said to be the guitar place for all the local area musicians. (The closest guitar center was over 120 miles away). The only new LPs he had were a 2021 Standard and a couple of Studios. The shop owner felt they were priced out of his market, and his customers don't even buy the Studios anymore. At a second store, they had 5 or 6 new Gibson's but the guy working there said they hadn't sold a LP this year. He had a Standard gold top for 2,800. I asked him jokingly if he would take offers. He said check back in 6 months it would probably still be there.

Not really a fan. I listened to KISS though, started with 8 tracks then albums. But after Ace left was done. It's really interesting, Gene had this vault thing. And you could pay some stupid amount of money and he would come hang out, play some stuff. Then you get some container to keep with some items he put together. Its really genius cause there were enough people who signed up for this. After watching a few YouTube videos though, I question the sanity of some LOL. To each his/her own. So, I expect there are enough out there who will pay whatever for this guitar. https://youtu.be/zbSLs1-IPYs

Our local media has a policy. They will not give physical descriptions of people police are looking for, but they will damn sure report someone is at large. This started a few years ago because people complained it was always a certain type of person. here is an example just from TODAY.......they blocked streets off looking for a male suspect. This is a college town. And right next to the college, Frat and Sorority row. There are at least a dozen multistory parking garages within a mile of this location. Yet no one knows who to watch for. LOL The comments on social media are always entertaining. https://www.wctv.tv/2022/04/08/tallahassee-police-scene-barricaded-suspect/

I worked for an NBC affiliate - in the studio - back in the 80s. At the time I didnt much care about anything other than trying to hook up with one of the reporters. We had two producers who ran the show. One of them hated Reagan with a passion. So any national feed that reported something negative he made sure aired. We'd get national stories fed to us all day and used any of those to fill time, The other guy was friends with ppl in the mayor's office. He was also shacking up with the asst news director. So you see things on the news but knew there was always something else going on. The local paper would create problems. The entire place was a zoo to work in and somewhat entertaining. But looking back, it was incredibly bias. The problem news has now is, there is so much that people can find out for themselves. But I think it's more about ratings, money and an agenda now.

The pause at the light - usually someone on their phone (texting or whatever) not paying attention.

Anyone notice people in general, are more aggressive today than before? There is an anger I haven't seen. My commute to work is like a case study in defensive driving. I'm not the slowest driver and I have the citations to prove it. But what I am seeing now on the road is downright insane. There is a difference in driving fast and then driving like a total a-hole. Social media - the amount of arguing has increased. The one-upsmanship, the back and forth.... good night people take what someone else posts to a point they get physically mad. The social media tech giants don't help either because they have shown their own fact checking abilities are far from accurate. Restaurants - I know many who work in the industry. They have complaints too. Short tempered customers, stiffed on tips, customers with a disregard for other customers. It's just not what it was. A friend of mine manages one place and she said it's nearly impossible to keep everyone who works there happy because it can be so contentious at times. And with shortages, the attitude spills over to overworked staff. Schools - violence is on the rise. I won't say much more other than I deal with this daily. I dont know what it is, but something has happened.

Count me in on this as well. Last year, I bought a LP Classic from GC. That was an experience by itself but the price was good (around 1800 I recall). I took it to one of two local luthier's and told him to do whatever was needed. For $80, he restrung it but also adjusted everything else. When I picked it up he had everything written down - before and after specs, etc. He said try it for a few weeks and come back if something was off. It was night and day. I'd say these guitars (at least mine) have issues off the rack. Outside of some play-ability, about all you can tell in a store is the finish and construction, unless you want to start measuring things.

No i didnt in this detail. Thanks for the answer.

I never paid attention to this stuff and now I'm really curious. What is supposed to be the result of the combinations of pulled knobs on the LP Classic. (I read "make it sound like a Tele". I've poked around and just dont see a complete description.

It's all about presentation. When someone comes to my house to buy/pick something up, they are greeted by a doberman. Of course, having all three dogs on the welcome committee is overkill. But the buyer gets the idea. 😆

This is common. I look at GC like a car dealership. There is MSRP, then what they can/will sell it for. I got a good deal on a LP Classic. Friend picked up a Studio with a decent discount. I always try local first though. We had some nice music stores around until GC showed up, then some of them closed up. The "internet" didn't help either. One store became mostly a repair shop. He' still in business and carrys used instruments but the selection is sparse. The other store doesn't carry much guitar inventory any more, mostly horns, and band instruments. I got my first LP from them decades ago. But they're no longer a Gibson dealer and their inventory is a third of what it once was. The manager has vented more than once about the box store down the street(referring to GC) getting first shot at anything that comes out. Its really a shame cause it was a fantastic store for musicians.

Thanks everyone. I am most concerned about the weather. I'm also bringing along a dog. I've located hotels and restaurant/bars that are dog friendly and intend to use a dog day care place in the Gulch. I have money aside to buy a guitar. I'm looking into visiting the following: Carters Gibson Garage Third Man Records Gruhns Rumble Seat

I was wondering if it's worth taking a few days and visiting Nashville - in December. How bad can the weather be? Also, any suggestions on where to stay. I prefer in the city.

My local GC had a used acoustic 12 string I was looking at. I picked it up but good night it was all out of tune, then they told me.... C tuning, and badly at that . One of the employees there told me another employee screwed with the tuning because there were "some songs he was playing the other day". Guy offered to tune it so I waited while he "attempted" to put humpty dumpty back together. Five minutes later and it was still wasn't in tune. I left them with the guitar, they asked me to wait just a little more but I'd had enough. Had they just left it alone I might have bought it.

That's part of it but the book fills in a lot of the blanks. Each had their own "issues" and some of those are not glossed over. I will still listen to their 70s era music if I'm in the mood, but not albums cover to cover or anything like that. IMO, Ace put together the best songs they had. Cold Gin and Parasite were his. Much of the KISS sound as known back then, the bends and the slides, was all Ace. Buckcherry's Lit Up is a take from Shock Me. His solo album was the only one to do anything. Not that it's a verifiable fact, I've read accounts from people that bothered Gene and Paul to no end. Ace was in high demand for a long time from bands whose members were influenced by KISS. He did some performances with Skid Row. At the music awards, Ace appeared with Tommy Lee, Slash, Gilby Clark, Scott and Rob Zombie for this God Of Thunder Thing. But I read this was the night he relapsed cause Slash gave him a shot or something.