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  1. Jerry. both of those Joe Pass Emperor pics are from 1991. One of them is a magazine print ad, and the other is right out of the 1991 catalog. The first Korean Emperor (non-Joe Pass) shows up in the 1986 catalog and is identical to the Emperors in the ad & catalog, minus the signature pickguard and TRC. The JP Emperor II is seen in the 1994 catalog, but I dont have 1992 & 1993 to compare. My dates were a bit of guesswork and internet sluething, which I really hate to rely on because it is oftentimes innacurate.

     

    My guess is that they were putting JP sig parts on any Emperors that were ordered as Joe Pass sigs, and the rest were just standard Emperors. That may account for why you never see the JP models from 1991-1992 or 93.

     

    Here is a Joe Pass Emperor I, but the pickguard sig is more like the JP Emperor II. The ones in the catalog & ad most likely have mock-up parts on them. Just another guess, but it would explain the difference in sigs on the PG.

    http://www.guitar-mu...-with-hard-case

     

    As far as the spruce vs. maple top, I have no idea. I'm not even sure if I have it right on the wiki. [mellow]

     

    Here's what Blue Book says:

     

    "...available in Natural or Vintage Sunburst finishes, mfg. 1982-1992 (as Emperor), 1993-94 (as Emperor II), 1995-current (Joe Pass Emperor II) . In 1994, Heritage Cherry Sunburst was introduced. In 1995, silk-screened Joe Pass signature added to pickguard. In 1996, select Spruce top replaced laminate maple top; Metallic Gold and Wine Red finishes were introduced. In 2000, Metallic Gold and Wine Red finishes disc."

     

    They don't distinguish the MIJ Emperors from the MIKs, which explains the 1982-1992.

     

    I always thought Joe Pass became an Epiphone endorser in September of 1993, so I was surprised by the 1991 ads with him. I just checked and found the origin of the confusion. Joe wrote a letter in September 1993 stating: "I endorse Epiphone Emperor for Gibson but play ES175 they made for me last year - a great guitar." There's no mention of when he started endorsing the Emperor in the letter, but I guess people assumed that the letter corresponded with his endorsement. Here's an actual scan of the letter:

     

     

     

     

     

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    Hope this helps you out. Thanks, and take care.

     

     

  2. hm think mine is a spruce top.. pretty sure since the grain is very straight in line. found this guitar now and its same s92 as mine lol.

    http://www.robwesley...0spruce%201999/

     

    Yep, that looks like a 1999 Spruce top to me.

    "When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes

  3. Here's a good way to decipher the clues. The original Emperor IIs had maple tops, they changed to spruce tops in 1996. My guess is that JP wanted spruce but they decided to use up the leftover maple Emperor bodies. If yours has a maple top, it's one of those crossover models. If it's a spruce top, you're serial # makes no sense at all.

     

     

     

    nice. can i take a close up picture and you tell me if its a maple or spruce top? cuz i have no idea what its made off.

     

    Sure thing, but no guarantees. Actually, I was trying to tell from the photo of the guitar you posted, but there's not enough detail to distinguish the grain pattern.

     

    Spruce is the most common top on an acoustic guitar, and typically it has straight line grain pattern like this:

     

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    Maple is usually not that uniformly straight grained:

     

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    So if you can get a good photo of the grain, we'll take a look at it and see if we can figure it out (no pun intended).

  4. Sorry I didn't get these up sooner. From all your input and from what I've been able find out, I'm still baffled. Except one post, Barcham stated if it had 3 screws in TRC, it's not MIJ. Well, she's got 3 so, she's not MIJ, but that ser. # has got me stumped. Thanks, guys.

     

    57 CH G are the standard PAF style pickups used on Korean Dots. F & R = front and rear. There was also a 57 HOT-G used for LP bridge pickups. The CH indicates chrome covers (I think).

     

    Honestly, I don't see the problem with the serial #, 00 = 2000, 04 = April, 0006 = guitar #6 that month. Samick declared bankruptcy around 1996, and Epiphone subcontracted with many Korean manufacturers to handle their needs. Even the major factories like Unsung, Peerless & Saien could not handle the volume, at one point Epiphone was the largest selling brand and Samick made over half of the guitars in the world (I think they still do). The fact that there's no factory code might just indicate that it was made by one of the other Korean factories Epiphone would use on occasion.

  5. Hi guys need some help with my guitar since the serial is very strange.. it cant be made 92 since joe pass signature model came when he died 94? it has no sticker inside the fhole aswell... and if its a 1999 how do you put toghetter the other numbers?

    here comes pictures

    regards Magnus

     

     

     

    There was a Joe Pass Emperor before '94

     

    but it should have the toggle on the cutaway side ???

     

    http://epiphonewiki....oe_Pass_Emperor

     

    [confused]

     

    Here's a quick rundown of the Korean Emperors as I understand it: Prior to 1993, it was just called the Emperor. Joe Pass endorsed the Emperor in 1993 (September I believe), moved the switch moved from the lower horn to the upper bout and it became the Emperor II. Joe died in 1994, and in 1995 the Joe Pass signature was added to the pickguard & TRC and it officially became the Joe Pass Emperor II.

    An original Emperor should have the switch on the horn, so we know yours is an Emperor II. Maybe it's a really early Emperor II, possibly manufactured before the Emperor II was announced in 1993. I'm sure Epiphone had anticipated the endorsement and wanted to have the new model ready to ship when the announcement was made. And as far as the signature, I wouldn't be surprised if Epiphone upgraded their existing inventory with the new pigkguards to make them current. It wouldn't have been difficult.

    Here's a good way to decipher the clues. The original Emperor IIs had maple tops, they changed to spruce tops in 1996. My guess is that JP wanted spruce but they decided to use up the leftover maple Emperor bodies. If yours has a maple top, it's one of those crossover models. If it's a spruce top, you're serial # makes no sense at all.

    We tend to think of the serial # as an absolute, at least I do. A guitar isn't made on a particular day, and a production run of Emperor bodies might have taken months to finish. And what started off as an Emperor might have ended up an Emperor II. And that run could have supplied Epiphone for a couple of years.

    Just to make things more confusing, and just to demonstrate that things are not always as they seem, look at this interesting ad that is on the excellent Epiphone Wiki page:

    JoepassEmperor2.jpg

    This wording of this as implies that Joe Pass was still alive, and it's an original Emperor (note switch) with a signature pickguard. I assume this was a really early ad, and they wanted to sell off the original Emperors before rolling out the Emperor IIs. I don't think I've ever seen an Emperor with that particular signature pickguard.

  6. You see, the thing is about Jerry, is that everyone thinks that the "Mac" part of his username is part of his actual last name. But it actually stands for "Mack Daddy"! Because thats what he is. An Epiphone juggernaught, that guy is! [laugh]

     

    Thanks, but I'm getting so old I think it actually stands for "Mack Grand-Daddy"!

     

    The effort you've put into EpiWiki is much appreciated.

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  7. I got the info for the LP-100 Standard out of a 1993 Japanese catalog. I wrote it up as such becuase I have never seen that model in any US catalogs or anywhere else. It is basically the same thing as the LP-100 Studio, but named differently, and appears to have an Alder/Mahog (lam?) body instead of the normal Mahogany body....which, IIRC, the LP-100 has never been spec'd with an Alder/Mahogany body as far as I know.

     

    It was not produced in Japan, but its not much of a strech to assume that it was sold only JDM under that name. The Japanese market gets many Epiphone models and colors that we dont get here.

     

    If you guys had looked closely at the pic in the wiki, you would see that the name is LP-100 Standard and the price is in Yens.

     

    Absolutely, the distributor in Japan handled American Gibsons and Korean Epis in addition to MIJ Epis & Orvilles. I was only addressing the fact that it wasn't MIJ as the OP suggested.

     

    FYI, the 1998 Epiphone on line catalog did list Alder / Mahagony:

     

    LP-100 Studio

    Features & Benefits

     

    Scale Nut Length: 24.75"

    Nut Wide: 1.68"

     

     

     

     

     

    Specifications

     

    • Pickups 2 Humbuckers Hardware Chrome Scale/Nut width 24.75" / 1.68" Neck Joint Bolt Neck Material Mahogany Fingerboard/Inlay RW / Dot Body Material Alder / MahoganyTop Alder / Maple

    1998 Epi Catalog

  8. No Epi LP-100 ever was made in Japan AFAIK

     

    94 could be right,

     

     

    Are you positive? Info from http://www.epiphonew...?title=Les_Paul

     

    Les Paul-100 Standard

     

    Japan Domestic Market only

    Epiphone humbucker pickups

    Slim Mahogany/alder body

    Chrome hardware

    Bolt-on Mahogany neck

    Rosewood fingerboard with dot inlays

    Tune-o-matic bridge with stopbar tailpiece

    Gold speed knobs

    2 Vol. 2 Tone controls

    3-way selector switch

    24.75" scale

    1.68" nut width

     

    Colors:

     

    Ebony

    Pearl White

    Red

    Vintage Sunburst

    Antique Sunburst

    Heritage Cherry Sunburst

     

    See Also: Epiphone Japan

     

    Peter is correct, the LP-100s are Korean. All the Japanese LPs are high end set neck models made by Fuji Gen (hollow bodies were made by Terada). Also, I'm pretty sure that there weren't any Epiphone LPs made for the Japanese market at that time, they were Orville by Gibson (or just Orville) to distinguish them from the Korean Epiphones. The Orville brand was used from 1988 - 1998, and when the Orville brand was discontinued, they started using the Epiphone brand on the MIJs. The domestic Japanese models can be distinguished by the headstock which was the same as the Gibson open book headstock. When Epiphone Japan created the Elitist line for export, they designed a unique headstock to distinguish them from the JDM models.

     

     

    That's a rough history, hope it helps. Why not post some pix?

     

     

     

  9. hello, i have a red epiphone firebird lefty that i'm trying to figure out it's age. on the back of the headstock is stamped the word "used". also, on the neck plate is a tape with the numbers 311571543 typed on it. underneath the tape on the neck plate are these numbers U99080xxx with the last three etched out...any help is appreciated...thanks

     

    U9908 is Unsung factory (Korea) 1999 August. Since it was sold as a USED item, the production numbers were scratched out because there's no factory warranty. A new serial number was issued on a sticker and placed over the original number.

  10. Hello everyone!

     

    I just got an Epiphone Les Paul on a charity auction, it was advertised as a "Gibson Epiphone Les Paul Limited Edition", this guitar is pretty cool and sounds great too, but I am unable to find the serial format I got on the guitar anywhere. I am pretty new on this and I fear this is not a true Epiphone guitar. Could anybody here help me with this? The serial number of the guitar is 17031126. (I have attached some pictures :) )

     

    Thanks a lot in advance!

     

    Ric

     

    Methinks it's I 7031126 not 1 7031126. That would make it an older Epi made at the Saein factory in Korea, March 1997. The Limited Edition could refer to the factory installed Bigsby.

  11. I picked up a natural finish Sheraton with the "Epiphone by Gibson" inlay a few months ago. The man who sold it to me removed the serial number sticker, as he thought it was tacky. He also thought the guitar was a newer late 90's model, but when I saw the headstock inlay, i knew it was an older model. The guitar is incredibly clean, almost no fret-wear and it plays very nice. I recently played a newer epiphone casino and i couldn't believe the difference in playability.

     

    Since I dont have an S/N, can anyone tell by the photos which year this guitar may have been built?

     

     

    1986 - 1988. 1986 was the first year, 'by Gibson' was dropped by 1989. Made by Samick in Korea, great guitar.

  12. You're right. That does have nice tone. Great tone as a matter of fact. Does anyone know the model? My wife and I were looking at something similar to it at GC last night.

     

    Dwight uses a Epiphone Elitist Casino. Excellent guitars.

     

    There will be a Dwight Yokum signature model called the Dwight Trash. It's a limited run and a lot of $$$. But definitely unique.

     

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  13. Forget the dater project, all the E by G Sheratons were made in the mid to late 80s (approx 1986 - 1988) by Samick in Korea. The serial #s are just random stickers as far as anyone can tell.

     

     

    I have one of these Sheratons... no serial # I can find, no stickers, nothing inside the guitar.... help?

     

    Help with what??? The serial #s were on little stickers, they get old, dry up, peel off, people take them off. They were random numbers that don't mean anything anyway. The E by G Sheratons were made in the mid to late 80s (approx 1986 - 1988) by Samick in Korea.

  14. So ... what about this one? It's definitely old, the serial doesn't come up in the Dater Project web, the neck is made like from 9 pieces, the stopbar and the PU's are unstamped, there is no sticker inside and the toggle switch has some numbers and hieroglyphs on.

     

    Headstock back

    Headstock front

    Overall

    Inlay

     

    Forget the dater project, all the E by G Sheratons were made in the mid to late 80s (approx 1986 - 1988) by Samick in Korea. The serial #s are just random stickers as far as anyone can tell.

  15. Hello everyone,

     

    truthBOMB from kalamazoo here needing your assistance.

     

    I was given an epiphone solid body with a serial number on the back that is not registered on an of the sites.

     

    I was wondering if someone could help me get an idea of this model and info on it.

     

    thanks

     

     

    ET-275, made in Japan by Matsumoku, early to mid-70s, serial # don't mean a thing.

     

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  16. picked up an old sheraton yesterday... serial # 5033129 was told its a japanese sheraton from the 80's any help on confirming this would be great... rectangle paper label on inside is tan with brown splotchs stating kalamazoo..... old style head stock font with backwards 3 -E in epiphone... two screw hole truss rod cover.. any help would be great

     

    YES!!! March 1985!!! Matsumoku Japan!!!

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  17. could use a little help. I have a Epihpone that was given to me by a family member. I have no clue what model it is, other than it being a Epiphone. The neck plate on the back of the guitar has CI97118562 or it could be CL97118562. I've attached a pic of the plate. any info would be greatly appreciated.

     

     

    Seems to be a Korean Les Paul Special

     

    made Nov '97

     

    CI - Cort factory in Indonesia

  18. It has everything already on it, nicely taped up under the switch with only a red wire and a white wire running from it. Is this a matter that the switch is the only thing that gets installed and pickups don't need to run to the switch? Does the Varitone simply interrupt the signal chain at some point?

     

    Just hook one wire to ground and the other to hot. Just think of your tone control, it has a capacitor hooked up to it going between hot & ground. That cap shapes the tone.

     

    Basically, the switch is just 5 more caps that do the same thing, and each of those caps will affect a different tonal range. The rotary switch just chooses which of the 5 caps get put in the circuit. The choke (usually one side of a small transformer on self contained units) helps keep the output balanced. Gibson uses resistors to keep the switch from popping in between settings, optional on modern switches and usually omitted on self contained units to keep the size to a minimum.

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