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No - try them and you find them surprisingly discrete. Some are louder than others though. J-45 - all in all an outstanding creation on earth - has the ideal volume for an acoustic guitar. Again they come in many sonic variations over the same theme. You would not be the only one - there is a reason so many have called the Advanced Jumbo a canon. I think piano is used about the Roy Smeck / (almost forgotten) Jackson Browne models. Something like that, but don't be too square. Go out and try a Dove (maple), , , , and the 'cousin' known as the Gibson Acoustic Firebird Custom(quilted maple). The latter will probably blow your 🎩 off. . . And then remember : Volume ain't gawd.

Maybe try to change fuel. . (note I didn't write gas)

Obviously not an expert here ☩ whatever it may be.

Aren't most 'modern' crosses 8-pointed. And yes, it's a powerful piece of logo-work. I come to think that this also is called the Maltese cross.

'Xactly. Very good pic btw. - Is it a Fokker D VII ?

Yez, , , I wanted to build up something larger than life - a la the 1965 movie Doctor Zhivago or an early Pink Floyd album. Don't know, might revive the thread a 4th time when the Gibson Bronze wires fall down and find themselves. Shall we say mid-summer. . And as mentioned we still need to know how long these strings will keep ringing, , , or sound good on the Birds. Again will chime back in July. Sure, old steel can get sour. Another factor regarding bad intonation is the nut grooves. They mustn't be too high. Ouh, that's a seriously sensitive angle. I began putting on an extra ball-end maybe a year ago. Don't know, but had an idea the flat b-plate contact is milder than the round. May be nonsense.

> Old thread revived < 3 Time to yet another update on the Gibson Coated Phosphor 80/20 Bronze lights. As mentioned in earlier posts they went off and on a few times over the period since they arrived in the spring of 2020. In fact on in April 2020 - off the following June - on November 2021 - off June 2022 - and then on again August 2022 - finally off in September 2023. All the time both Birds moved in synch and were played almost equally in order to be able to follow the fade the whole way down. Well, , , as you can see in earlier reports they were overwhelmingly powerful in the beginning, close to hyper-artificial. Not my cup of tea, but as they faded some of the qualities I was looking for and expected actually began to appear. A good core-tone with an organic nectar became a solid lasting flavor and that sound'n'feel grew into the bein' the stabile sonic identity of the 2 flyers for quite some time. Still, , , even when they dried out with this taste of coating left, , , , as some slightly alternative basic character(can't say modern). However - the big revelation seemed to arrive when I put on the the new Gibson 80/20 Bronze light stings in Sep. last year. Talking 'bout those 12-53, which have the silver-gold-silver-gold-silver-gold ball-ends. Man, , , they sound good - and more than that - they are the first strings that bring the 2012 Birds back to the sound I bought in 2013 and 14 ❗ Strong - kind of smokey - yet glazed. What a circle - what a triumph. To freshen up what happen we have to rewind to Board-member Janglemore's post in 18th of March the 18th 2023. He then presented the following link on this Forum - https://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6121729&postcount=45 , , , , and received a huge trophy for the effort'n'insight. Heps to U out there Janglem.

Unless you are a Salvation Army chord position person - and many players are. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Yet another reason why I question the authenticity of the photo." The wooden binding makes me believe the pic - it's the way these things look.

Hi S s - thanks for sharing that story. Hope you get a good balance goin' with the right guitar - sure it happens sooner or later. The best Sunday to you

The non-torrefried True Vintage models turned into what you have on the way, , , , and then some 60s with fixed bridge and others occurred. Recommend you dive into that yourself. It's too complicated to write about - compared to how relatively un-complicated it is to do the research. So a couple of groovy hours ahead tomorrow. Ideal Sunday stuff while waiting. . . .

Very beautiful guitar - this looks like the Vintage version to me. Perhaps the first year they were introduced taking over from the so called True Vintage. Meaning torrifried top, that style of tuners, thinner finish. Lucky to find a lefty - wonder how long you have been searching. Hope it lives up to the stunning look.

Point taken - but opening that can is risky business as it leads to so many other themes in life. Where are the reasonable limits in this existence > how many ice-creams, how many things in the fridge, how many holidays and journeys abroad, , how many square-meters to live on, how big a lawn, how many cars, dogs, friends, , , children, , , and wives. . A what about the guy who keeps a herd of 5 motorbikes but lives in a small room in some attic with nothing more. Besides, what is the philosophical reason* for comparing ones weekly meals'n'menus with uncle Benno's granddad who lived his entire life on onion soup and cold boiled water. I have a few friends who a remarkably purist. Fine, , , but now that they've been aware of that for 25 years, isn't time to ask themselves why and how it turned out that way. *Notice I don't say political 😺

Plus 1 - a little 'this is me* mark. A reminder from a fret rarely used : Hey, you should come here more often. . . But yes, in the big picture, absolutely far out

Your archive is appreciated and makes perfectos sense here. It adds a special weight to the Board - just like many other stores of insight knowledge wisdom behind these pages. Keep pickin'

As a matter of fact in 2022 - 'ere we go, , , or went. .

This topic was up not so long ago and the responses were more or less the same. Looong story short = Jez, J-45/50/slope SJ can definitely be fingerpicked. Some of the finest popular folk-tunes from the golden era between 1965 and 75 should prove it in case anybody is in doubt. Hard to see why the short scale would be in the way for max f-p. Quite the opposite, I'm tempted to say. .

Actually long-distance-bought 2 similar guits around New Year with the idea to choose the best. They had different heights (and action) - and 2 significantly different out-puts. Idea was to pick the strong one and lower it a tad. Not too experienced, I chose to follow the guide-videos on the Tube - then go by ear from there. Didn't want max power - needed to 'drain' a bit to find its soul.

A good deal of what you're saying is recognized here. Those are clear and though versatile very powerful p-ups. Wonder if you have a 'height-policy'. . . 🤓

N may be lurking - probably ran out of words, , , not thoughts. .

New behind the ES-335 here - but 1 thing learned already is that the pick-ups mean SO much if you go for some of the classic virtues of this model. They came with the legendary PAFs and though celebrated like the handles of holy grail, those pups had no 1-dimensional formula and thus can't really be measured by other than an overall timbre'n'soul. From then on the pick-ups changed and changed again on a seemingly endless voyage up through time. My brand new Satin Vintage has the relatively new T-type Calibrated, which is fine and versatile, strong, sensitive, warm and somewhat 'creamy'. Not sure it can come up with the well-known and beloved jazzy voice of the early ones though - then again neither sure I'm after that particular sound. Besides the T-types (which are a bow to the plus/minus 1970 version) offer some sort of upgraded version of the mentioned jazziness. And that's not bad at all. . . Look forward to hear what you experience. .

We need another comment from Nick - just to be sure his ship remains 'bove the waterline ~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, well, it's alive, , , and will still be able to tell tales. .

What a burgundy-beaut. Are those P-90s ? Great post. Happy you're happy about the remarkable Gibson.

If it's a new guitar straight from the production line, it shouldn't look like that, full stop. Hard to understand why Gibson let issues like this cast a shadow over the brand. Don't they know people talk. That means the world. My brand new over 3 kilo ES-335 had bindings fitting so bad they must have been fabricated by an imbecile on the plant - employed there as some kind of social experiment.

Agree ^ and maybe Paul got there before George. There's something up'n'light to the tiny 4-string that didn't match Harrison's early solo years.