E-minor7
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18 minutes ago, 62burst said:
It is good to get a reminder that Gibson has some iconic guitars that aren't acoustic, and this is just one of the flavors that the ES-335 can do.
PS: stop having so much fun.
Yes that's right - people with insight say they are among the most versatile el-guitars out there. I'm not of of them, , , but am trying to learn by doin', , , and reading. Like this vintage-mature-burst semi-hollow peace-axe a lot.
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The 2020 just after landing > PLAY ! LOUD
which means new steel
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7 hours ago, MorristownSal said:
EM, mine is a 2020 Heritage Artisan Aged 535 in Ebony. The pickups are Seymour Duncan Seth Lover SH55s. It’s a warm classic bucker sound. I love it. It has a nice classic sound; sometimes I get Gretsch-y tone out of it… like compressed old POCO, and sometimes just some good slightly driven blues. Warm blues. And it has a nice fat clean tone as well.
Not much we see of it here - but you should post some el-sounds when the stars stand right.
As mentioned mine is from a relatively new batch over there, which means is has the T-type Calibrated pick-ups - a nod to the second wave from between approx 1967 and 80. Some say they are too bright, , , must be the people who don't think the vintage 335s can get too muddy (or can't control their knobs). Well, , , it's quite a field to dig into - especially the original PAFs, which some are 'religious' about, , , though those pups don't have any general voice at all.Remembering the profound wisdom in einmal est keinmal (ein est kein
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), I started out with 2 and jammed away some 10 days plus/minus New Year. The other one was a 2022 that came up much softer or less potent - tempted to say m y s t e r i o u s.
After a lot of mind'n'soul-pendul-swinging, the strong creature stayed.
22 - 20
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2 hours ago, MorristownSal said:
Sweetly done and meditative EM.
I have a Heritage 535, and my son has a blonde Gibson ES 335. I recognize the tone. I love mine with a little compression.
Thanx Sal ^ as you may know a 335 isn't just a 335, so much depends on the pick-ups, which (if not modified) means year. What's the name'n'date, , , ond colour of your electric voice ?
Mine is a grown-up-tobacco-58-burst - like it a lot.
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Apropos flaming Doves goin' to quilt - here's my Firebird, , ,
, , , in the company of the new 2020 ES-335
which Santa most fortunately brought just before X-mas.
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On 4/18/2024 at 2:35 AM, PrairieDog said:
I wasn’t going to say it 😄 I did go in and visit with my DIF after reading this thread yesterday
Impressing all the way - suits them to dive brown. Not quite so 'loud'. How I'd like to compare it to my, , , , not Dove, but (blonde) Firebird.
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On 4/17/2024 at 11:04 AM, MorristownSal said:
Ive played exactly one dove. I remember enjoying a warm mellow tone, but not being blown away?
Recall recommending the Dove in the phase where you realized Hummingbirds probably weren't goin' to be your ticket. Never really heard response - the Umanov-incident may have played in. It's hereby drawn back - you are too far and happy down another path. .
On 4/17/2024 at 3:16 PM, zombywoof said:While over the decades I have gotten my hands on pretty much everything from at least early-1960s Epi Frontier on I have never been able to make peace with for lack of a better description Gibson Dreads. Although I make no claims to having dog hearing, I think the reason is precisely what others love about them which is they are voiced more to the upper end than their slope shoulder kin. Then again, I could be on puppy chow.
Have to agree - there is a delicate/thin/clear/tinny high end to most square Gibsons, which in my ears calls for that half step down. However I believe there is a chance the Bird and the Dove arrives there via half-different stairs - maple bein' one key factor of course. That's also why the thin high ends reached are related yet not all similar.
And yes - the 45/50 seem to steer free of this challenge - the horse simply having too much ground-contact.
On 4/18/2024 at 12:01 AM, 62burst said:Frankly, Quinton scares me just a little bit. Maybe if he did a few less sets of curls before the shoot. But the chemistry between he and Paul would still strike me as curious.
The bass that Quint was hearing on the natural-topped Dove was lost on me. At t=:18 , the cherry Dove was warm and up front. At t= :39 , the natural-topped Dove hits the same shape but not so much.
Hahe, , the guys aren't dangerous as long as we don't cross the line. Hope that's not done by calling them a crypto-comedy-duo. In that case I better walk carefully now - done that several times and really like them. .
Quite a surprise you didn't get the blonde bass - it was SO obvious in these cans and without a doubt made me prefer that one. Still - let the 2 guitars break in and we'll see. Both of them will probably end up amazing. Natural for acoustic jams - orange for studio sessions.
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3 hours ago, MissouriPicker said:
The Dove is a beast. Far more guitar than it’s name suggest.
Absolutely yes - but it's no hawk.
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As we know the Doves are pretty rare fliers living in an altitude of their own - and as we also know they are mighty fine guitars, , , not least as recorders..
It's good to celebrate the classic 62 once in while. So now now is now, , , and the remarkable difference makes this film special. Check the Quinton & Paul testers doin' their thing.
And enjoy
Apart from that they don't seem to answer the headline Q - well, , , never mind. . .
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On 4/13/2024 at 4:53 PM, Johnson Blake said:
- my own voice sounds like a cat trying to climb a blackboard to escape my voice, or so I've told myself. My delivery reminds me of the giant Kool aid pitcher crashing through a wall, yet I persist!
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But you may get a break in the stand-up business. .
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O the EJ-16s - workhorse of bronze - sound good here. I still use them to here and there too. The voice is not beyond a healthy roll back, if you ask me. But yeps, you have to sing'n'swing it. .
Admit bein' kind of glad you returned to 6. The little fella signalized retirement.
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15 hours ago, MorristownSal said:
Em… I like it. This slope has a nice neck, a great look (looks more brown than red) and the adj sound is definitely different than any fixed saddle I’ve played. I’ve had an adj experience before that was tonally positive…. A square. It came and went like they all do… because one eye wanders.
It came with a Tusq saddle, and I also have a bone saddle I bought. I just looked where I could find a ceramic saddle to try out.. they are not anywhere. I’ll keep an eye out. Same for rosewood. I love trying things like this.
Its funny. I tried to buy an Eastman slope based on positive memories from 8years back. They have since changed the finish from nitro to a type of poly. The tone is unpleasing to me- brash, thin, and 2 dimensional. This J45 follows right on its heels, and the contrast is stark.
Yes, I think the adjustable square is remembered - was it a contemporary Country Western. Anyway, have fun experimenting. Both the guitar and you deserve the investigation. .
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On 4/6/2024 at 9:03 PM, Sgt. Pepper said:
I would think they would both be removed as a unit since they are glued together.
Can't think anything else - unless something extra complicated ravages the equation.
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7 hours ago, moosesyr said:
They both have 2 piece nuts.
Pardon !? , , , , never seen anything like it. Mine is as normal as it can be.
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Santa sent 2 new Satin Vintage ES-335 around X-mas for me to try and choose from. They were pretty different (could have been sold and adjusted before).
A was strong, straight and potent - had the nicest burst-fade, but some slightly messed headstock edges. B was weaker thus mysterious and perhaps more soulful. Action much lower.
Was very tempted by B, but went with A. Logic was that it would be easier to weaken A than to add A-strength to B. Have not regretted that at all.
The calibrated T-type are surely brighter than fx the original old PAFs or previous humbucker variations that have seen light of day the recent 20 years. It is however a warm creamy pickup and like the strength, you can roll down the brightness if needed. To lower the pups in the treb-side is also a possiblílity - I actually experimented A LOT with the pickup-height after B was returned. And though not bein' an expert at all ended up very happy.
Still - the new batch is NOT like the vintage ancestors (remember they have been around since 1958). The oldies could be quite muddy, which went well with jazz and some types of old school rock. This T-type incarnation clears that haze and steer free of the mud. They offer lots of possibilities, yet perhaps not the classic dampened lounge 335-voice.Never the less they are hereby recommended.
P.S. - both guitars had downright lousy binding-work both on the body and neck. Had to sand it down, which made the fine looker appear like something out of the Murphy Lab. It's actually horrendous for a Gibson and may scratch their reputation again. Can't understand they allow it, but maybe it's part of the lower tag, , , like the satin, which by the way is pretty easy to buff up. .
Let's hear more about what everyone experiences.
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Hi - and heps for the new slope. Very curious to hear your thoughts on the adjustable saddle - and it is of course written in my manuscript to recommend you the real ceramic version. Quite rare, not cheap, , , but worth it.
So please keep us up🎈dated
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On 4/1/2024 at 10:37 PM, Rich H. said:
Looking for information regarding my recently purchase for a 2009 Firebird. I would like to know when they were first introduced, and the number made each year they were produced.
It's one mighty guitar - almost too grande. The 2010 F-bird here has gone down to 11's and handles that well. I can't help you with exact info, but groovadelic is right
6 hours ago, groovadelic said:You might find more info calling Gibson,
Could be good to know. Are you familiar with the Montana-fire story, , , or myth. About the model bein' inspired by a forest-fire near the Bozeman plant ?!
6 hours ago, groovadelic said:One thing I notice is the early ones had a brown tortoise guard and that changed to a reddish color some point in later 2000's... other than that the specs have remained unchanged.
The green flame decoration seems to remain the same, but the tuners were both silver and gold over the years. Always metal tulips though.
And then let's not forget the True Vintage orange-brown version. They are rare. . .
This giant is more autumn burst ~
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18 hours ago, MissouriPicker said:
I guess I can’t use my Hummingbird for busking or jams anymore. In the twenty years I’ve had it I’ve never noticed all of these limitations it has…….
Good MissouriP - I don't want to sound like an idiot to you ears. Let me try to explain. Will do it short.
As you know the H-bird is a very fine and delicate acoustic. Playing in the streets is typically the opposite. There is traffic noise to cut through, people talking, children screaming, dogs barking and so forth. I even once got my Gibson J-45 Deluxe kicked out of the arms while sitting down buskin'. Therefore something quite rough'n'old is better.
Regarding those fascinating but unpredictable 'kitchen-jams' you never know what kind of instruments will show up. Neither do you control the levels of skills in that casual performing-circle. For these reasons I prefer a guitar able to speak up when necessary - one to be heard in the flock, even sometimes in order to set the collective pulse straight. A Martin Dread or one of the louder Gibsons are probably good picks (others can of course do it too). You need bass with tons of authority - you want solid mid-core and clear highs that don't jingle into thin air. Besides I'd go for a guitar that's not too decorated and 'vain', you know. Like when bein' in foreign territory as a boy, yet walking out to meet some new half unknown kids down on the playing ground. You simply had to show up pretty strong and invulnerable to make it. I'm sure you remember. .
All for now - enjoy you Bird as I doo mine
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On 3/30/2024 at 2:36 AM, egoidealmusic said:
Hahaha you win, E-minor7. Maybe that's why I think of the Hummingbird as a more mellow sound than something like a J-45. Now I want one...
Both Birds and J-45s are fantastic yet very different mahogany guitars. It would be extremely hard almost impossible to choose.
The flier is sophisticated and delicate, , , , with something quite simple or primal under the surface.The workhorse is rural and raw, , , with a dimension of finesse hidden and waiting to be caressed forward.
14 hours ago, Silversurfer said:I have the Hummingbird 1960 Fixed Bridge as well and I agree with you - it doesn’t like to be capoed (capo’d?). I think it has to do with scale length as I hear this on my J-45, although not to the same degree. Hummingbirds just aren’t that loud. So, I could see how it’s not the best for playing outside. But they’re great for vocal accompaniment and sure do record well.
I’m torn between using light and medium strings on my Hummingbird. My J-45 definitely sounds better with mediums. No contest. I have mediums on my Hummingbird now and they give it more over tones and overall volume. But you know how Hummingbirds do that slight “chorus“ effect (some say it sounds like 2 guitars are playing at the same time)? I’m leaning towards lights giving it more of that sound, but a bit quieter. I’ve only had this guitar for three months, so I’m still getting used to it. But I do love it.
Enjoy this beauty ~ and remember it will open up then slowly offer a looser louder bass. Give it 8 + years. . .
That 'chorus' effect is new to me. Will definitely listen to hear if it's there. May you travel far together. .-
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2 hours ago, MissouriPicker said:
Seriously, just like “The greatest guitar player,” it’s depends on who you ask. If you like the guitar, use it for whatever music you like. If you’ve like a different guitar for different styles/venues/genres, then use the guitar that is right for you.
Couldn't agree more ^ 🐣
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12 minutes ago, egoidealmusic said:
And yet there were so many records of the late 60s/early 70s that had Hummingbrids strummed on them (wasn't that what was on so many Stones records)? So maybe it's more the style of play in a mix?
Sure - strummed but also slow-flat-picked, , , and that was what made the Hummingbird legend.
Just remember all those performances were done on one the most scorned concepts in acoustic history : The adjustable saddle & bridge. What we hear on those clazzik tracks is burned white porcelain, perhaps even raised above the top - sometimes even in a plastic hollow bridge.
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Take that, international acoustic guitar society ❗
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Listen and learn, all you wannabes and newbies ❕
, , , , and have a good weekend
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2 hours ago, Poopsidoo said:
I recently bought a 1960 fixed bridge hummingbird and love it. However, I’ve never had a hummingbird and I’ve been trying to figure out what sounds great. I am using D’Addario XS light gauge 80/20 strings. The way it sounds when I finger pic and play leads is great. However . I have found out what they mean about it having its own space but not being very good to accompany other Guitars. today I went out on a sidewalk in my town and played some songs. Couple times I would put the capo on the fourth fret cause I’ve always liked that on other guitars. But what I found out was that this hummingbird is not for that kind of thing. It sounded too high-pitched and too thin. I found myself trying to play as tenderly as I could. but maybe that is the limits of this guitar. I’m fine with that and can use this for songwriting and use my Martin out on the sidewalk. I just thought this was an interesting thing to find out.
Understood - the 7 heavens know I lOVE my 12 years old TV Hummingbirds and find the model one of my favorites, but they have weaknesses and I've written 'bout them before. Would never bring a Bird to an acoustic kitchen jam - nor launch it as a street-busker, , , and rarely use capo on the fliers at all. My Birds are excellent as instruments in the sofa ritual - just me and their warm kool snappy primitive yet utterly sophisticated brown-orange presence. There they stand clear and ultra defined - will give everything back with immaculate loyalty, which is exactly what you want silence to hear. They are a dream to play, , , and feel/sound'n'look like bliss.
Hover high but permanently live half a step down.
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19 minutes ago, Buc McMaster said:
The guard in the photo is not attached. The 'flimmer-frays' you see is the edge of the clear wrap I put on the adhesive face so it could be placed on the guitar without sticking........just a visual check.
Aya, , , thought something like that. You usually perform very competent modifications. Enjoy
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"Who nothing dares sits and glares"
Are the upper edge-curves clean - seems to be signs of flimmer-frays.
Heps to your appetite for experimentation.
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Always entertaining to revisit something that impressed in the past - in this case 3 decades ago. Gives a fine impression of how outer'n'inner would moved (or stayed) since then.
I'm close to saying the orangy-Dove has the tune-o-matic bridge. But what about that pale one in the beginning. .