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  1. My only first-hand experience with Gibson customer service was handled very professionally back in 2012. I dealt initially with an authorized Gibson repair person (as specified by the company). Sent him photos of a separated body glue joint on a five year old LP Double-Cut purchased new. He contacted Gibson, and they asked to have it sent to them in Nashville. I was given the contact info for a customer service rep in Nashville, and from that point on was in communication with him. The guitar was deemed not repairable by Nashville, so they offered me my pick of any current model of similar value.
  2. This guitar was definitely built in 2011, with a typical Gibson serial number. The Certificate of Authenticity (COA) is legitimate. I have a 2011 ES-335 with P-90s, with the same setup. There was no separate custom shop at the Memphis facility. In reality, models with a COA like this were limited editions or special runs, sometimes exclusive to a particular dealer - usually with a few altered or unique features. Gibson and/or sellers would often call them ‘custom shop’ models, but all of this was more for marketing purposes than anything else. There were also some Memphis models produced in this era with actual Custom Shop (CS) serials numbers & headstock logo, but these models were also manufactured on standard assembly lines. They sometimes included the aforementioned limited edition or special run models, but also included at least one ongoing production line model, the ES-339, first released in 2007 (I own a 2009 with the CS moniker). Another I know of (and own) with a CS serial number & logo was billed as a limited edition, but remained in production for four years (ES-330L). So yes, this stuff can be confusing, and similar questions do come up from time to time - you are not alone! Edit - Almost forgot, Gibson has frequently used standard Grover tuners on ES models & they most likely are original on the instrument you’re considering.
  3. That's the exact model I have, and it really is a very nicely done version of McCartney's instrument. But the seller's listing is slightly off, as this model was technically never called an Elitist by Gibson/Epiphone. Officially, it was the Paul McCartney 1964 Texan, as developed for McCartney's Adopt-A-Minefield fundraiser. Indeed, 1,964 were built by Terada in Japan as he noted (and then there were the two Montana-built versions, also made for the fundraiser). All of that said, I have seen the McCartney model called an Elitist before, even by dealers. I imagine some of the folks who've listed it that way were trying to provide a build-quality frame of reference, as the Elitist moniker is well known and respected. Only problem with that is the possibility of some confusion, as there actually was an Elitist Texan model built by Terada! It was quite different in the details of it's construction, and had a notably different appearance because it was not built specifically as a copy of McCartney's original instrument. I can't recall it's initial release date, but it shows up in the 2004 Epiphone catalog along with a number of other Elitist acoustic models - all of which were discontinued within a few years.
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    Lovely instrument - Congrats & Enjoy!
  5. I’m guessing the headstock taper variations are just a matter of lens angles. Notice how even Boyd’s two shots of the same guitar look vastly different (front vs back).
  6. These tuners were 100% original equipment on many Gibson and Epiphone acoustics built in 1967, and they are of Japanese origin. In particular, I’ve seen them on numerous roundshoulders from that year (including Texans), as well as the B-25 and it’s Epi Cortez clone. Edit: Again, these were only utilized by Gibson for a period of time in 1967. If you’re lucky, the headstock hole spacing might not have been changed, and 3-on-a-plate Klusons might drop in - covering many of the holes. Hope it ends up being an easy swap!
  7. Glad they did the right thing & offered a full refund. Happy hunting in the quest for another ES-125!
  8. How very cool that you had such a fine instrument at the age of twelve (and still have it!). I was fifteen in 1966, but five years away from initially tinkering with the guitar. Currently I too have a '66 Epi acoustic - a Cortez (B-25 clone), which I dearly love for it's tone. The neck is 1-9/16" at the nut, but the profile is rather deep & makes it work okay for me. As for Texans, mine is a 2005 McCartney '64 Texan, made by Terada (the Elitist folks) in Japan for McCartney's Adopt-A-Minefield fundraiser project, and sports a 1-5/8" nut. The wider nut on this brand new Montana Texan model will certainly be appreciated by many players.
  9. ES-125s are plentiful on the used market. The lack of disclosure regarding the additional damage is not okay at all in my book. I'd return it in order to look for another, and ask them to cover the shipping cost since they did not fully disclose the instrument's condition. A sunken top & notable cracks are structural issues you should have been made aware of. I say this having previously owned a '50s ES-125, and currently owning a '66 ES-125T, so I know they can get under your skin in a good way & you might not want to let it go. In that case, asking for a significant discount would certainly seem reasonable -perhaps $200 or you send it back (which in all probability they really don't want to have happen). Again personally, I would not want to give the dealer a pass on this, and there are many other ES-125s out there. Hope it all works out to your satisfaction.
  10. Wow - Very impressively close! Thanks for posting, JC.
  11. Interesting - A different beast altogether. Thanks for the info.
  12. Fwiw - I have a maple CJ-165ce made in 2007, one of only two years where they made this model with a soundhole-mounted pickup control system (as opposed to the side cut-out mount). Tonally, I find it to be quite satisfying & very similar to my J-185 in it's well-balanced response, but with a little less depth to the overall sound (to be expected with the smaller body). Super nice couch guitar, imho. Aside from that, Dave I'm curious about the archtop on your wall, next to the Nick Lucas. I can see that the back is braced. I used to own a 1948 L-48 with a solid flat braced back & solid sides (all mahogany). The instrument's top was solid pressed mahogany. Anyway, I've never run across another similarly braced back on an archtop, so I'm very curious about what model you have there!
  13. I purchased a new natural finish 2006 figured-top ES-335 made in Memphis, and I do recall that some 335 models had been coming out of Nashville as well. If I remember correctly, these typically were intended to be more specifically detailed reissues of particular past models, and they were highly regarded.
  14. Welcome Troy - Well, for whatever reason, Gibson apparently does not want to release production totals to the public. As for your specific guitar - Based on the Memphis instruments I own from that time period, the little bit that I can tell you is that the HB model number was seen on other instruments at the time - but those numbers most likely only made sense to Gibson! Regarding the year of your guitar, Memphis build quality was very high in 2012, and VOS models typically were seriously executed reissues. It’s probably not going to be that rare of an instrument, but it definitely has value in the market & would be considered a keeper by many. Congrats & Enjoy!
  15. Your serial number makes it a 1966.
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