MaxiumburnN

thank you for your opinion. luckily, I don't have any cancer yet. But I'll let you know.

so to update you guys it's been a couple years since I made original post. I had to take the pick guard off my L4 and I put it in a room and I haven't had anymore problems with the outgassing that I can see. It's probably outgassing in the room which I can't see it but the guitar is OK. i'm thinking that the sealed case that it came with contributed to the problem. because the reason I say that is because when I was in the case with the pick guard on it I was having these problems. Another reason Gibson needs to fix this thing is because if there is outgassing? that means there might be some kind of gas that submitted that might be toxic to human beings or carcinogenic. clearly it's some kind of plastic vapor which can't be good for you.

You guys have got me all wrong. I'm trying to motivate you and Gibson to make a guitar that lives up to the brand. Because I am passionate about Gibson guitars is in that clear from my statements. the thing that bothers me about this form is that some of you guys represent the company and you're trying to totally deflect any criticism of it. But, you're also not stating that you do represent the company so it looks like you know it could be just some Joe blow guy in the forum which makes it a deception. When in reality you guys should be saying stuff like yeah you know you have a point you have bought a lot of our merchandise. But no I am like lying about what's going on, I'm keeping my guitars under the water it's totally ridiculous what people have said in this form and I hope that those people don't represent Gibson.

I guess you represent Gibson since you seem to speaking for everyone in the forum? Who said I'm not the original owner??? Please be careful how you answer this question because you really don't know who I am. If you represent the company you should state it.

This happened to 3 Gibsons over 10 years. Gibson should cover these particular guitars because they are supposed to be the very best luxury items and are very costly to obtain. They clearly should have a guarantee for the faulty construction but not misuse. Since they claim to be the best they need to admit the well documented defect and fix it. If someone could pull up the Archtop guarantee I'd like to see it.

here is just one of my expensive Gibsons that had the outrageous pickguard deterioration, this is the third guitar like that. take a look, I had to remove that pickguard. A super400 Stein you do'nt know what you are talking about. The Gold parts started to turn green and oxidize with that defective part.

It is clear all you mother****ers work for the company.

Yeah the manufactures always try to blame the defective part on the person who's operating whatever the machinery or the car or whatever and it takes a court case to show them what time of day it is. But nowadays the public sympathizes with the people. If you work for Gibson a better time to wise up You can't hang with the debate bro give it up..

So Steins logic is that if somebody buys an item secondhand from a company that makes the defective product that the company is no longer responsible but the person who sold it to them is responsible for that only?? If that were the case no cars would ever be recalled if they're sold secondhand that's ridiculous logic and US law does not support that argument because it is defective.

It doesn't matter if I am the original owner. It is a defective product. The fact that some of them were bought used and some where bought new with the same problem only re-enforces my claim. And why would I show my receipts??? I don't know you and you're not trying to help. It is the light brown tortoise shell pick guards that have this problem.

Furthermore if it pick guard is toxic which means that ihas a potential to harm a human being why on earth would Gibson continue to make that.? I hope you guys could forward this discussion to your legal department. Because you guys don't know how to handle this question.

And the canard that Gibson is actually making the new guitars just like vintage is totally false 1960s L5's for instance has a bridge that has some sort of plastic inserts in the saddles which gives the guitar a distinctive sound the new Gibsons have metal or wooden bridges. when is Gibson going to start making those bridges for the new L5.?

Saying that the guitars were always made that way make them desirable by the customers is not true first of all. I am one of the customers and I do not want the guitar to have a corroding pick guard. How on earth would anybody want that for their guitar. In fact I am A person has spent a considerable amount of money on Gibson guitars and as such I'm letting you guys know what's going on. Not everyone looks at Gibson guitar forms and was told by the dealer that you must air out your damn guitar every month so it doesn't corrode the gold parts, If that's the case then Gibson should put a disclaimer on the guitar when you get it saying by the way you have to air out your guitar or this condition could happen. But why would you have to do that why can't you just make a pick guard that doesn't dissolve surely there is technology to do so. Or how about just making a pick guard out of wood like Ibanez or Eastman which are Chinese for god sake.

You know if somebody had a class action suit against Gibson for the **** you know they would correct it

OK you know I was upset and you know still a little bit upset because this happened o an n L5 I had a super400 and I have L4 and the all three of them the pick guard started to go on them you know maybe I'm lucky because I could afford to have all these great guitars but you know it's just not right if you put them in storage and dontvlook at them for like six months and they have this corrosion problem. I had to take the pick guard's off the L5 and super 400 and then the most recent guitar that I had was the L4 from about 2004 it was the Namm show guitar and the friggin pick guard is corroding the gold and it's got like a killer finish and I'm just really upset that you know nobody in this form very few realize that what's going on here. You know the manufacturer should make a pick guard that doesn't do that ****.

So that's all I'm going to say on this topic fellas.

If you think this is a confrontation, you haven't been in any fights. The companiy needs to be called out to account for this because it's not right.. I think the companies lazy and just doesn't want to change because not enough people are complaining about it and if enough people complain about it then They'll change.

What you never heard of could fit in encyclopedia.

Dear low level staff person, they can do something about these defective pickguards, they can make them from a different plastic, they can make them out of wood if need be. How ridiculous is your statement "They made a guitar to play, not store, and a case to carry it in, not to store it" Just how are you supposed to store it then if not in the case??? If that is so then they might mention that there is a time limit for storage on the literature.

The guitar was stored in a bed room upstairs closet. The L4 has custom shop case which is super tight and plush. This is probably contributing to the problem. But It was not just this guitar: A super 400 and L5 did the same thing. stored In a moderate human environmental conditions. I am not going to store them in direct sunlight or damp basement. If you know these guitars, this is not a random problem. Why can't they fix this? None of the other guitars have this problem especially the solid bodies or guitars with wooden pick guards. You guys are trying to deflect the problem. It is the pick guard plain and simple!. By the way if happens to my archtop gibson it will happen to yours. So watch out. Oh no, this could never be a manufacturer problem, right so therefore, I had to store them improperly,,? Right..

These guitars it worth over $10,000 it doesn't make any sense that they manufacture a part that is defective under certain conditions meaning it's in its case too long???which is ridiculous. Maybe they need to design a case that lets oxygen in and vapors out at while making it waterproof at the same time. Have you thought of that? It's just too much money to be spending on something that you have to replace that you thought was a luxury item but it falls apart it's not right! I want to know what Gibson is going to do about it?