This is a subject I was wondering about. I do all my own setups. Acoustic and electric. I have a tough time when trying to play a new guitar. Even the ones that are the nicest around my home town. There are Gibsons, Martins, Taylors Collings, really some nice high end guitars. Or high priced anyway. To me, everything is not only too high not only at the 12th fret but also the first. When I go to play I expect guitars to not only be playable but tunable as well. Was at a local shop the other day. Initials are GC. Every acoustic in the store was unplayable. these were guitars priced between the $2000-$4500 US. I pulled down a $3500. Taylor. Took 2 quarters out of my pocket, slid them under the strings at the 12th. There was still space between the quarters and the string. I don't know how anyone would buy something that has that kind of action. This was a brand new guitar. Not an isolated incident. Different shop different town 10 miles away. This place, Mom & Pop place. A Taylor/Fender shop. Nice wood room with humidifier in it. Picked up an 814 and same thing. Just pushing the string stretches it so sharp that it is un tunable.. My main acoustic for the past 15 years or so is a Gibson J185. Have short fingers so I like the shorter scale. Have it set up with 11's String height at 12th fret 6-.052, 5-.050, 4.048, 3-.046, 2-.044 1-.042, First fret 6-.015, 5-.014, 4-.013, 3-.012, 2-.011, 1-.010. Intonation strobes with Peterson 490 Dead Nuts. Also have a 000 Martin set up to the same specs with the same strings. Both stop the strobe open and fretted. I can play my guitars for hours at a time, without much fatigue. So if I can get an acoustic to play this sweet, you would think someone trying to sell one could at least get it close. Another note. My 185 when I got it I couldn't do a 45 minute set with it, without getting cramps in my hand. Now it plays just as easy as my Les Pauls.