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Everything posted by Wmachine

  1. Yes, that is pretty much it. But the Specials otherwise are not worth counterfeiting. If it is a Chinese knockoff, it will not be a very exact copy.
  2. It is just a letter. Sure it may imply a Junior, but it is not a Junior. Since Gibson does not define what it is, it is just another letter. Yes, like the M. Like Sgt. Pepper said we need 20 more variations.
  3. And that non-centered '64 RI shot is a studio pic! Actually, mine is quite centered: The Lucille is amazing. When you open the case, it looks like a jewel laying there. Feels great, plays great. It is hard not to be totally impressed with it. But here is the best kept secret about it: It is a high gain rock machine. ES models, though used for hard rock even, have limitations due to feedback at high volume and gain. But with the lack of F-holes and even the choice of pups lets this really come alive at those ES forbidden levels. Sure, we obviously think of it as a blues guitar. But crank it up to 11 and you'll see it go where no other ES model can go. Can't say how the EPI model would be, but I think it would be decent. I would never have bought a Gibson one, but I got mine at a mind-numbing price brand new from the CMI blowout years ago.
  4. The top wood for that guitar is called "plain" as opposed to figured, so you will generally see no figuring there. There are other cherry finishes that are much more transparent and show their beautiful plain tops more easily. Like my avitar pic guitar, a 2016 '64 ES-345 reissue (using a stock shot for clarity): That is a different cherry ("sixties cherry") and a different finish (VOS) I think my 2016 Lucille has the same Cherry color and finish as yours. I think it is less transparent. It does have subtle figuring in the wood, though it is not spec'd as a figured top. Much harder see from a distance and even harder to photograph. In person it looks like glowing embers. Again, a stock photo for clarity. But like you say, even the stock photos don't bring out all of the beauty.
  5. There are various s/ns that are not covered by that number search (like ME and some of the reissues), so that doesn't mean Gibson never heard of it or it is not legit. Will take some investigation. I would start by calling or writing Gibson and go from there.
  6. You said it is a great guitar. Isn't that what it is all about? Is this really that important? It appears to me that everything should be able to be touched up. I would never ever return a "good one" like you say you have for insignificant cosmetics. But that is not a typical forum response. Play that bad boy and stop being distracted by the little things, including forum grumblings.
  7. I think it is a shame that it is "killing" you. It looks great. Personally, I think it gives it a very subtle unusual touch. I would hate to be that sensitive to something that is insignificantly cosmetic. I think you would be doing yourself a huge favor if you could learn to ignore all the forum hype on cosmetics, and just dig in and enjoy playing it as intended. Cosmetics are a never ending diversion that can only get in your way, drive you crazy, and keep you from playing and enjoying.
  8. I'd contact Gibson. They will still have the specs on it regardless of origin. But Gibson is becoming less and less forthcoming with the amount of detail in the specs they give, onsite and otherwise. So you still may not get that level of detail, but I'd still ask. Edit: posted same time as answer
  9. Just because you don't agree with me (which I couldn't care less about), I'm no less entitled to my POV here than you are, so stop trying to dictate what others say.
  10. A 2020 made in Nashville ES model will come with a COA only if it is a Custom Shop model. If it is a Gibson USA model, it will not come with a COA, just like all other Gibson USA models.
  11. Wmachine


    All Memphis ES guitars should have come with COAs. Thus the OP question of what they are doing now that they are made in Nashville. The answer from Gibson, though not as complete as it could be, pretty much confirms what I said in my last post. The Gibson USA ES models will not have them. No regular Gibson USA model come with them. Presume Gibson Custom Shop models will continue to have them same as before.
  12. If you insist, as is your right for it to be flawless, then by all means send it back. Done, end of story. But It look like you're will to consider options. I would think this should be about what you end up with, not what you start with. Once again, the knee-jerk chest beating "I'm offended, send it back!" reaction may not be the best in the long run. ALWAYS, the first thing I would do is determine whether it is a "good one" or not. Play it, and objectively evaluate it. What I would do would totally depend on this. It may actually be a great one, but so far it appears you're not past the obvious flaws. If it is a good one and the fretboard would clean up and you could live with the dings for the right price, then start to think of what deal would be acceptable to you. If it is not a good one, great! You have perfect reasons to send it back. That case design should never had made it to production. Another "What were they thinking moment". As much as I really like to have original cases, I would get another case for it regardless. So depending on what your feelings are on the case, negotiate accordingly. I doubt they would give you another case in any kind of a deal, so that may not be an option. The typical forum responses reveal that getting a cosmetically perfect guitar is far more important than getting a "good one". But that's not me. And to anyone who doesn't know what a "good one" is or means, I respectfully suggest they find out before they go guitar shopping. Unless they are buying it just to look at it..
  13. Wmachine


    Good question. More like for what models will they issue COAs. Unless they change something, it would be the same as before in Nashville: Yes, Custom Shop, no for USA. And that would of course mean that now only some of the ES models will come with them, and those would be the Custom Shop models. I would expect this, but anything is possible.
  14. Call or write Gibson. They will be able to help with this.
  15. Could be. Maybe they'll just send it to you in pieces parts, and let you assemble it.
  16. Not all. Should be pretty simple: Call or write Gibson with s/n. They can tell you exactly what it is.
  17. Probably? Like you know that??? Sounds like a reckless statement. OP, there is one possibly huge advantage to buying from Best Buy. Find out if you can "return to store" if there is an issue. If you can, that advantage should be obvious now.
  18. The pad may have reacted with the nitro. A much closer look at it would be needed to tell anything more.
  19. Correct. But sometimes they do state a specific number made (or to be made) but they are not numbered. And then there are also the hide and seek numbers that are out there. When there are some special runs, there is the "press" sent to dealers, which the dealers simply repeat on their webpage. Sometimes say, for example, "only 60 made for worldwide distribution". That come to the dealers directly from Gibson. But now if you contact Gibson about those same numbers, Gibson says they don't have any numbers.
  20. Do you mean you don't know the serial number, or it didn't have one?
  21. There is pretty much no year that is a bad year for a Gibson ES-175s from everything I've read. I don't believe they "suffered" any in the Norlin era. The usual "find a good one" applies, as it does to any model of any year. Look nice! But that from afar with no scrutiny.
  22. Some ES-335 can be found right here on the Gibson site going back to 2015. Not all inclusive, however. http://legacy.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Gibson-Memphis.aspx The newer the model, the less forthcoming Gibson has been with in depth specs on their models. You can also use the Waybackmachine to dig further back in specs on the Gibson site. It has always said to try as many in person as possible. This has never been more true than with necks on ES-335s. They are known to vary considerably even within the same model. So this needs to be understood when getting feedback from owners.
  23. Just an observation. I'm wondering if what you have is an indication of the overall quality suffering from the move from Memphis to Nashville. I have a 2016 Studio and the quality is excellent. The lesser cost is not due to any shortcuts in quality and construction. In fact, it is probably a bigger bang for the buck that the more expensive models.
  24. Once again, this illustrates (pardon the pun) 1. Why initial claims (especially of oddities) should be taken with a grain of salt. 2. Why pics are so important.
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