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  1. Yep absolutely normal.....There is a video on youtube of Gibson Final Inspection and they just hold down 1st and 15th fret and tap over the 7th fret, there should just be some bounce.....I do it that way with all of my Gibsons and don't measure....I just straighten neck while holding 15th fret and capo on 1st fret and straighten until the Low E rests on the 7th thru 9th frets....then back off an eighth at a time until you get some bounce at the 7th fret for relief while in playing position….Just to see afterwards using a feeler gage, all of them pretty close to .008 at 7th fret when holding down 1st and 15th frets.
  2. It looks like the intonation is way off. Your E and A strings are way out.
  3. Great! At least we have some kind of an origin and it is as I thought, initiated in Dan Erlewine's book. Look how far and wide that .012" has spread since then and even Dan didn't use it.
  4. I know Dan Erlewine has written several books wherein he states the .012 is the Gibson Factory Spec and there are many setup guys on YouTube and other websites that state the same thing. However, I cannot find one instance or document from Gibson themselves that even mention a spec measurement. If you as Gibson they respond that the necks have "Very Little Relief" or instructions on getting the neck as straight as you can and then back of truss rod wrench either 1/4" or 1/8". I find the backing off 1/8" to be ideal and 1/4" too much when setting action at spec of Low E at 12th fret 5/64" and high E at 3/64". So does anyone have anything documented directly from Gibson that states the factory spec is .012 neck relief. If so please share it. Below link is the Gibson Custom Shop setup tips that also coincide with backing off 1/8". Not desiring info on anyone's personal preference setups, just Gibson spec one only as I realize they are subjective and a lot set them up their own ways. http://archive.gibson.com/backstage/tech002printable.htm
  5. How about a pic....like they say, "if there is no pic, it didn't happen" It is basically a Les Paul Custom, Right? With a figured Wine Red Top?
  6. More often than not the Low E and A string saddles are facing the rear anyway and cannot travel anymore by flipping them if sharp. The D,G,B, E strings are facing forward and can be flipped if string is too sharp and there is no more travel.
  7. The hex key is for adjusting height of the bridge instead of turning the wheels with your fingers. You need a Gibson truss rod wrench to adjust the neck, it fits over the nut underneath the truss rod cover at the headstock. Did you put on brand new strings before intonating them? If not, then do so first and then stretch them good several times, tune to pitch and then intonate using a good quality tuner. Tune open string, then fingered 12th fret, if sharp move saddle back, if flat move saddle forward. If the low E is still sharp then flip the saddle, but I doubt that it is sharp if it is all the way back. When you put the new strings on take a tape measure and measure the low E from the front of the nut and adjust the saddle center to 24-3/4 inches as a starting point. It should be pretty darn close. Is the Low E string height at 12th fret 5/64 or lower from top of fret to bottom of string? If it's higher than that it could be sharp too. The guitar came or is supposed to come with supplied accessories---- Truss Rod Wrench, 2.5mm hex adjustment, and polishing cloth. If you didn't get the truss rod wrench with it contact Gibson Customer Service and they will mail one to you. The truss rod wrench looks like a small pipe with a Philips screw end on it.
  8. Try this, first adjust your neck until it is as straight as you can get it, capo 1st fret and hold down 16th fret where the low E lays flat or nearly flat on the frets. Then back off counter-clockwise the truss rod nut 1/8 of a turn. Adjust action low E 5/64 at 12th fret between top of fret and bottom of string, high E 3/64. Do it in playing position. Then measure low E string saddle from front of the nut to center of the saddle and adjust to 24-3/4". Set the A 2/32 in front of the E and D 2/32 in front of A. Set low E saddle center of bridge post and set B 2/32 back of E and G 2/32 in back of B saddle. Do this with new strings. Then fine tune intonation with a good tuner after stretching strings good. Hold down strings at 22nd fret and adjust neck pickup from pole piece to bottom of string to 3/32 bottom both E strings. Do the same with the bridge pickup but set it to 1/16 both E strings. Try that and it should play fine.
  9. This yesterday from Gibson Customer Care, Hello, Set-up specs are the same for Les Paul’s SG’s and ES-335’s. Here is a link to a great article which provides instructions and specs for set-up: http://www.gibson.com/Support/Tech-Tips/Basic-Guitar-Setup.aspx . To set pick-up height, you first need to hold all the strings down at the 22 fret and then measure to gap between the bottom of the outside “E” strings and the top of the pole piece on the bass side and one the treble side for both pick-ups. For the neck pick-up, the gap on either side should be 3/32nd” and on the bridge pick-up, the gap should be 1/16th” on either side. Gibson sets our necks up to have very little relief. Thanks for writing us, Gibson Customer Service 1-800-4GIBSON service@gibson.com • The Gibson Forums are provided for Gibson Fans to share opinions and information about all of the brands in the Gibson family. Become a Gibson Forums member today, visit http://forums.gibson.com/ • Sign up now to receive the latest news from Gibson http://www.gibson.com/emailsignup.aspx ***CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is considered a private and proprietary exchange between Gibson Musical Instruments and its customers, and is intended for the eyes of the original recipient(s) only. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ***
  10. Wild Bill, if it plays fine and doesn't fret out or buzz.....then just play it. If you set the neck relief to very little like Gibson says and then set the action at 5/64 and 3/64 I doubt there would be a problem with first fret using an .08, but why would you want to do that....If I were you, I would just leave it alone and play it and quit worrying about measurement numbers unless you need to set it up because it don't play right. If you can play a real fast boogie woogie starting with the low E and then the A string at first fret, 5th fret, 12th fret and 17th fret and it plays clear and easy.....the neck has right relief and your action is good for you. Just a tip.
  11. Wild Bill, Gibson Specs for action are @ 12th fret, 5/64 low E and 3/64 high E, The neck relief is not .012 as Gibson sets them up with very little if any neck relief. They will play with a straight neck a lot of them will even with action lower than factory spec. They start with a straight neck and then give a counterclockwise turn of 1/8 to 1/4 and that is it, most are just 1/8. Below is email I got from Gibson Customer Care yesterday on neck relief and pickup heights. They also give the link to the setup they use. Cheers Hello, Set-up specs are the same for Les Paul’s SG’s and ES-335’s. Here is a link to a great article which provides instructions and specs for set-up: http://www.gibson.com/Support/Tech-Tips/Basic-Guitar-Setup.aspx . To set pick-up height, you first need to hold all the strings down at the 22 fret and then measure to gap between the bottom of the outside “E” strings and the top of the pole piece on the bass side and one the treble side for both pick-ups. For the neck pick-up, the gap on either side should be 3/32nd” and on the bridge pick-up, the gap should be 1/16th” on either side. Gibson sets our necks up to have very little relief. Thanks for writing us, Gibson Customer Service 1-800-4GIBSON service@gibson.com • The Gibson Forums are provided for Gibson Fans to share opinions and information about all of the brands in the Gibson family. Become a Gibson Forums member today, visit http://forums.gibson.com/ • Sign up now to receive the latest news from Gibson http://www.gibson.com/emailsignup.aspx ***CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is considered a private and proprietary exchange between Gibson Musical Instruments and its customers, and is intended for the eyes of the original recipient(s) only. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ***
  12. Wild Bill. I just got this response from Gibson Customer Care Today and they say Gibsons are set up with very little neck relief. Here is their email to me today. Hello, Set-up specs are the same for Les Paul’s SG’s and ES-335’s. Here is a link to a great article which provides instructions and specs for set-up: http://www.gibson.com/Support/Tech-Tips/Basic-Guitar-Setup.aspx . To set pick-up height, you first need to hold all the strings down at the 22 fret and then measure to gap between the bottom of the outside “E” strings and the top of the pole piece on the bass side and one the treble side for both pick-ups. For the neck pick-up, the gap on either side should be 3/32nd” and on the bridge pick-up, the gap should be 1/16th” on either side. Gibson sets our necks up to have very little relief. Thanks for writing us, Gibson Customer Service 1-800-4GIBSON service@gibson.com • The Gibson Forums are provided for Gibson Fans to share opinions and information about all of the brands in the Gibson family. Become a Gibson Forums member today, visit http://forums.gibson.com/ • Sign up now to receive the latest news from Gibson http://www.gibson.com/emailsignup.aspx ***CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication is considered a private and proprietary exchange between Gibson Musical Instruments and its customers, and is intended for the eyes of the original recipient(s) only. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ***
  13. Don't know why you capo the first fret and then check at 15th. Dan Erlewine is full of it. I have his book too and used to use the .012 and guitars never sounded right. I measured as you said, but measurements don't mean much on Gibson set necks, Fenders you can use the spec relief measurements capo first fret and hold down last fret and measure gap at eighth fret. Anyway, I measure gap of .004 capo first and hold down 15th fret. Here is a Gibson custom shop setup link. It says to hold down top of second fret and top of 16th fret while in playing position and there should be just a hair gap between the 8th and 9th frets. To adjust neck,Gently adjust clockwise until the truss rod nut is just snug, turning in quarter turns, until the fretboard is straight and flat. When neck is straight, the low E string will run flat against the top of the frets. Then back off 1/8 of a turn counter-clockwise for slight relief. . Here is the link, and your guitar will play and feel like butter using this setup. http://archive.gibson.com/backstage/tech002printable.htm
  14. I have a 2014 LP Custom with the 490R/498T pups. I am running both at 3/64 with bass side tweaked up just a nano 64th with last fret pressed down, my action 12th fret is 3/64 high E and 5/64 low E.
  15. Brite Wires 10-46. D'Addario 10-46s are fine, you can also put the 9-46s on it for more bending with treble strings and heavy bottom bass strings.
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