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  1. I've said this in other similar threads

    but if you bought a custom shop guitar and paid the premium price

    for it, and then you find fault with it...

     

    What I think you should do is sell that guitar unmodified to someone

    who values it more than you do. Don't mod it, sell it, and use the money

    to buy what you really want.

     

    There is no reason for any Gibson guitar pickups to sound 'too bright"

    or 'too muddy" or what. Gibson pickups are accurate. The tone achieved

    by the player is a combination of many factors, beginning with the pick he

    selects, (or his bare fingers) and continuing through all the magnetics and

    electronics and output through the speakers he chose to install in the amp

    he chose to play.

     

    If you can't figure out how to find your tone with a Gibson Custom shop guitar,

    then I recommend you sell that immediately to someone who can. Then use

    the money to go on your quest. Go where they sell them...Play as many as they'll

    let you. Buy the one that comes alive in your hands. That's the only way to find

    the right guitar. Because with Gibsons, it doesn't matter if it's a custom shop

    guitar or an SG faded special... One will be a clunker, and one will be gold.

     

    And there's really no way to know, until you play it. Play a lot of them, and one will

    emerge as THE ONE. It might surprise you, and be of much more humble origins.

    But still a Gibson. It really doesn't matter if a guitar was made in the custom shop,

    if it doesn't come alive in your hands when you play it.

     

    Players like me regard the Custom Shop as a con game.

    All Gibsons are excellent. Custom Shop makes instruments for guys that can afford to

    pay extra for the same thing the rest of us already have. *shrugs

    You don't have to believe me. Just go on the personal quest that I recommend, and make

    up your own mind.

     

    But before you do, unload the Custom Shop guitar that doesn't please you.

    Unload it without devaluing it by ill considered modifications. Somewhere there is a player who

    would respect that instrument much more than you do. Find that person, and get their money,

    and turn over the Gibson, and let it all go. Then begin your quest in person. I predict that you'll

    have a lot of fun in the search, and you'll end up with something that makes your music

    soar like an eagle.

     

     

    Oh make no mistake I found the right guitar.

    It just has the wrong pickups in it.

  2. I didn’t know some RI came with BB. Mine has CustomBuckers which I really like. I also like Bare Knuckle’s the Mule/Riff Raff or the Mule/Black Dog Neck/Bridge combos. Personally, I wouldn’t swap any of the other electronics, just the pickups. Furthermore, for a custom shop guitar, I would go all out with the pickups and either get the 57 Classic/classic+ or custombucker, if he can find a used pair, or either one of aforementioned Bare Knuckes combos. Though, I’d probably lean the BK route.

     

    Yes I think your right, its the custombuckers I dislike, the burstbuckers I despise.

    Thanks for that clarification

  3. So what would happen if the OP does change it out for himself and keeps the original stuff in a box somewhere if the guitar will sound better after the alteration? It is his guitar and if he is planning on keeping it what difference does it make? I am thinking of putting an upgraded pre wired set of emerson pot harness in mine with different caps. I do not see the big deal if the OP is going to keep the guitar.

     

     

    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. I buy a guitar because I know what it it sounds like, will sound like, or can sound like.

    I'm able to do that and it has worked every time.

    I have a custom shop with burstbuckers that I could tell the guitar sounded good and the pickups were not to my liking.

    Stuck in a set of WCR's and people keep complimenting that guitar.

     

    I know someone that worked on the Sandy burst pickups. He said they were ****.

    Not one burst was alike and not one custom shop is either.

  5. Sorry, when I said they sound very similar, I meant basically the same. I have the Antiquities in a Gibson '17 LP Tribute and the Seth Lovers in a Epiphone LP Black Beauty. So they are completely different guitars. That being the case, they each sound a little different (like all guitars) but the overall character of the pickups is the same. Chime-like, piano-like, harmonics that, to me, are very nice. Per the SD website the Antiquities are slightly hotter but, if I didn't know that, I don't think I could tell.

     

     

    Got it.

  6. I'll second that.

     

    I also have a set of SD Seth Lovers that are very good, very similar to the Antiquities. I also think both of those compare favorably to Custombuckers. Which they should because they are all underwound, unpotted PAFs.

     

    Curious Ive had many Seth Lovers. What is the difference that you hear between these and Antiquities. Always wanted a set, never got around to it.

  7. FWIF, 57 Classics are great pickups. I have a set in my LP Custom 68 RI. Never tried out BBs before, but IMO, if you can't get the 57 Classics to sound good to your ears, there might be something wrong with your ears, haha! Just messing around. It all depends on what the player wants to do with their guitar to sound the way it should to their ears. I may not always agree with what they may or may not want to do, but it is not my guitar. Best regards!

     

     

    Well anything I have ever done to my guitars to adjust to my ears, the comments have been. How do you get that sound? I have the same guitar and it doesnt sound like that.

  8. It's your guitar and you can do what you want. Personally, I wouldn't. I'd play with the volume and tone controls on the guitar and on the amp and see about dialing in the right sound, particularly since you've said that they all sound the same.

     

    In any case, keep the original stuff just in case you want to sell it some day.

     

     

    Yup

    thx MT

  9. As to what I would recommend it all depends on what music you wish to play.

    Innards are easy enough. I have regular CTS 500k audio-taper pots and regular .022mF PIO caps wired-up '50s style in all my Les Pauls. It's simply how I like them.

     

    Pickups? For British Blues Boom stuff my preference is for regular Gibson '57 Classics. For songs which needs more oopmh I actually like the oft-derided 496R + 500T ceramic pairing.

    I also have a matched set of the highly regarded Seymour Duncan Antiquities in one LP which are great once dialled-in but there's a very narrow window between them being absolutely 'On Song' and completely 'Off Colour'. But, then again, it could just be me. Perhaps I just need more practice with them.

     

    If you don't particularly like the BBs in your Historic you should check out (if you have not already done so) the 57 Classics.

    I've heard many Boutique PAF clones but to my ear the 57s still sound closer to what I think of as the archetypal Les Paul / PAF sound.

     

    Good luck and keep us informed of how you go.

     

    Pip.

     

    Thanks Pip

    I think thats actually an great idea.

    Back in the day I remember playing an LP some guy had and couldnt believe how the pickups sounded

    I asked the guy and he said they were 57 classics

    that sounded to me much more to a paf than any bbs Ive heard

    Thx

  10. But at the same time I do laugh at myself.

    Because truly I sound the same through every guitar lmao.

    Its my ear that chooses what I pleasure.

     

    So with that in mind, and your swapping out..............

     

    What pickups?

    and

    What harnesses, has anyone had excellent experiences with.

  11. I can see the point of the originality and would have to agree. Iknow guys that if there are

    any disturbed solder joints, they dont want anything to do with it. They want an untouched all original guitar I get it.

    These days I have been going for guitars thats are keepers. slowly but surely. So Im not worried about the ones that I have swapped out.

    Although I keep them, I dont ever plan on selling the guitar.

     

    I supposed I have an oversensitive ear. I have sat in my studio with some colleagues and I tried to remove out the frequencies

    that I didnt like in the burst buckers. When I did the track sounded great.

     

    This is a personal preference.

    So ask yourself.

    How much is your guitar worth?

    Are you keeping it?

    Will you swap out the electronics and or pickups?

    To each their own.

    I have a historic with a boutique set of pafs. This guitar has never sounded this good ever.

    I would never take out this set of pickups in this guitar. It sounds magical.

    I have had close friends trying to convince me, dont change the pups.

    They are voiced for that guitar, and you should never change them.

     

    Then I let them hear in my recording what I hear.

    There response?

    I get it.

  12. How can a Historic, more accurately historically accurater than ever before, as they get every single year since they started doing them, not sound like a 58? The actual guitars that these are supposed to be so incredibly accurate reproductions of weren't too bright, at least, not the ones I played.

     

    rct

     

     

    This one is. clearly. I have played 3 real 59's.

    I know what I want. Its not that. They have a really fizzy top end that does not sound like the originals in this particular guitar as well as another Historic I own.

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