justtryme
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I didn’t know some RI came with BB. Mine has CustomBuckers which I really like. I also like Bare Knuckle’s the Mule/Riff Raff or the Mule/Black Dog Neck/Bridge combos. Personally, I wouldn’t swap any of the other electronics, just the pickups. Furthermore, for a custom shop guitar, I would go all out with the pickups and either get the 57 Classic/classic+ or custombucker, if he can find a used pair, or either one of aforementioned Bare Knuckes combos. Though, I’d probably lean the BK route.
Yes I think your right, its the custombuckers I dislike, the burstbuckers I despise.
Thanks for that clarification
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So what would happen if the OP does change it out for himself and keeps the original stuff in a box somewhere if the guitar will sound better after the alteration? It is his guitar and if he is planning on keeping it what difference does it make? I am thinking of putting an upgraded pre wired set of emerson pot harness in mine with different caps. I do not see the big deal if the OP is going to keep the guitar.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I buy a guitar because I know what it it sounds like, will sound like, or can sound like.
I'm able to do that and it has worked every time.
I have a custom shop with burstbuckers that I could tell the guitar sounded good and the pickups were not to my liking.
Stuck in a set of WCR's and people keep complimenting that guitar.
I know someone that worked on the Sandy burst pickups. He said they were ****.
Not one burst was alike and not one custom shop is either.
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Sorry, when I said they sound very similar, I meant basically the same. I have the Antiquities in a Gibson '17 LP Tribute and the Seth Lovers in a Epiphone LP Black Beauty. So they are completely different guitars. That being the case, they each sound a little different (like all guitars) but the overall character of the pickups is the same. Chime-like, piano-like, harmonics that, to me, are very nice. Per the SD website the Antiquities are slightly hotter but, if I didn't know that, I don't think I could tell.
Got it.
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I'll second that.
I also have a set of SD Seth Lovers that are very good, very similar to the Antiquities. I also think both of those compare favorably to Custombuckers. Which they should because they are all underwound, unpotted PAFs.
Curious Ive had many Seth Lovers. What is the difference that you hear between these and Antiquities. Always wanted a set, never got around to it.
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FWIF, 57 Classics are great pickups. I have a set in my LP Custom 68 RI. Never tried out BBs before, but IMO, if you can't get the 57 Classics to sound good to your ears, there might be something wrong with your ears, haha! Just messing around. It all depends on what the player wants to do with their guitar to sound the way it should to their ears. I may not always agree with what they may or may not want to do, but it is not my guitar. Best regards!
Well anything I have ever done to my guitars to adjust to my ears, the comments have been. How do you get that sound? I have the same guitar and it doesnt sound like that.
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It's your guitar and you can do what you want. Personally, I wouldn't. I'd play with the volume and tone controls on the guitar and on the amp and see about dialing in the right sound, particularly since you've said that they all sound the same.
In any case, keep the original stuff just in case you want to sell it some day.
Yup
thx MT
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well we ALL do.. so nothing of a mystery there. We're all trying to achieve the sound that's in our head.. {As long as I can keep those voices quiet long enough... :unsure: }
Lol
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As to what I would recommend it all depends on what music you wish to play.
Innards are easy enough. I have regular CTS 500k audio-taper pots and regular .022mF PIO caps wired-up '50s style in all my Les Pauls. It's simply how I like them.
Pickups? For British Blues Boom stuff my preference is for regular Gibson '57 Classics. For songs which needs more oopmh I actually like the oft-derided 496R + 500T ceramic pairing.
I also have a matched set of the highly regarded Seymour Duncan Antiquities in one LP which are great once dialled-in but there's a very narrow window between them being absolutely 'On Song' and completely 'Off Colour'. But, then again, it could just be me. Perhaps I just need more practice with them.
If you don't particularly like the BBs in your Historic you should check out (if you have not already done so) the 57 Classics.
I've heard many Boutique PAF clones but to my ear the 57s still sound closer to what I think of as the archetypal Les Paul / PAF sound.
Good luck and keep us informed of how you go.
Pip.
Thanks Pip
I think thats actually an great idea.
Back in the day I remember playing an LP some guy had and couldnt believe how the pickups sounded
I asked the guy and he said they were 57 classics
that sounded to me much more to a paf than any bbs Ive heard
Thx
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But at the same time I do laugh at myself.
Because truly I sound the same through every guitar lmao.
Its my ear that chooses what I pleasure.
So with that in mind, and your swapping out..............
What pickups?
and
What harnesses, has anyone had excellent experiences with.
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I can see the point of the originality and would have to agree. Iknow guys that if there are
any disturbed solder joints, they dont want anything to do with it. They want an untouched all original guitar I get it.
These days I have been going for guitars thats are keepers. slowly but surely. So Im not worried about the ones that I have swapped out.
Although I keep them, I dont ever plan on selling the guitar.
I supposed I have an oversensitive ear. I have sat in my studio with some colleagues and I tried to remove out the frequencies
that I didnt like in the burst buckers. When I did the track sounded great.
This is a personal preference.
So ask yourself.
How much is your guitar worth?
Are you keeping it?
Will you swap out the electronics and or pickups?
To each their own.
I have a historic with a boutique set of pafs. This guitar has never sounded this good ever.
I would never take out this set of pickups in this guitar. It sounds magical.
I have had close friends trying to convince me, dont change the pups.
They are voiced for that guitar, and you should never change them.
Then I let them hear in my recording what I hear.
There response?
I get it.
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How can a Historic, more accurately historically accurater than ever before, as they get every single year since they started doing them, not sound like a 58? The actual guitars that these are supposed to be so incredibly accurate reproductions of weren't too bright, at least, not the ones I played.
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This one is. clearly. I have played 3 real 59's.
I know what I want. Its not that. They have a really fizzy top end that does not sound like the originals in this particular guitar as well as another Historic I own.
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You're free to do what you like, but if I were spending that much for a guitar, it better not need new pickups or anything.
Hard no.
Oh this ones needs new pickups
burstbuckers are way too bright in this guitar
and it will sound better with a darker set that I have
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To upgrade or not to upgrade on your custom shop guitars.
Chime in.
JTM
Change Electronics on Historics or no?
in Gibson USA
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Oh make no mistake I found the right guitar.
It just has the wrong pickups in it.