blindboygrunt Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I'm in love with this guitar , what a burst , what a thump it has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trvlr Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 that bridge and truss rod cover sure look Gibson, but a rather different looking burst. I wanna say J-200, but not sure. For a minute I thought we were listening to Flatbaroque on the vocals.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchabalk Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 pretty sure it's an old SJ-200. It's missing the pick-guard but it has moustache bridge. I'm always partial to that headstock design too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kebob Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 yep -- old J-200 without the pickguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 gorgeous colour . would that have to be a custom order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby b Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 gorgeous colour . would that have to be a custom order? Maybe? Pickguard could have been removed if not ordered that way. The headstock inlay and the big block inlays on the f/b are not 'Standard' J200 appointments though. I see that the new 'Western Classic Prewar 200' has the same appointments ( http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Acoustic-Instruments/Super-Jumbo/Gibson-Acoustic/Western-Classic-Prewar-200/Features.aspx ), was there an early J200 or custom that had the same ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salfromchatham Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Beautiful song. Beautiful recording. The words are real sad... He wakes up the morning of 9-11 to an Empty Sky. I remember that morning - the sky, the clarity, etc. - his wife (in the song, that is) didn't come home. Is he tuned down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livemusic Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Is he tuned down? I don't know what he's doing, would like to know. I made it kind of work by putting a "Drop D" capo on fret 5 and tuning the big 6th string UP to F. (The song is in key of F.) And then playing chord shapes of C, Dm and Bb. Those are the chords. But... he's not chording like that. So, I wonder if it is Open F tuning or some other alt-tuning. EDIT: No, he's not in open F tuning, as he has a capo on fret 5. Too early for my brain to work today. Weird, his first chord (F) is played in a (standard tuning) C-chord shape beginning at the 8th fret (3 above the capo), then he comes down to the capo to what looks like an Am or Am7 shape for the minor. I've tried several alt-tunings, can't figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby b Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I don't know what he's doing, would like to know. I made it kind of work by putting a "Drop D" capo on fret 5 and tuning the big 6th string UP to F. (The song is in key of F.) And then playing chord shapes of C, Dm and Bb. Those are the chords. But... he's not chording like that. So, I wonder if it is Open F tuning or some other alt-tuning. EDIT: No, he's not in open F tuning, as he has a capo on fret 5. Too early for my brain to work today. Weird, his first chord (F) is played in a (standard tuning) C-chord shape beginning at the 8th fret (3 above the capo), then he comes down to the capo to what looks like an Am or Am7 shape for the minor. I've tried several alt-tunings, can't figure it out. His capo is on the 3rd fret not the 5th. The way that I see/hear it is..... Drop the open low E to D, leave the rest in standard tuning. Then capo 3rd fret. Play C shape , rooted at 8th fret, fretting would be ( 0 5 4 0 3 0 ) with the capo now being Zero or Open, drop pinkie to alternate on b string 5 to 3 ** pretty sure he is alternating 5th string 8th fret to open ( or 5 to 0 with capo ) at the same time** , Em shape @ ( 0 5 5 0 3 0 ) same pinkie alternating on b string 5 to 3 and finally C shape ( first position C shape with Capo at 3rd fret ) When I play along like this it sounds bang on. Worked this out during my first 1/2 cup of coffee today... after the 2nd 1/2 cup I may discover I am wrong but I think I've got the gist of it. HTH's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livemusic Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 His capo is on the 3rd fret not the 5th. The way that I see/hear it is..... Drop the open low E to D, leave the rest in standard tuning. Then capo 3rd fret. Play C shape , rooted at 8th fret, fretting would be ( 0 5 4 0 3 0 ) with the capo now being Zero or Open, drop pinkie to alternate on b string 5 to 3 ** pretty sure he is alternating 5th string 8th fret to open ( or 5 to 0 with capo ) at the same time** , Em shape @ ( 0 5 5 0 3 0 ) same pinkie alternating on b string 5 to 3 and finally C shape ( first position C shape with Capo at 3rd fret ) When I play along like this it sounds bang on. Worked this out during my first 1/2 cup of coffee today... after the 2nd 1/2 cup I may discover I am wrong but I think I've got the gist of it. HTH's Well, heck, I can't see. You're right, capo'd at 3, not 5. I think the guitar's fret marker at fret 1 threw me off, I'm used to the first one being at fret 3. I think you are basically correct. I didn't understand what you mean about the pinkie, though. And I think when he plays the Em shape, 033000, relative to the capo, he is alternating that with 033300. Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby b Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Well, heck, I can't see. You're right, capo'd at 3, not 5. I think the guitar's fret marker at fret 1 threw me off, I'm used to the first one being at fret 3. I think you are basically correct. I didn't understand what you mean about the pinkie, though. And I think when he plays the Em shape, 033000, relative to the capo, he is alternating that with 033300. Well done! Alternating pinkie ( high note ) is just going from 0 5 4 0 3 0 to 0 5 4 0 5 0 using the pinkie to alternate btwn. 3 (1st finger) and 5 ( pinkie) on the B string I think you mean Em shape relative to the capo 0 5 5 0 0 0 alternating that with 0 5 5 5 0 0 ...... FWIW ..... the Em in the first position works too. You also can play it simply using the 1st position shapes D / Em / C , still tuned the same with the dropped E string and with capo on the 3rd fret. This works but is not voiced the same as Bruce's version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Dave Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Looks like this J-200 Probably an early model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 its more the colour i fell in love with , beautiful colour burst , have seen it on hummingbirds but thts the first j200 style i've seen with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Dave Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 its more the colour i fell in love with , beautiful colour burst , have seen it on hummingbirds but thts the first j200 style i've seen with it I know what you mean BBG, it looks awesome. Really nice aged burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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