Value of this LP?

[CyanShayan]

So just a Quick Q. My dads friend has a Les Paul Standard in Goldtop made in 1983 in mint condition with all the stock hardware that has been signed by Slash at a GnR gig in 1992. He keeps this model in a glass frame in his studio and cleans it every few weeks so its barely got a scratch on it so considering all this, how much is this thing worth. Im guessin the Slash signature will have a huge effect on the price as well as the age and the fact that its in absolutly perfect condition and has probably only been played a few hours in the past 20 years so how much do you guys think this is worth?

[AXE®]

Without pictures it's a guess. $1,200 to $1,500. The signature would only matter to a fan. And without proper documentation I could have signed the guitar.

[CyanShayan]

Without pictures it's a guess. $1,200 to $1,500. The signature would only matter to a fan. And without proper documentation I could have signed the guitar.

 

What do you mean by documentation?

[moparguy]

Certificate of authenticity for the Slash signature

[moparguy]

A hardwriting professional can verify the signature for you and probably issue a certificate of authenticity. It should be done by a reputable company if you do it. As far as the guitars value, check ebay " sold " auctions, that will get you in the ball park. If your friend is gonna sell it, he should sell it privately, a guitar dealer will only give you wholesale value

[CyanShayan]

Certificate of authenticity for the Slash signature

 

Well there isnt a Certificate cause he went up to Slash after the gig where him, axl, duff etc were signing autographs and he got his LP signed

[AXE®]

Paying for a handwriting specialist to authenticate Slash's signature would eat up any decent profit margin.

 

Also the 1983 was the first year of weight relieving.

[CyanShayan]

A hardwriting professional can verify the signature for you and probably issue a certificate of authenticity. It should be done by a reputable company if you do it. As far as the guitars value, check ebay " sold " auctions, that will get you in the ball park. If your friend is gonna sell it, he should sell it privately, a guitar dealer will only give you wholesale value

 

Thanks for the idea :-) but will the signature make a difference in the price?

[CyanShayan]

Paying for a handwriting specialist to authenticate Slash's signature would eat up any decent profit margin.

 

Also the 1983 was the first year of weight relieving.

 

What does the weight relieving feature have to do with anything?

[AXE®]

Thanks for the idea :-) but will the signature make a difference in the price?

 

Only to a fan. Otherwise not really.

 

What does the weight relieving feature have to do with anything?

 

Weight relieving is undesirable to some. Especially Norlin enthusiasts.

[Guest Farnsbarns]

Vintage Les Pauls fall into era categories, rightly or wrongly, and this has a huge impact on value...

 

52-56 (pre humbucker)

 

57-60 (early humbucker. The most valuable of all with 58-60 (bursts) being the most valuable)

 

68-70 (reintroduction norlin)

 

71-83 (pre weight relief norlin)

 

83-86 (weight relieved norlin)

 

86-now

 

These are fairly fuzzy categories that can be broken down further and argued about indefinitely and may or may not be valid.

 

Perhaps the least desirable are 83-86, these instruments, today, in good nick, are worth about the equivalent of a similar, brand new example. The slash signature ads little value and I agree that authentication is likely to cost more than any added value. To any non fan it detracts from the value. Slash has signed a lot of guitars, both in the factory and fan's guitars. I'm afraid this guitar isn't hugely valuable, at best you might get enough to by a new reissue, at worst, not enough to buy a new standard.

[CyanShayan]

Vintage Les Pauls fall into era categories, rightly or wrongly, and this has a huge impact on value...

 

52-56 (pre humbucker)

 

57-60 (early humbucker. The most valuable of all with 58-60 (bursts) being the most valuable)

 

68-70 (reintroduction norlin)

 

71-83 (pre weight relief norlin)

 

83-86 (weight relieved norlin)

 

86-now

 

These are fairly fuzzy categories that can be broken down further and argued about indefinitely and may or may not be valid.

 

Perhaps the least desirable are 83-86, these instruments, today, in good nick, are worth about the equivalent of a similar, brand new example. The slash signature ads little value and I agree that authentication is likely to cost more than any added value. To any non fan it detracts from the value. Slash has signed a lot of guitars, both in the factory and fan's guitars. I'm afraid this guitar isn't hugely valuable, at best you might get enough to by a new reissue, at worst, not enough to buy a new standard.

 

Well that was a huge dissapointment. I thought it would be worth loads but... *sigh* oh well. Wait.. Will the price go up if Slash dies? Or will the price go up if we wait another 20 years?

[rct]

Without pictures it's a guess. $1,200 to $1,500. The signature would only matter to a fan. And without proper documentation I could have signed the guitar.

 

If AXE signed it I'll give you $1,550.

 

rct

[AXE®]

That's a good price for my Signature.

 

I'd go for it.

[pippy]

Paying for a handwriting specialist to authenticate Slash's signature would eat up any decent profit margin.

 

Also the 1983 was the first year of weight relieving.

LOLZ!

 

Wait.. Will the price go up if Slash dies?

If anyone remembers who he was, and if any of his fans are also still alive and interested in buying his signature then the answer is a resounding maybe.

 

At current life-expectancy levels you might only have another 40 more years to wait. Possibly even less!

 

P.

[Versatile]

Slash is over-rated... :blink:

 

V

 

[AXE®]

I am not.

[CyanShayan]

LOLZ!

 

 

If anyone remembers who he was, and if any of his fans are also still alive and interested in buying his signature then the answer is a resounding maybe.

 

At current life-expectancy levels you might only have another 40 more years to wait. Possibly even less!

 

P.

 

Considering he used drugs, was an alcholic, smoked and was legally dead for (i think it was) 8 mins, i dont think hes got that long left to be honest

[CyanShayan]

Slash is over-rated... :blink:

 

V

 

 

-_- slash is overrated? No offence but go die in a hole.. (NO OFFENCE)

[pippy]

Considering he used drugs, was an alcholic, smoked and was legally dead for (i think it was) 8 mins, i dont think hes got that long left to be honest

Keith Richards will be 70 in December.....

 

 

P.

[CyanShayan]

Keith Richard will be 70 in December.....

 

 

P.

 

Touche...

[Bryan Sutherland]

Slash is over-rated... :blink:

 

V

 

 

Over-rated in what way? The fact that he has sold millions of records in not only two iconic rock bands (GnR and Velvet Revolver), but sold a very respectable amount of solo records?

[Bryan Sutherland]

Considering he used drugs, was an alcholic, smoked and was legally dead for (i think it was) 8 mins, i dont think hes got that long left to be honest

 

By that logic, basically every famous guitar player (and probably musician for that matter) to come out of the '60's, '70's, '80's, and '90's is due to croak at any minute. Kind of a morbid thing to post dude...

[Versatile]

Over-rated in what way? The fact that he has sold millions of records in not only two iconic rock bands (GnR and Velvet Revolver), but sold a very respectable amount of solo records?

 

Never seen him play a semi... <_<

 

V

 

[pippy]

 

All kidding aside for the minute...

 

Slash - and his abilities - is a very interesting case.

 

Leaving aside his Iconic status in the eyes of 'The Converted' I can understand how he can be both Overrated and Underrated depending on one's views, experience and musical tastes.

 

In the first instance I would say he is definitely overrated by many whose (how can I put this politely?) understanding and appreciation of the work of other guitarists - especially those others whose genre is outwith the ken of those doing the rating - is rather limited.

 

On the other hand, however, there is also little doubt he is vastly underrated by a certain type of person who will feel able to make assumptions and judgements regarding Slash's musical prowess without first having heard much of his playing.

 

As this post is in the Les Paul section it's worth mentioning that Les Paul, himself, became a good friend to the man.

 

And if he was good enough for Les....

 

 

P.

 

EDIT : Just for those who happen to like Slash, Les Paul and Les Pauls...

 

In the auction of the belongings of LP there were two items which were given to Les by Slash;

 

Firstly, a HCSB LP Standard with a personal dedication to Les and the ubiquitous 'Hat'n'Crossbones' signature, all of which was drawn on the lower bout of the guitar.

 

Secondly a 'Slash' hat given to Les by Slash with a accompanying handwritten note which read;

"Dearest Les; Here is the top-hat I said I'd send. Hope you like it. Anyway, let's keep in touch and do some more shows! With all my love, Sincerely, Slash."

 

If anyone misbehaves I'll feel duty-bound to post three snaps as evidence...