DuaLeaD Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 So I'm still in the market for a Gibson Custom Shop Historic 1960 Reissue. I want one with a classic fiery burst though the pictures I have seen on the Gibson Custom Facebook page seem to be hit 'n miss for "Washed Cherry". I'm looking for a burst with that nice deep red on the outside, the yellow Sun on the inside of the burst, and maximum number of color gradiant in between. So far, "Heritage Cherry Sunburst" is looking like the best candidate. However, my dealer informs me that the Custom Shop no longer accepts custom orders. I hear this is because they are trying to work through their backlog and hopefully it will be temporary. I suppose I can settle for "Washed Cherry" (or is settling bad on a guitar this expensive?) if I can get the 1960 in GLOSS, but when I called Gibson's customer service line, they said they can only offer VOS on the 1960s but do offer choice of VOS and GLOSS on the 1959s. Does this make any sense? I'm getting sick of the hard push for VOS. Are they just trying to save cost/time by omitting a step in the finishing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Thing is, being made from wood, all LPs are different. I've always wondered about this when it comes to ordering a custom guitar, what if you just don't get on with it? At least if you decide to accept a finish which isn't exactly what you want you end up with the piece of wood that suits you best. I've recently been through this. I don't like iced tea bursts as much as honey bursts but I played a guitar in iced tea and that was it, instantly I knew I had to have it, finish sminish. It's not like I hate iced tea but if I was dead set on honey burst I wouldn't have even played it. It had my name on it but not my finish. Maybe when I have money to burn one day it'll go to historic makeovers and come back looking like I think it looks in my head, as I play it. It's like looking in the mirror and remembering I don't look 25 anymore, despite how I feel. I say forget the finish and play every LP you see until you find "the one" and buy it regardless of finish or model. You'll be much happier in the long run (and it doesn't take long before you realise what a cool dude you are buying a guitar which plays and sounds great but doesn't look how you thought it should ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHTom Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Well said. I've often though the buying process should be done in 3 steps..........first, wear a blindfold and don't plug the guitar in......if you find one that you love how it plays, then plug it in and see how it sounds........if it sounds good, then take the blindfold off and see if you can live with the finish. NHTom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabberwocky Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 You can always send your Gibson to one of the companies which specialises in refinishing. RS Guitarworks and Historic Makeovers come to mind and have your exact colour finished on your Les Paul. Gibson Custom Shop will charge full MSRP on a custom job so if you have kind of coin, it will amount to the same expenditure. HM uses vintage "correct" nitro with little plasticiser in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StijnV Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So I'm still in the market for a Gibson Custom Shop Historic 1960 Reissue. I want one with a classic fiery burst though the pictures I have seen on the Gibson Custom Facebook page seem to be hit 'n miss for "Washed Cherry". I'm looking for a burst with that nice deep red on the outside, the yellow Sun on the inside of the burst, and maximum number of color gradiant in between. So far, "Heritage Cherry Sunburst" is looking like the best candidate. However, my dealer informs me that the Custom Shop no longer accepts custom orders. I hear this is because they are trying to work through their backlog and hopefully it will be temporary. I suppose I can settle for "Washed Cherry" (or is settling bad on a guitar this expensive?) if I can get the 1960 in GLOSS, but when I called Gibson's customer service line, they said they can only offer VOS on the 1960s but do offer choice of VOS and GLOSS on the 1959s. Does this make any sense? I'm getting sick of the hard push for VOS. Are they just trying to save cost/time by omitting a step in the finishing? The VOS process may seem to be more labor intensive, but it is actually more work to give a guitar our shiny gloss finish. And that is why the gloss version has been priced higher than the VOS. Kind regards, Stijn Vergeest Gibson Europe Customer Service 00800-4GIBSON1 00800-44427661 www.gibson.com service.europe@gibson.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl51 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Stijn, Are you at liberty to explain to us why it seems at least here in the USA there are a heck of alot of different models of Gibsons especially the Les Paul model coming out into the marketplace these days varying with the dealer for example?........ I just remember going into a guitar shop in the early 1960's and seeing a Les Paul standard in cherry sunburst or a Les Paul custom in ebony finish and that was that...........great guitars to this day regardless! jim in Maine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR9 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Stijn, Are you at liberty to explain to us why it seems at least here in the USA there are a heck of alot of different models of Gibsons especially the Les Paul model coming out into the marketplace these days varying with the dealer for example?........ I just remember going into a guitar shop in the early 1960's and seeing a Les Paul standard in cherry sunburst or a Les Paul custom in ebony finish and that was that...........great guitars to this day regardless! jim in Maine Hi Jim, A lot of what you are seeing is special orders that are specific to dealers of the chain stores. Making a Les Paul slightly different than another store. I remember seeing them in the stores in the 60's too and thinking it sure would be nice to own one. The only close dealer to me in the 60's was a Fender dealer though...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 So I'm still in the market for a Gibson Custom Shop Historic 1960 Reissue. I want one with a classic fiery burst though the pictures I have seen on the Gibson Custom Facebook page seem to be hit 'n miss for "Washed Cherry". I'm looking for a burst with that nice deep red on the outside, the yellow Sun on the inside of the burst, and maximum number of color gradiant in between. So far, "Heritage Cherry Sunburst" is looking like the best candidate. However, my dealer informs me that the Custom Shop no longer accepts custom orders. I hear this is because they are trying to work through their backlog and hopefully it will be temporary. I suppose I can settle for "Washed Cherry" (or is settling bad on a guitar this expensive?) if I can get the 1960 in GLOSS, but when I called Gibson's customer service line, they said they can only offer VOS on the 1960s but do offer choice of VOS and GLOSS on the 1959s. Does this make any sense? I'm getting sick of the hard push for VOS. Are they just trying to save cost/time by omitting a step in the finishing? The VOS process may seem to be more labor intensive, but it is actually more work to give a guitar our shiny gloss finish. And that is why the gloss version has been priced higher than the VOS. Kind regards, Stijn Vergeest Gibson Europe Customer Service 00800-4GIBSON1 00800-44427661 www.gibson.com service.europe@gibson.com Sorry, Stijn, but as I have understood DuaLeaD's lines, exactly that's what he wanted to say since he wouldn't want to have it omitted on the 1960 Historic, would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Thing is, being made from wood, all LPs are different. I've always wondered about this when it comes to ordering a custom guitar, what if you just don't get on with it? At least if you decide to accept a finish which isn't exactly what you want you end up with the piece of wood that suits you best. I've recently been through this. I don't like iced tea bursts as much as honey bursts but I played a guitar in iced tea and that was it, instantly I knew I had to have it, finish sminish. It's not like I hate iced tea but if I was dead set on honey burst I wouldn't have even played it. It had my name on it but not my finish. Maybe when I have money to burn one day it'll go to historic makeovers and come back looking like I think it looks in my head, as I play it. It's like looking in the mirror and remembering I don't look 25 anymore, despite how I feel. I say forget the finish and play every LP you see until you find "the one" and buy it regardless of finish or model. You'll be much happier in the long run (and it doesn't take long before you realise what a cool dude you are buying a guitar which plays and sounds great but doesn't look how you thought it should ;) ) +++1 Well said. I've often though the buying process should be done in 3 steps..........first, wear a blindfold and don't plug the guitar in......if you find one that you love how it plays, then plug it in and see how it sounds........if it sounds good, then take the blindfold off and see if you can live with the finish. NHTom +++1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPDEN Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 It just seems to me the trend is that there is a lesser amount of Historic models, but higher prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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