bluesguitar65 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 What do you all think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC2tuOQvQ3g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 If he's bitter about Metallica, I want to hear what he has to say about Beavis and Butthead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Desperate need for publicity, a lot of people do it, you type anything Metallica in your YouTube description and you get traffic. Fact is thrash metal leads for the most part follow a certain style which is mostly shredding. Kirk does however sounds good when he slows down and plays melodically. This guy comes across as a classless sore loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 This guy is like that little grape in the bunch that never got to be a large grape, small and bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It's sad to hear such words from someone who finished at Berkley College of Music, and played in Whitesnake, Night Ranger and Dokken. I assumed such a person wouldn't need a penile extender. I was wrong, again. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I remember him from Winger, them crayzee hair filled days of whippin yer guitar around. Winger, Slaughter, <shudder> Kiss. Whata show. Winger was first and true to form not an inhale happened without one of them slinging the guitar around. And when Kip did it it was scarey that guy is so big. I thought Reb was a pro, decent rack of doom sound, great player, and good trickster. Slaughter was up next, they were excellent, very young and sorta newish. Mrs liked them guys, so after Slaughter we decided to go around back outside and hang with them guys. It was our one and only chance we've ever had to see K155, and we passed. Good times. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Reb is an awesome player. But he was in Winger. Kirk is in Metallica. Says it all right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I compare this to Mick Mars (or Bob Kulick, even) putting down Ace Frehley. In the end, how many players did Reb or Mick or Bob create? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesguitar65 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Here's a solo comparison. Kirk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk9Um1tDAxM Reb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE-1S5KJnkc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Reb might be technically better and have more tricks, what have you, but Kirk's solo did more for me. I honestly don't get the Kirk hatred. And I would much rather listen to Metallica than Winger! Plus, I've never heard of Kirk putting down another player or being an asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky4 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm with Reb...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I don't know who either of these guys are, and it seems from the interview, I haven't missed much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'd like to see these ladies in a ring. That would be more entertaining than watching them play...they're both yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 It was rather an amusing interview. 'Kettle Calling the Pot Black', though. He might really believe he is a 'better' guitarist than Hammett and Hammett might believe the opposite to be true. Does it matter a rat's fart either way? As mentioned by Kaleb, even those players generally unfamiliar with the genre - such as myself - will have heard of, and have heard the playing of, Hammett but I, for one, had no idea who Reb Beach was before today. For folks of my generation who were around when Whitesnake formed, Whitesnake meant Bernie Marsden and Mick Moody - both of whom I'd rate higher than Reb Beach. FWIW Hammett's approach is obviously more 'traditional' whereas from that one clip it would appear that Beach uses (with great skill) more by way of technical gimmikry - but even Jimi used gimmicks so I've no problem with that. I enjoyed both clips equally. Having said that I could also live quite happily without hearing either solo again. But then again, I'm an Old Fart...... P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Apparently he's still mad that in an old Metallic video, someone is shown throwing darts at a Winger poster. I guess I can see how he might take that personally. I have no opinion as to who is a better player. I can say I've never been a huge fan of Kirk's tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 My evil self tells me, if I was Kirk, I would now start to praise Reb. What would be a better revenge than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Reb is an awesome player. But he was in Winger. Kirk is in Metallica. Says it all right there. It does, The funny thing is some of the comments in YouTube, there are Winger fans bashing Metallica! Lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaleb Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Plus, Kirk can write (or help write) better, more memorable songs (in my opinion, at least).... Reb is a great player, but I doubt he could make (or help make) a record like Master Of Puppets. I mean, that record (well, any of Metallica's efforts up through the Black Album) are genre defining records. For some people, when they think of heavy metal, the first band that comes to mind is Metallica. I honestly think it's bitterness. Winger did not and still doesn't get the respect and credence that Metallica did/does. The guitar magazines voted Kirk instead of him simply because of that (and Kirk simply has more fans). And the Winger poster dartboard in the "Nothing Else Matters" video put the icing on the cake. Mick Mars and Bob Kulick are bitter too (Mars for the same reasons as Reb, Bob cause' Ace got the gig instead of him). Musicians shouldn't be that way. One of the things I admire and like about Kirk is his nice personality (which gives a contrast to James and Lars with their anger issues and, uh, whatever Lars has...little-man syndrome?). He certainly wouldn't call Reb a crap guitar player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 ....played in Whitesnake, Night Ranger and Dokken. I assumed such a person wouldn't need a penile extender. I had to smile at that. In fact... I do remember Reb being interviewed in GP magazine, late 80s or early 90s - think it was with Bettencourt from Extreme and another very talented up-and-comer whose name I think was Richie Kotzen..?? Reb was a little overconfident I thought, reckoned he knew where he'd be in 15-20 years; raking in the royalties, a big name with a fusion band on the side. Didn't quite happen. Mustaine has also dissed Hammett big time (well he would of course) but they both missed the point IMO; Hammett fits. Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 "We will never, EVer, MAKE a VIDeo." Lars Ulrich rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 "We will never, EVer, MAKE a VIDeo." Lars Ulrich rct In all fairness they also did not know Cliff Burton was going to die. There is an apology of sorts in the back of my VHS copy of Cliff'em All which is the first video they released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Sure, a movie about Cliff was the right thing to do. He was talking about things like, well, One, for instance, commercial mainstream success all that rot. Back in the days when only Lars spoke for them. Thanks to videos, he was able to say later, with a straight face: "I made 40 million dollars last year. I care what a 50 thousand dollar a year critic says?" They are a remarkable study in upping The Man as you morph into The Man. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yet this Reb douchbag sounds more classless. If Lars made statements of this nature people would be up in arms, but because they come from somebody irrelevant it seems to be ok. I never bothered with videos too much and I grew up in the 80s, for me the novelty wore off quick. I still think the One video is great, it is not until recently that I saw the lame videos they put out in the 90s. Terrible. I blame Megadeth when it comes to Thrash Metal bands embracing MTV, they were kind of video-happy for the genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I don't have a dog in this horserace, it's just fun to watch. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awel Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I am a bit disappointed by Reb, such a great musician should not attack other players, of course Kirk does not have his skills but it is not fair. Now I have to say that obviously Kirk has lost a lot of his precision, even if I am a big Metallica fan, the tour they have made just before death magnetic, all the speed solo were sounding wrong, out of tune, not on the time, :( I think he's getting old :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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