Coil-Split on LPJ 2013 Model

[newb]

Hi,

 

If I want to coil-split one of the new Gibson Les Paul Juniors 2013 model, from what I understand I just need to change the pots to push pull DPDT ones. What spec pot do i need (250k or 500k short or long), do you know what is currently in the LPJ and where I can buy pots from?

 

Also, I'm new to modding electrics in general so what is the difference in pots? i.e. I notice gibson sell pots (but I couldn't see a push pull one) and I see many at varying prices, so what are the differences?

 

Thanks

[Greg Jacob]

I believe the LPJ has 2-conductor wiring.

 

If not, I would go 500k. Pull the existing pot to check shaft length. Get CTS pots as the Alphas have different size holes and splines.

 

I get my pots from StewMac.com, but if you are just getting a few things, the shipping might kill you. As long as the brand is CTS, it doesn't matter where you order from. A local music store probably sells single push-pull Gibson branded pots.

[cjsinla]

Hi,

 

If I want to coil-split one of the new Gibson Les Paul Juniors 2013 model, from what I understand I just need to change the pots to push pull DPDT ones. What spec pot do i need (250k or 500k short or long), do you know what is currently in the LPJ and where I can buy pots from?

 

Also, I'm new to modding electrics in general so what is the difference in pots? i.e. I notice gibson sell pots (but I couldn't see a push pull one) and I see many at varying prices, so what are the differences?

 

Thanks

 

Not sure the J stands for Junior. The regular Juniors don't have maple tops or trapezoid inlays. I still cant figure out why Gibson calls these LPJ's.

[newb]

I believe the LPJ has 2-conductor wiring.

 

If not, I would go 500k. Pull the existing pot to check shaft length. Get CTS pots as the Alphas have different size holes and splines.

 

I get my pots from StewMac.com, but if you are just getting a few things, the shipping might kill you. As long as the brand is CTS, it doesn't matter where you order from. A local music store probably sells single push-pull Gibson branded pots.

 

Thanks, I couldn't find the pots on stewMac (although Im from UK so I was just browsing and need to find a retailer here), I looked on sweetwater.com (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PPAT520/) and they sell Gibson ones, but they are like $25, why so expensive? I know nothing about pots so sorry if this is a naive question

[Bryan Sutherland]

Thanks, I couldn't find the pots on stewMac (although Im from UK so I was just browsing and need to find a retailer here), I looked on sweetwater.com (http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PPAT520/) and they sell Gibson ones, but they are like $25, why so expensive? I know nothing about pots so sorry if this is a naive question

 

No such thing as a naive question...

I would say they are so expensive because of the fancy Gibson packaging... here's a link to some push/pull pots on StewMac:

 

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Potentiometers/Alpha_Push-pull_Pots.html

[newb]

No such thing as a naive question...

I would say they are so expensive because of the fancy Gibson packaging... here's a link to some push/pull pots on StewMac:

 

http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Potentiometers/Alpha_Push-pull_Pots.html

 

Thanks for all the info, just another quick question: on most websites I've seen 250k and 500k pots, where 500k is recommended for humbuckers. However, I've also read in a few places (not officially on Gibson site) that Gibson use 300k pots in the les pauls? If so, should I be buying 300k push pull, to retain the same sound when its in humbucker mode? Also, I have not seen a single 300k pot online :s

 

Thanks

[Greg Jacob]

To correct myself, CTS does not make a push-pull and Alpha seems to resemble the Gibson-badged part. You should be able to get it for about $12.

 

Gibson uses 300k, which some people find muddy. I don't think they have push-pull 300k, but I will crack open my Gibson tonight to see what they used stock (on the push-push control). A 500k will add some brightness to the guitar that can be rolled back using the control.

 

http://www.warmoth.com/Push-Push-Pot-500k-with-DPDT-Switch-On-On-P732C58.aspx

 

Here is another option where it has the fine-knurled spline and US diameter:

http://www.mojotone.com/guitar-parts/Guitar-Potentiometers/Mojotone-500K-Audio-Taper-Push-Push-Long-Shaft-Guitar-Potentiometer

[newb]

To correct myself, CTS does not make a push-pull and Alpha seems to resemble the Gibson-badged part. You should be able to get it for about $12.

 

Gibson uses 300k, which some people find muddy. I don't think they have push-pull 300k, but I will crack open my Gibson tonight to see what they used stock (on the push-push control). A 500k will add some brightness to the guitar that can be rolled back using the control.

 

http://www.warmoth.com/Push-Push-Pot-500k-with-DPDT-Switch-On-On-P732C58.aspx

 

Here is another option where it has the fine-knurled spline and US diameter:

http://www.mojotone.com/guitar-parts/Guitar-Potentiometers/Mojotone-500K-Audio-Taper-Push-Push-Long-Shaft-Guitar-Potentiometer

 

Brilliant, If you could let me know what they used in stock that would be great :)

[Greg Jacob]

Brilliant, If you could let me know what they used in stock that would be great :)

 

On the Traditional Pro II, the push-push are 500k as is the one non-switching pot. There were no markings on the switches, but the housing looks like the Gibson branded retail part.

 

The 500k will give you less treble loss than 300k, you can use the tone knob to roll back that brightness, if desired.

[Pin]

You have probably already ordered but I would never use push - pull pots out of choice; push - push pots are much easier to use and quality these days is just as good. Axetec (English company) sell both push - pull and push - push the in long shaft and short shaft versions. You would need the long shaft pots for a Gibson Les Paul standard (short for an Epi version) but because your guitar doesn't have a maple cap you might get away with short shaft - you would need to measure them - but the fact that your guitar is Gibson I would guess long shaft will be required.

 

http://www.axetec.co.uk/guitar_parts_uk_028.htm

[badbluesplayer]

Here's the deal. The pickups should be four conductor pickups, if I'm reading the specs right. So that will allow you to "split the coils".

 

You will need to wire it like this. This is a 2012 LP Standard wiring schematic. This is how to do it like they do the Standards.

[newb]

Here's the deal. The pickups should be four conductor pickups, if I'm reading the specs right. So that will allow you to "split the coils".

 

You will need to wire it like this. This is a 2012 LP Standard wiring schematic. This is how to do it like they do the Standards.

Thanks!