zombywoof Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Making it even better is this aired about the time VP Spiro Agnew labeled Brewer and Shipley subversives and accused them of deliberately attempting to sap our national strength with songs such as these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Yep, those were weird times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 I first saw Brewer & Shipley in 1969 or 1970. They were not terribly well known yet and playing alot of college coffe houses and student unions. The place was empty - maybe 10 people or so showed up. But I immediately became a fan. I got to hang around with them a bit after the show - Nice guys as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Making it even better is this aired about the time VP Spiro Agnew labeled Brewer and Shipley subversives and accused them of deliberately attempting to sap our national strength with songs such as these. That really is too bizarre for words.... Maybe we can get Amy Grant to do "White Rabbit" as a follow-up children's song..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 While getting old is a *****, ya gotta feel sorry for those not born early enough to have been old enough to have been part of all this. Talk about what a long strange trip its been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livemusic Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Making it even better is this aired about the time VP Spiro Agnew labeled Brewer and Shipley subversives and accused them of deliberately attempting to sap our national strength with songs such as these. I have seen this discussed on a forum before. From what I remember, some people on the show were hip to smoking weed, including the guy who introduced them. Note that at 0:11 he coughs. Theory being it was a smart alec reference to drawing a toke and the usual resultant cough. There was discussion that these people on the LW show thought it was hilarious. And it was postulated (and I have no idea if true) that even LW, himself, was in on it. Makes for a good story anyway, 'cause it is certainly a most bizarre song choice for that show. Which I watched every Saturday night at 6:30 when I was a kid because we only had one t.v. and that is what ma and pa watched, so, that's why I am so well-rounded musically today, lol. (And I actually wrote a song about this, it's called "Bubbles.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I would guess that the lesson in this is....That in retrospect......"Hip" can be a bit "Hokey" as well ! They ALL 'look like stoners' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 This was 1971 I believe which, of course, was long past those years when potheads were all those long haired freaky people who need not apply so anything is possible. By the early 1970s we were already mourning what we saw as the end of of it all. But I tend to agree with the opinion that the main thing Welk heard was the "Sweet Jesus" part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 While getting old is a *****, ya gotta feel sorry for those not born early enough to have been old enough to have been part of all this. Talk about what a long strange trip its been. And it still is...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I would guess that the lesson in this is....That in retrospect......"Hip" can be a bit "Hokey" as well ! They ALL 'look like stoners' They look like, because most of them were....... I remember in college going to some anti-drug conference in NYC (sponsored by a right-wingish student government group with strong ties to federal drug enforcement). I was invited because it was shortly after I had published a survey done for a deviant behavior course documenting the amount of student drug use on campus. At one of the seminars, they actually showed that great old anti-drug film, "Reefer Madness". After the first day of meetings, I went to an after-hours discussion group in one of the delegates hotel rooms. These crew-cut, clean-cut, button down kids who had been spouting anti-drug slogans all day took a look around, locked the door and stuck a towel under it, and proceeded to light up. So anything is possible here. I never ceased to be amazed at the people who would casually light up around me. They assumed that since I had long hair, a beard, and went to an ivy league college, I was a dope smoker. Come to think of it, they were right..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 Ain't it the truth. By the early 1970s guys who used to try and beat you up because you were a long haired pinko folk singer were coming up to you all smiles trying to score dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Ain't it the truth. By the early 1970s guys who used to try and beat you up because you were a long haired pinko folk singer were coming up to you all smiles trying to score dope. I had a bizarre, uneasy friendship with a number of slightly psychotic US Army special forces sargeants (Vietnam vets and still in the reserves) back in the late 1960's, in my hometown in Mississippi. We shared a boredom with small-town Southern life, a common mistrust of authority, a love of drug-influenced rock music, plus an insatiable desire to make mischief by shooting guns and blowing things up out in the country with stolen explosives (they stole them from their unit). And the most common thread, of course, was dope. I was the long-haired hippie, and they were all on the ragged edge of sanity. It all went well until a couple of them turned on me one day, and decided I was a draft-dodging commie pinko instead of their smoking-up buddy..... But I'm still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYY2FQHFwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeterpicker Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 My guess is that the LW singers were more focused on the fact the song mentions Jesus and had no idea what it was really about. The same thing happens with Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah, which is sung in embarrassingly improper places under the pretense that it is somehow religious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 The Youngbloods answer for Merle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 2, 2013 Author Share Posted June 2, 2013 I had a bizarre, uneasy friendship with a number of slightly psychotic US Army special forces sargeants (Vietnam vets and still in the reserves) back in the late 1960's, in my hometown in Mississippi. I always thought there should be a sign when you enter Mississippi saying "Welcome to Mississippi, Where Tomorrow is Yesterday." What was your hometown? I lived in Natchez down in the southwest corner of the state for some 15 years but that was in the 1990s and 2000s. I cannot imagine what it would have been like int he 1960s and early 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryplatz Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 My favorite part of the video is (after the song) when the announcer refers to it as a "modern spiritual". Course, I guess it WAS for a lot of us. And just might be again soon for me, since my working days are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 "A modern spiritual" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojorule Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 A tea-grow spiritual, surely? Amazingly, they didn't make a hash of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I always thought there should be a sign when you enter Mississippi saying "Welcome to Mississippi, Where Tomorrow is Yesterday." What was your hometown? I cannot imagine what it would have been like int he 1960s and early 1970s. Laurel, in SE Mississippi. Family has lived there for a number of generations. I never lived there growing up (although I was born in Mississippi), as my father was a career military officer. We moved back to the family farm in 1966, so I spent most of my college summers there, as well as attending college there for one year while I was on "sabbatical" from Brown. The "sabbatical" was the result of my spending a lot more time drinking and playing music than going to class. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who went through something like that in the mid-60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 I know where Laurel is. I ended up being given one of those sabbaticals too. I took off intending to hitch to California and see the Stones at Altamont. I missed the gig (which was probably for the best) but ended up hanging around San Franciso for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorod Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Laurel, in SE Mississippi. Family has lived there for a number of generations. I never lived there growing up (although I was born in Mississippi), as my father was a career military officer. We moved back to the family farm in 1966, so I spent most of my college summers there, as well as attending college there for one year while I was on "sabbatical" from Brown. The "sabbatical" was the result of my spending a lot more time drinking and playing music than going to class. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who went through something like that in the mid-60's. sounds about right.....explains your mindset in your senior years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMinderbinder Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I've seen this video before and it totally cracks me up. I can't even bear to watch because it's so embarrassing. If this was only a myth, no one would believe it b/c they would say no one could be THAT clueless. Well, welcome to reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Where did all these 'squeaky' shows come from? Nashville? Was it my old man's fave, Mitch Miller's fault? BluesKing777. (A guy I worked with at my first job took huge pleasure lighting up on the steps of a Town Hall when everyone was still clueless...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billder99 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 ... I would guess that the lesson in this is....That in retrospect......"Hip" can be a bit "Hokey" as well ! They ALL 'look like stoners' Is that "hokey", or "tokey"... is there a difference? (cough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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