Zeppeholic Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 How much do you think a new 2013 Les Paul standard in desert burst finish be worth in 40 years if it's in really good condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 look bud, don't get yur' hopes up ... the lps' today are basically 'limited editions' of the original designs. it's the originals that go way up. they are expensive because they're rare. i say limited editions currently because each guitar is has a serial number which is more desireable than mass produced japanes crap, but many, many lps have been manufactured since the 1959 standards and there are a lot of factory duds. don't get me wrong, if you shell out for a genuine USA gibson les paul, you have got yourself a very good handmade instrument that will hold it's value for years to come. but truthfully, unless you are jimi hendrix, your lp isn't going to the clouds with value. it's the player that makes the guitar in most cases, unless you actually possess a 59' standard, in which case, the guitar is going to be valuable regardless of who's played it because there's so few of these left out there. cheers just as an example, you see eric clapton's guitars going for a quarter of a million dollars, but that's for a charity and these are rich dudes who have too much money anyway. speculating on a standard as an investment is fools play. really, a pawn shop will give you thirty five percent of retail in a pinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 How much do you think a new 2013 Les Paul standard in desert burst finish be worth in 40 years if it's in really good condition? Well, become a famous "Rock God," and it will be worth "millions!" Otherwise, no (real) collectible value, beyond keeping up with inflation or possibly(?) a bit better. Too many made, of too many similar models, these days. "Collectible" usually means "Rare" or Unique. CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Well, become a famous "Rock God," and it will be worth "millions!" Otherwise, no (real) collectible value, beyond keeping up with inflation or possibly(?) a bit better. Too many made, of too many similar models, these days. "Collectible" usually means "Rare" or Unique. CB Don't get me wrong, i'm only 16, but i plan on becoming a musician someday, i'm pretty good, one of the best in my town, esspecially for my age so they say, i just want something that's worth money for my kids and grandkids someday that represented me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Don't get me wrong, i'm only 16, but i plan on becoming a musician someday, i'm pretty good, one of the best in my town, esspecially for my age so they say, i just want something that's worth money for my kids and grandkids someday that represented me The only way your guitar will be of any great value will be if you become so rich and famous that it's value becomes meaningless to you. Oh the irony ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 basically, all modern Gibsons (or Fenders, or whatever) are just mass production items, rolling of a production line like tins of peas. They are hardly ever likely to be worth stratospheric amounts of money. Regards, Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 How much do you think a new 2013 Les Paul standard in desert burst finish be worth in 40 years if it's in really good condition? About 1/2 the value of a 2053 Les Paul Standard. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 How much do you think a new 2013 Les Paul standard in desert burst finish be worth in 40 years if it's in really good condition? I think most Standards kept in good condition will hold their value well. They'll probably sell for maybe between 50% and 80% of what the new Standards will be selling for at that point. Like if the new ones sell for $5,000 at that point, a well kept used one will sell for maybe $3,000 to 4,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 About 1/2 the value of a 2053 Les Paul Standard. P. Damn it Pippy!!! You owe me a new pair of pants, I just wet my Dockers!! [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 As much as I agree with what everyone has said.. It will actually depend on one thing.. That Gibson are still around at that time. If they ever shut and no more Gibsons are ever made. Then all of our guitars will shoot up in value.. Mind you id rather they still be around producing guitars. Only time will tell. OF course there are other possibilities, we could all be wiped out by a virus or a meteor, or enslaved by an alien race. Then nothing will be worth anything :P :). Just enjoy what you have while you have it. But yes a Gibson will last more than one lifetime if they are cared for correctly so you cant go wrong with a Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 basically, all modern Gibsons (or Fenders, or whatever) are just mass production items, rolling of a production line like tins of peas. They are hardly ever likely to be worth stratospheric amounts of money. Regards, Ian. i thought the point of shelling out for a gibson lp is that you are getting a handmade USA guitar! maybe some of the processes are automated these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 Why Gibson why! Oh well, it'll be played and loved and chipped here and there, but it'll have a great life. I hope whoever has it hafter i'm gone will cherish it as much as i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofaplayer Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 In 40 years from now guitars may well be made of completely different wood species. Mahogany, rosewood and ebony may not be available any more for instrument manufacturing. So any old Lester made of the traditional wood species may well be worth much more than you can imagine now. If you are allowed to sell it, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Dear Zeppeholic, any guitar is in my humble opinion worth as much as it is worth playing it. Even if the pure number of my instruments you might see in my signature could make believe so, I am not a collector but a player and buy my instruments after having considered budget and usefulness. That's e. g. the reason why I own four custom modified Fender Mexico FR Stratocasters which sadly aren't available in SSS configuration - this is for sound and playability. The last three items in the row might be worth some more money than they costed me for my two children when I have passed away, but I play them all and enjoy it. I just considered that it could be good when each of my children once will own one of the limited Frank Zappa "Roxy" SGs, and so I bought two, but as of me, it is all about playing them. Honestly, I dreamt of the FZ SG since seven years before I started playing guitar short before my 22nd birthday... The Custom LP Standard is a hair-raising instrument, and among dozens of LPs to my knowledge there is just one ca. 1983 K. M. (Kalamazoo Model) that can compete with it. According to the reply of the German distributor of that time, the friend of mine who owns it says that it probably is the only one in Europe, imported by a German student attending a US university that time. There has been no official export of any K. M. series LPs as far as I know. I wish you the same luck I had the day before yesterday at Thomann's, and that you might find an exceptional great instrument for your playing enjoyment. That's what it's all about I believe, and I suppose you wouldn't part with it your whole life if not in a desperate pinch. With all my best wishes capmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 i thought the point of shelling out for a gibson lp is that you are getting a handmade USA guitar! maybe some of the processes are automated these days? Look at the serial numbers, have a think about it, several hundred guitars a day, all hand made? Even the custom shop guitars aren't fully hand made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 i thought the point of shelling out for a gibson lp is that you are getting a handmade USA guitar! maybe some of the processes are automated these days? The bodies are cut by CNC machine.. which really is the best way to do that. But all the binding, the neck gluing and finishing etc are all done by hand still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 In 40 years from now guitars may well be made of completely different wood species. Mahogany, rosewood and ebony may not be available any more for instrument manufacturing. So any old Lester made of the traditional wood species may well be worth much more than you can imagine now. If you are allowed to sell it, that is. I actually bought my LP with my own money, my family really doesn't care about what i do. in 40 years the only person who wouldn't let me sell it would be my wife or kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I actually bought my LP with my own money, my family really doesn't care about what i do. in 40 years the only person who wouldn't let me sell it would be my wife or kid I experienced that my former wife didn't let me buy it... ... since two weeks I am divorced, and my teenage children love their rocking daddy! Congratulations on your new purchase, have fun, and post pics, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 The bodies are cut by CNC machine.. which really is the best way to do that. But all the binding, the neck gluing and finishing etc are all done by hand still. National Geographic short on building the Les Paul: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofaplayer Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I actually bought my LP with my own money, my family really doesn't care about what i do. in 40 years the only person who wouldn't let me sell it would be my wife or kid I meant allowed to sell by law. There may be a law in 40 years that prohibits business with those wood species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeholic Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 I meant allowed to sell by law. There may be a law in 40 years that prohibits business with those wood species. Oh, yeah, kinda scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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