MR GIBS Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Master Musem SJ 200 Vine I made a mistake and there is a missing "s" in "Master" - my keyboard is bad... Sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Krasi , thanks it's always good to see Ren's creations . Jeremy at Fuller's Vintage Guitars recently told me that they purchased the remaining 5 fingerboards Ren had stashed away for master museum guitars . Val & Jason Jones are completing the bodies to go with those fingerboards for Fuller's . JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 That's some serious BLING going on there ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMinderbinder Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 As over the top as that is, it's still nice to look at. Really seems like it should be in an actual museum. I'd feel weird having something like that at my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Talk about a bit of hyperbole. The burst '58 Lester of the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 NOT ME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I love bling but I h a t e those carved heals. Yecchh! Real backwards looking detail on such an elegant guitar. Theres a Brazilian one at nearly 1/3 the price on ebay. I fancy that one much more.I just love it. Problem is no one is interested in oriental carpets enough to buy one of my Isfahan's at half what it costs in a shoppe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheSilver Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Dang! When I saw the thread title, I thought the guitar would have a picture of Mater, the tow truck from the movie Cars. I'm disappointed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheSilver Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I love bling but I h a t e those carved heals. Yecchh! Real backwards looking detail on such an elegant guitar. I feel just the opposite. I really do not like bling on a guitar, but I think the heel carves are an elegant touch. Go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I feel just the opposite. I really do not like bling on a guitar, but I think the heel carves are an elegant touch. Go figure! Yeah a guy I play with is just like that even one circle of abolone around the sound hole repulses him. And good carving on a chair or piece of furniture just knocks me out, but for some reason this carved heal thing conjures up horrible images : ) Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I feel just the opposite. I really do not like bling on a guitar, but I think the heel carves are an elegant touch. Go figure! +1 I really think the carvings are elegant (most of them anyway) JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMinderbinder Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Dang! When I saw the thread title, I thought the guitar would have a picture of Mater, the tow truck from the movie Cars. I'm disappointed! That's what I thought, too! I was going to make a joke about it but figured no one would know the character. Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Theres a Brazilian one at nearly 1/3 the price on ebay. You have a link to that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheSilver Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 That's what I thought, too! I was going to make a joke about it but figured no one would know the character. Good one! I have a 4 year old, a 2-1/2 year old and a less than 1 year old. I know all kinds of cartoon characters!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballcorner Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 As much as it is interesting to see skills put to use, a guitar one could never play makes no sense to me at all. They take the very best woods in the shop and then carve in all this inlay. What guitar could have been built out of that wood? What would it have sounded like? What songs might have been written on it? A guitar you can't play is sort of like an iron that won't get hot. It no longer serves the purpose it is supposed to serve. So, what is the point? And why use the best wood in the shop to make this instead of a guitar someone can play? I am very basic in my approach to choosing guitars. I want the best wood and the best craftsmanship. I often ordered guitars for my shop that had absolutely no inlay. I once even refused to buy from a luthier because he refused to make me some guitars without inlay. Decoration makes some sense for certain professional musicians. There are a host of 'Opry players who had their names inlaid in the fingerboard of a Martin or what have you. But this level of decoration actually puts so much glue in the wood, you can't imagine it having the ability to resonate. I do at least appreciate that the top is left as a piece of wood so you could at least in theory play the guitar, but it is way too crazy for me to ever consider. I guess if I wanted one, I would wait for the Epiphone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotTheSilver Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 As much as it is interesting to see skills put to use, a guitar one could never play makes no sense to me at all. They take the very best woods in the shop and then carve in all this inlay. What guitar could have been built out of that wood? What would it have sounded like? What songs might have been written on it? I think these guitars make perfect sense, if you think about why they are really made. These Master Museum guitars are probably intended by Gibson as more of a marketing move than anything else. They get a lot of attention and are basically physical advertisements. From that perspective, I think they serve their purpose very well. Gibson makes plenty of SJ-200s to serve the market. Setting one aside,even with prime woods, isn't really going to impact the world of music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 You have a link to that one? This one http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-100th-Anniversary-Gibson-Custom-SJ-200-/170930200146?pt=Guitar&hash=item27cc3bde52 I love the fingerboard inlay. Reminds me of the Smithsonian Exhibition building and American 19th Century art/decoration. But though Brazilian gives a little edge in theory...it does not do miracles. An Indian Rosewood like this used would be half this price. I tried a nice custom shop Madagascar (Fb,B&S) J200 at Music Inn, it was such a dud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 As much as it is interesting to see skills put to use, a guitar one could never play makes no sense to me at all. They take the very best woods in the shop and then carve in all this inlay. What guitar could have been built out of that wood? What would it have sounded like? What songs might have been written on it? A guitar you can't play is sort of like an iron that won't get hot. It no longer serves the purpose it is supposed to serve. So, what is the point? And why use the best wood in the shop to make this instead of a guitar someone can play? I am very basic in my approach to choosing guitars. I want the best wood and the best craftsmanship. I often ordered guitars for my shop that had absolutely no inlay. I once even refused to buy from a luthier because he refused to make me some guitars without inlay. Decoration makes some sense for certain professional musicians. There are a host of 'Opry players who had their names inlaid in the fingerboard of a Martin or what have you. But this level of decoration actually puts so much glue in the wood, you can't imagine it having the ability to resonate. I do at least appreciate that the top is left as a piece of wood so you could at least in theory play the guitar, but it is way too crazy for me to ever consider. I guess if I wanted one, I would wait for the Epiphone! My wife seems to also think that all the inlay boggs down the tone. Im not quite sure about that but its very possible. As for a guitar to be used . If I bought a $30k guitar Id play it..that wouldnt stop me.(Being out of work , that isn't going to be anytime soon though) I like all that art for the most part..makes me enjoy holding the thing even more.But If it does not sound/play great its just not worth anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 This one http://www.ebay.com/...=item27cc3bde52 I love the fingerboard inlay. Reminds me of the Smithsonian Exhibition building and American 19th Century art/decoration. But though Brazilian gives a little edge in theory...it does not do miracles. An Indian Rosewood like this used would be half this price. I tried a nice custom shop Madagascar (Fb,B&S) J200 at Music Inn, it was such a dud. Thanks....but this one 'floats my boat'!! J200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR GIBS Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 I love the Gibson Master Museum instruments. Perhaps because I fall under colourfull ormanents. My favourite is the "Black Pearl" SJ 200. In 2008-2009 when I made my decision to buy an expensive guitar it was this small film about the Gibson Master Museum that helped me choose an SJ 200. As we had no Gibson dealer here in 2008-2009 and I could not play and try a Gibson acoustic I was listening sound samples of instruments and looked videos in youtube. And when I saw the Gibson Master Museum video I vas so excited! I thought: "... if a guitar company can make these extremely good looking ornate guitars this is a sign of power - all their instruments should be very fine guitars..." And I bought my MR GIBS. And I was right. I do not like particulary much this above instrument and I think it is overprised. In my humble opinion the fretboard inlays are trivial as a concept and on the other hand exagerrated. Same thing I must say about the haedstock inlays. I would NEVER!!! put plastic tuners on a master museum instrument... Grover imperlal gold would be fine, I think. Of course for a player (buyer) it would be fine if (at least) he could hear the guitar play, or play on it himself. In this connection it would be fine if the sailor had thought to put some sound samples of the guitar on the e-bay page, but on the other hand (as some of you say) the sound could not be perfect. I have no doubt that the sound of this instrument is perfect. Ren ferguson did it... Should BE perfect this sound. In conclusion i will admit, that It would not be me who buys this instrument... If someone of you, guys finds "The Black Pearl" SJ 200 in an auction - please let me know. I will drow a government loan and I'll bid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I love the Gibson Master Museum instruments. Perhaps because I fall under colourfull ormanents. My favourite is the "Black Pearl" SJ 200. In 2008-2009 when I made my decision to buy an expensive guitar it was this small film about the Gibson Master Museum that helped me choose an SJ 200. As we had no Gibson dealer here in 2008-2009 and I could not play and try a Gibson acoustic I was listening sound samples of instruments and looked videos in youtube. And when I saw the Gibson Master Museum video I vas so excited! I thought: "... if a guitar company can make these extremely good looking ornate guitars this is a sign of power - all their instruments should be very fine guitars..." And I bought my MR GIBS. And I was right. I do not like particulary much this above instrument and I think it is overprised. In my humble opinion the fretboard inlays are trivial as a concept and on the other hand exagerrated. Same thing I must say about the haedstock inlays. I would NEVER!!! put plastic tuners on a master museum instrument... Grover imperlal gold would be fine, I think. Of course for a player (buyer) it would be fine if (at least) he could hear the guitar play, or play on it himself. In this connection it would be fine if the sailor had thought to put some sound samples of the guitar on the e-bay page, but on the other hand (as some of you say) the sound could not be perfect. I have no doubt that the sound of this instrument is perfect. Ren ferguson did it... Should BE perfect this sound. In conclusion i will admit, that It would not be me who buys this instrument... If someone of you, guys finds "The Black Pearl" SJ 200 in an auction - please let me know. I will drow a government loan and I'll bid Krasi, you might be bidding against me! I actually have a vine guitar, and I like it just fine. The anniversary J200 I linked to is REALLY nice (to me).... I'd probably pay $4.5K for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR GIBS Posted June 21, 2013 Author Share Posted June 21, 2013 Krasi, you might be bidding against me! I actually have a vine guitar, and I like it just fine. The anniversary J200 I linked to is REALLY nice (to me).... I'd probably pay $4.5K for it. Go for it, my friend. Vine is not my inlay. But if you see somewhere "The Black Pearl - bevare and keep away! She's MINE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseybeat1963 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Thanks....but this one 'floats my boat'!! J200 I so much more dig that Brazilian thing. The color of that back and that 19th Century Guilded age inlay does it for me. In maple I prefer so called "Fiddleback" figuring to Quilted. If I could have my way Id want fiddleback..quartersawn..English/European maple What Vine do you have? (SJ200/45/185) Take Care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvillRob Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I so much more dig that Brazilian thing. The color of that back and that 19th Century Guilded age inlay does it for me. In maple I prefer so called "Fiddleback" figuring to Quilted. If I could have my way Id want fiddleback..quartersawn..English/European maple What Vine do you have? (SJ200/45/185) Take Care No....not even an acoustic...not even a Gibson...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippyD Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Hello, This is my first post on the forum, though I've technically been a member for a while now. I am the owner of this Master Museum guitar. I assure you, it is the absolute best sounding guitar I have ever played. I'm generally a fan of rosewood back and sides, but this guitar sounds fantastic. It has bass response like you wouldn't believe. Combine that with the crystal-clear highs from the maple back and sides, and this guitar is an unbelievable piece. As for looks, each person obviously has his or her preference. I tend to prefer more ornamentation, and I love these Master Museum guitars. Ren Ferguson actually contacted me about the guitar a few weeks ago. He informed me that this was the very first Master Museum quality guitar which he ever built for Gibson. He also says it is one of his personal favorites. He mentioned that there is only one other which he likes slightly better. He called it "Chrysanthemum." I've never seen any pictures of it. He thinks the guitar is worth much more than the price on the listing and encouraged me to raise the price substantially. He is in the process of providing me with documentation proving this to be the first of its kind. Anyway, I just wanted to say hello. I've been meaning to post on the forum for quite some time. I figured this was as good a place as any to begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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