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... So I stopped in at my regular music store and ran into

an Epi Casino "Inspired by".

Was used and $800. Checked it out and decided not to be a snob

and took it home to make a final decision.

I was very surprised how the craftsmanship was : flawless.

The feel was great and it sounded absolutely excellent.

Great Gibson USA P90s and top switches etc.

It was a keeper and I won't be a snob no more!

Pics will follow when my photobucket works again.

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yep...great score for 8-bills !!

 

from the lack of responses you can guess that the snobbery continues as ever........ [thumbdn]

Well, the snobbery ...

I think it is silly. If it feels good, sounds good and is made well then it

is an instrument for me. An instrument made to be played and not to be admired,

and showed off.

"It can only be good if it is expensive..." and "... gotta have the right name

on the headstock..." is simple stupidity and is for collectors and not players.

This "made in China" IBL Casino fits right in with my RIC360/12, ES339, LP Standard,

Firebird V, EC Strat, LP Goldtop P90 and my ES333 (which is not a fancy 335 but

blows a lot of them out of the water)and a Gretsch 6120.

I play them all trough a Lonestar Special Head with 2x12 cabinet and a VOX AC15 (Chinese!)

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"Y'ain't got no photos, Dude...so, it doesn't exist!" [flapper][biggrin]

 

CB

I know ... however I am struggling with this stupid photobucket and

I'm getting nowhere. My album just shows 10 older pics and I can't

find a way to get pics from "my pictures" into the bloody bucket.

I was able to post pics before and really miss it.

Some professional advice?

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Not on the pix, but definitely on the guitar.

 

I'm dead serious in saying that I find the Epi line a whole bunch of incredible value.

 

In some countries they pay doggone near as much for an Epi as "we" pay for a Gibson in the U.S., and are quite happy with 'em. I only have a few of 'em, mostly because we haven't had a Gibson dealer within a day's drive until a month or so ago, and I refuse to pay over $500 for a guitar I haven't played. But I've not had one I'd feel bad about playing on stage - and I have.

 

My major concerns are somewhat similar to my concerns with a mail order Gibson or whatever: Climate factors that can screw up a mail order guitar; some runs had relatively poor electronics, but I think that's been corrected; lesser QC than ideally a Gibson would have and - most important - concerns about aging of the woods involved.

 

I've heard of more difficulty with Epis having wood changes - shrinking fingerboard to give sticky-out frets and neck torsion difficulties - than Gibsons, but I recall one complaining forum member who was quite unhappy with about the same on a Gibson when he got it in the U.K. OTOH, I think some Gibsons end up on store walls or warehouses longer than might be healthy for 'em.

 

Still, figure you can get a Gibson 335 for around $3,000 new and a new Epi Dot for $400 + another $100 for a case. I figure the new Epis are likely 90 percent or more as good as the 335 outa the box. Will it last as long? I dunno. Each instrument is different and I'd honestly trust a Gibson set of woods more than the Epis, but... Sheesh.

 

My "baby" brother could get about any guitar he wanted and after a bunch of looking bought himself an Epi LP. He sez it's the best-playing guitar he's had his hands on, and as nice sounding as anything too. Of course he's a lot younger than I am and only has been playing for maybe 22-24 years.

 

In the Epi version of the forum, there's a lot of love for the Epi acoustic and AE Masterbilt line that's solid wood and nice sounding stuff.

 

Bottom line is that compared to stuff I've seen through the years the Epi is about as good a bargain for a player as brands that are far, far more expensive. For a traveling pro the Gibson probably is a better choice, but I'd still think of keeping an equivalent Epi as a backup - and one I wouldn't be worried about using on stage.

 

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I know ... however I am struggling with this stupid photobucket and

I'm getting nowhere. My album just shows 10 older pics and I can't

find a way to get pics from "my pictures" into the bloody bucket.

I was able to post pics before and really miss it.

Some professional advice?

 

At photobucket you click on "upload" up at the top. It takes you to the next page. You can either drag the pics (if they are on your desktop) on to the dotted outlined square, or you can click on the blue button that says "Choose photos and videos". After clicking on the blue button a window will pop up giving you access to your documents, desktop, and all your files on your computer. Simply choose the file you want uploaded. That's about it. Hope you figure out the problem. [biggrin]

 

Congratulations on the Casino! [thumbup]

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I'm dead serious in saying that I find the Epi line a whole bunch of incredible value.

 

Still, figure you can get a Gibson 335 for around $3,000 new and a new Epi Dot for $400 + another $100 for a case. I figure the new Epis are likely 90 percent or more as good as the 335 outa the box.

 

+1. Epi's are a better value now than ever. Everyone has to decide for themsleves if that final 10% of quality is worth the price of a Gibson.

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I know a gal who has been playing since she was knee high to a grasshopper. Now, she's 86. She's from West Virginia and where she grew up, if you didn't know how to play (and play well), that was just embarrassing. Why? Because there weren't a lot of other skilled arts to indulge in the woods (cabinetry, etc., but not a lot else). So, people played and sang. How cool is that?

 

This woman is the finest musician I have ever seen and heard handle a guitar. Her deft motion and the subtlety of her fingering on chords and notes is nothing short of amazing. It's like she lives and breathes with the instrument. She is a true artist, a master. She played in the Grand Ole Opry and, she was a musician with Roy Rogers' band for several years when they played the Opry and when they performed out. When I reported to my brother, who is classically trained and has played consistently for 39 years, that she was such a musician that I had not seen before, including him (which was hard to say because he is quite amazing and certainly a close second), I thought he'd be upset. Instead, he simply looked at me and said, "Ed, it's a rare thing to see gifted musician of that quality. With her arthritis and diabetes hampering her, can you imagine how well she played in her 30s, 40s and 50s." I can honestly say, she must have been quite stunning.

 

Why do I tell you this? Because all of her guitars are still Epiphones, to this day. She says Epiphones are fine guitars. I agree with her; Epiphones are certainly fine instruments.

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I know a gal who has been playing since she was knee high to a grasshopper. Now, she's 86. She's from West Virginia and where she grew up, if you didn't know how to play (and play well), that was just embarrassing. Why? Because there weren't a lot of other skilled arts to indulge in the woods (cabinetry, etc., but not a lot else). So, people played and sang. How cool is that?

 

This woman is the finest musician I have ever seen and heard handle a guitar. Her deft motion and the subtlety of her fingering on chords and notes is nothing short of amazing. It's like she lives and breathes with the instrument. She is a true artist, a master. She played in the Grand Ole Opry and, she was a musician with Roy Rogers' band for several years when they played the Opry and when they performed out. When I reported to my brother, who is classically trained and has played consistently for 39 years, that she was such a musician that I had not seen before, including him (which was hard to say because he is quite amazing and certainly a close second), I thought he'd be upset. Instead, he simply looked at me and said, "Ed, it's a rare thing to see gifted musician of that quality. With her arthritis and diabetes hampering her, can you imagine how well she played in her 30s, 40s and 50s." I can honestly say, she must have been quite stunning.

 

Why do I tell you this? Because all of her guitars are still Epiphones, to this day. She says Epiphones are fine guitars. I agree with her; Epiphones are certainly fine instruments.

 

Great story !!

another W.Va. music story here......

 

my Great Uncle, Paul Elmore, was one of the finest pickers i've ever met and was a HUGE influence on me....which still amazes me because he lost half his fingers due to being tricked into holding a blasting cap between his hands while it went off as a young boy.

he had 2.75 fingers on his neck hand & 2.5 on his pick hand (he fingerpicked)not counting thumbs.

he lost his fingers in either Matewon or Elkhorn W.Va around 1915.

he could play bluegrass like nobodys' business, and will forever be my inspiration to play on, no matter how badly arthritis bothers me....if he could play at pro level with only half his fingers, I have no excuse to not play just because my knuckles hurt a bit.

 

Miss you Unca-P !!

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... So I stopped in at my regular music store and ran into

an Epi Casino "Inspired by".

Was used and $800. Checked it out and decided not to be a snob

and took it home to make a final decision.

I was very surprised how the craftsmanship was : flawless.

The feel was great and it sounded absolutely excellent.

Great Gibson USA P90s and top switches etc.

It was a keeper and I won't be a snob no more!

Pics will follow when my photobucket works again.

 

Quite happy with my Elitist Broadway and Byrdland. Love 'em as much as my L4CES =D>

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Bender...

 

You're bleeping right!

 

Your unc, Django too... And during the U.S. Bicentennial I hung out a lot with "old fiddlers" and such - and neither pain nor lost fingers, even a hand, stopped 'em playing.

 

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