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MReynolds

MReynolds

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The big difference is going to be the price. The Standard is going to run you around $1000 to $1300 more. As far as sound...it would be best if you can go to a music store and try both out through whatever type of amp you have. Only you can be the judge of whether the sound is very different. I'm sure it's going to be somewhat different as the Standard uses different pickups...but again, you have to be the judge.

Mark

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Basically the the same guitar. As far as tone goes, ALL guitars sound different, I had a Studio that played better

than my Standard. and a PRS that sounded better than all of them

 

Don't make the classic mistake of buying a certain guitar because it costs more

 

Good Luck

MReynolds

MReynolds

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I don't really know...you're going to have to figure that one out for yourself. If I was to bet on which one has the warmer tone I'd say the Standard. I just bought a 2006 '59 Reissue VOS (which is basically a Standard) and it has one of the warmest, sweetest tones I've heard...I was so attached to my '74 LP Deluxe Gold Top and thought I couldn't find better tone that that one, but the Burstbucker pickups are really nice...which is what is on the Standard (though the '59 has Burstbucker 1 and 2's and the Standard has Burstbucker Pro Alnico's).

 

Yeah and what Mark says...cost isn't always the determining factor...like I said before...TRY the guitars before you buy!!

electricguitarist805

electricguitarist805

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I don't really know...you're going to have to figure that one out for yourself. If I was to bet on which one has the warmer tone I'd say the Standard. I just bought a 2006 '59 Reissue VOS (which is basically a Standard) and it has one of the warmest' date=' sweetest tones I've heard...I was so attached to my '74 LP Deluxe Gold Top and thought I couldn't find better tone that that one, but the Burstbucker pickups are really nice...which is what is on the Standard (though the '59 has Burstbucker 1 and 2's and the Standard has Burstbucker Pro Alnico's).

 

Yeah and what Mark says...cost isn't always the determining factor...like I said before...TRY the guitars before you buy!![/quote']

 

well um okay and another question beetween the epi les paul custom and the studio wat wuld u buy???

MReynolds

MReynolds

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how much mre badly do they snd??

 

I couldn't tell you...I haven't played any of the new ones...all I know is that I've never been a fan of Epi's...the fit and finish haven't been as good as the Gibson's. They use Alnico V's so maybe sound similar. Try playing them. I can describe them all day to you, but until you actually play those guitars you won't have a clue as to how they sound through YOUR amplifier.

jmac

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My understanding is that many Standards have a more expensive body than the Studio's. Factors like the type of wood, tuners, etc...affect how much you're paying.

 

Like MReynolds said, it's all about trying out the guitar and finding out which one sounds the best to you. I have a Studio Vintage Mahogany, one of the cheapest Gibson LP's and I love it. I was looking for a crunchy, raw sound and a body that looks like it can break your face off. So, it works for me.

 

What are you looking for in a guitar electricguitarist?

MReynolds

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Hey jmac...nice to see another Colorado person on...yeah trying them out is what it's all about and I mean ALL of them. My first Les Paul I sat down and literally played every one in the shop. I could have bought a Custom or whatever other models were available...I finally settled on the Deluxe Gold Top...not the top of the line, but it had the best sound and feel of all those I played...and even with the mini humbuckers it really rips and gets great harmonics.

SRV-Zeppelin

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a warm tone is what im lookn for

 

1: Learn how to spell. (no offense, but that shorthand stuff just annoys me...)

 

2: Buy a Gibson, and get the Standard. If you're looking for that warm, smooth "Les Paul" tone, you're probably not going to find it from a Studio, and definitely not from the Epi. Nothing against the Studios, they're great guitars, but if you can afford it the Standard is way better and definitely worth saving for. I waited 8 months for my standard and I'm glad I did. I have an Epi SG modified to Gibson 61 RI specs and it's still not the same.

MReynolds

MReynolds

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a warm tone is what im lookn for

 

If you are dead set on getting the warmest tone...I'd say spring for the Standard...but please, please, please...you owe it to yourself to try as many different models as you can...and run it through your own amp...not all amps sound the same. If you try it on an amp at the store you might find it sounded ok there, but then when you get it home you might be like "what the heck...it didn't sound like that in the store!". Always try it out on what you're going to be playing through and the settings you normally use!!

FennRx

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wow there is a lot of bullshit out there.

 

1) it used to be that the Studio was the same as the Standard minus the binding, the type of gibson logo and the fancy finish. they used to have the same hardware, electronics and pickups. the wood was the same, just a plaintop instead of a flametop. now, the Standard is waaaaaay different than a Studio, which IMO totally defeats the purpose of the Studio. then again, i think chambering defeats the point of a LP, but that's another story.

 

2) an R9 is as different from the Standard as the Standard is as different from the Studio, if not more.

 

3) you can get that "warm Les Paul tone" from any model. it just comes down to preference. i personally think the Traditional is way better than the new Standard or the Studio. ymmv.

MReynolds

MReynolds

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bull**** is a matter of opinion I guess...but whatever.

 

Yeah I forgot they were chambering the new Standards...that gives them a different sound than the non-weight relieved models. I'll go with you on that...if you want a chambered guitar, buy a hollow or semi-hollow body. I was dead set against a chambered LP for my preferences.

 

As far as the R9 being so different, you know you CAN buy a chambered R9 as well...

 

The "warm Les Paul tone" is not going to be the same from model to model. My R9 sounds VERY different from my '74 Deluxe...it's not just the fact that any of those guitars are Les Pauls that will give them that warm tone. I think the combination of the Burstbuckers, caps and pots on my R9 are what give it an even warmer fuller tone than my Deluxe.

 

I'm with you on the Traditional though...I would definitely buy one of those before a new Standard or Studio.

FennRx

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bull**** is a matter of opinion I guess...but whatever.

 

Yeah I forgot they were chambering the new Standards...that gives them a different sound than the non-weight relieved models. I'll go with you on that...if you want a chambered guitar' date=' buy a hollow or semi-hollow body. I was dead set against a chambered LP for my preferences.

 

As far as the R9 being so different, you know you CAN buy a chambered R9 as well...

 

The "warm Les Paul tone" is not going to be the same from model to model. My R9 sounds VERY different from my '74 Deluxe...it's not just the fact that any of those guitars are Les Pauls that will give them that warm tone. I think the combination of the Burstbuckers, caps and pots on my R9 are what give it an even warmer fuller tone than my Deluxe.

 

I'm with you on the Traditional though...I would definitely buy one of those before a new Standard or Studio.[/quote']

 

it is NOT a matter of opinion. an R9 is nothing like a new 2008 Standard. that is a matter of fact.

 

and yes all LPs sound different, but having owned Studios, Standards (chambered and weight relieved), Historics, BFGs, Classics, i can say that a nice warm LP tone (not the same tone) is attainable by all of them...i just prefer the tone of my Historics.

MReynolds

MReynolds

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Well, since you two "experts" have all the answers, I'll leave it to you to answer the guys original question and I'll sit back and see if I can learn anything.

 

Just remember...one man's bull**** is another man's fertilizer.

Guitar slinger

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Well' date=' since you two "experts" have all the answers, I'll leave it to you to answer the guys original question and I'll sit back and see if I can learn anything.

 

Just remember...one man's bull**** is another man's fertilizer.[/quote']

 

I'm at your side MAN!!!! MY gramma used to say: "Who has **** inside his head got a fertilized mind" (but in portuguese)

FennRx

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you are the one who said a USA Standard is basically the same as an R9. this simply isnt true.....the 1 piece solid back, a different type of finish, a long neck tenon, different pots, caps, and pickups, a different headstock angle, different tuners, holly headstock, ABR bridge....

 

there's a reason why historics typically sound better. but ultimately it does come down to one's personal preferences for tone, weight, etc. but my question is if you think a standard is the same as an R9, then why did you buy an R9? seems silly to me to spend upwards of $3500-5000 when a Standard can be had for $1800 used.

MReynolds

MReynolds

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Ok...I see the problem...you took my statement that the R9 was "basically a Standard"...I should have been more accurate and stated that the R9 is the "original" Standard...I mean wasn't that what they called them back in '58, '59 and '60?? That's what it says in my Vintage Price Guide anyway...it says "Gibson Les Paul Standard"...

 

And yes...I think the R9 "Standard" is better...

 

I got mine for $3400...it was essentially brand new...some guy bought it...stashed it then traded it back to the store two years later...it's in beautiful shape.

aj

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well um okay and another question beetween the epi les paul custom and the studio wat wuld u buy???

 

Are you LH or RH? That in itself is going to make a difference on whats even available to you, in model, color, and

in-store stock.

 

That said, I have an Epi LP+ (not custom) and Gib LP Studio.

 

There is the visual difference (binding, color,amount of flame),

Some Studios will have flame, some won't. Mine has a decent amount, but nothing near 4A.

 

The weight and neck size between the two are very similar, but the Studio does not seem to be 'grabby' like the Epi.

The tuners on the Studio are better, and offer finer adjustment. It also holds tuning much longer than the Epi

 

I did play them side by side in the local GC. with the background noise, it was hard to tell much difference.

However, once home, the difference was readily apparent.

 

I think the Studio has a 'sweeter' sound than the Epi.

for lack of a better term, the highs are not as "shrill" especially once you pass the 12th fret.

 

I also got the Studio as a 'closeout' on the same weekend GC was offering 200 off any studio, so between the 'closeout' markdown and this weekend only sale, it was under 1k (case included).

With an unspent 'tax stimulus check', total was 400 out of pocket for a LH wine/gold.

 

Hard to refuse, much less beat, that deal =D>

zachd33

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I kind of skimmed, but I don't think anyone recomended the Gibson Les Paul Vintage Mahogany. It is a great guitar for less, but if money is not an issue go with the standard.

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