ParlourMan Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 So, while out a few nights ago, I went into one of the bars where a couple of fellas from the open mic scene here were playing... one bloke plays a Takemine, been a while since I seen them and right away I noticed the guitar had had an 'upgrade' in the form of his pickup, the same pickup I Presume, no way to tell exactly what it is as it's internal and had a wheel similar (but not the same) as the LRBggs element. However gone is his internal wheel and he's put a LP style volume control roughly where you would see one on a J-160E if you were to liken it to any existing Gibson model. Now, the one similarity between these two fella's and us is that he plays the fiddly bits and backup rhythm in his 2-man job, like I do in mine... he's forever adjusting so I can see how this configuration would work well for him... Got me thinking, I could use an easier way to adjust up & down myself and by not having the wheel I could even use a soundhole cover/feedback buster etc... Not sure I'd want to drill a hole in the top of my J-45 or 50 though. Anyone seen this mod / or similar? My thoughts are a volume pedal for my rig as I definitely could use a better way to control the vilumes than the wheel provides, but eliminates the use of a feedback buster as the cover would knock the wheel off of its glued spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I have a volume boost on my G3 which I use for example when I want some extra volume during the track for lead work or when I fingerpick, activates with a foot pedal. It only increase the volume by one level, the one that Ive preset but it does the job when having to get that extra oomph mid track, or to annoy my singer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 That's the thing EA, I'm forever switching between lead parts and providing extra rhythm and whatnot, so I'm at the wheel quite a bit myself... but as I say not sure I'd want to put a hole and LP/335 style volume knob on a 1700 quid guitar. Kudos to the fella though, nifty mod for the man who has a cheaper guitar or who isn't too fussed about a non-reversable mod. For the feedback buster, I tried it one night, was decent for what it does, but it knocked the wheel off its glued spot on the 45 (that's how I know it wont work) so when it was at the luthier for a wee setup he fixed it back in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 That's the thing EA, I'm forever switching between lead parts and providing extra rhythm and whatnot, so I'm at the wheel quite a bit myself... But thats why an effects unit like the G3 with the foot switch gives you the opportunity to switch gears as many times as you want during a track ... you just have to keep in mind it will be just two gears, loud and louder ... No drilling reuired, just runs as part of the chain from the guitar to the amp / pa Actually, when I think about it the G3 gives you three settings / foot switches per track, so you could in theory have 4 volume levels, orginal plsu the three that the effects unit allows you with the three pedals, you just have to preset it so each one is a bit louder than the other .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 No drilling reuired, just runs as part of the chain from the guitar to the amp / pa I'm not using the amp anymore. I'm using 3 DI boxes and a split signal, a dry left, a dry right and my effects channel from the jamman delay, thicken it up a bit... got it sounding fairly big in the rooms we tend to play in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Sounds too complicated for me ... are you still using an acoustic or youre taking the Gretsch out these days with that set up ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Guy Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I'm using 3 DI boxes and a split signal, a dry left, a dry right and my effects channel from the jamman delay, thicken it up a bit... Now you're talking in a foreign language to me...I don't understand a single element of this! But then I'm not a gigging player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 27, 2013 Author Share Posted August 27, 2013 Sounds too complicated for me ... are you still using an acoustic or youre taking the Gretsch out these days with that set up ... ? No, purely acoustic. Dedicated channel for each side eq'd a bit to make it thick, effects channel runs across both sides. But, even with effects engaged I still have a dry signal running both sides. Quite funky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpicker Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Better than a volume pedal is a guitar cable made by Taylor that has a volume control knob right on the right angle plug that goes into your endpin jack. Very handy and not as sensitive to small turnings as a soundhole wheel in my experience. Works like a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 This little TC Electronics mini-boost might get the job done ...... http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/tc-electronic-spark-mini-booster-581834 BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 I use an old Boss (Roland) FV-200 volume pedal for the U-Bass, which has no on-board volume control. I would imagine there's a more compact unit available, but the Boss volume pedal is sturdily built, hands-free, and would not require mods to the guitar. Surprisingly pricey for as simple a device as they are. Something like this: Boss FV-200 eBay listing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Ernie Ball volume pedal: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/ernie-ball-vp-jr.-passive-volume-pedal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Dedicated channel for each side eq'd a bit to make it thick, effects channel runs across both sides. But, even with effects engaged I still have a dry signal running both sides. Quite funky. We are talking acoustic guitars here, right? Play that funky music, white boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchristo Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 PM, these taylor guitar cable with volume pot built in works great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I have a Schatten volume control which is the ONLY volume thingy that I have ever bought that is smooth, crackle-fee and noiseless: http://www.schattendesign.com/blackbox.htm You can use your own lead then! I do like to back off the volume a touch on my L50. BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 We are talking acoustic guitars here, right? Play that funky music, white boy. Yes... all acoustic. It's the setup that's funky Nick, not me.... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passthej45 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I rarely have to change volume so I just carved out the back of the FB buster, doesn't really solve your problem, but it's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Had thought of that when looking over the soundhole cover, but as I'd have no access to the volume it's a no go. Of all the solutions an external guitar volume control like yer man's I detailed at the top is most appealing but it would mean another guitar unless I manned yup to the idea of a hole on a gibson top (not too sure I want to do that) ...but also not sure I'd want to give up using the slopes live either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passthej45 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 It could be the PM sig model...... Controls on the front of a slope(other than the 160e). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 It could be the PM sig model...... Controls on the front of a slope(other than the 160e). Haha... well I don't think Gibson will ever be offering me a signature model, so if I wanted one I'd have to make my own. Essentially you're right though, it would be converting it to a J-160E like config for the modern model with a solid top. Probably not something I'd leap into without a lot of thought and accepting I'd devalued a guitar, plus the inevitable 'wtf' from the purist geeks. easy sell on a Takemine, not so much so on a higher dollar ride... Had a look at the V-cable, doesn't review too well, good idea but seems like it's not as good as the blurb claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passthej45 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Haha... well I don't think Gibson will ever be offering me a signature model, so if I wanted one I'd have to make my own. Essentially you're right though, it would be converting it to a J-160E like config for the modern model with a solid top. Probably not something I'd leap into without a lot of thought and accepting I'd devalued a guitar, plus the inevitable 'wtf' from the purist geeks. easy sell on a Takemine, not so much so on a higher dollar ride... Had a look at the V-cable, doesn't review too well, good idea but seems like it's not as good as the blurb claims. You could install it as long as you kept it tasteful and subtle. Some possibilities : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 You could install it as long as you kept it tasteful and subtle. Some possibilities : Hahaha, these are great... the last is my favourite by far..... Handy if we start dressing up like Daft Punk instead of just covering them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I just leave mine on 11.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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