Del Nilppeznaf Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I know ya probably sick to the teeth of me..haha but i dont care :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Not at all, Sunshine... You keep posting them and we'll tell you once you've got a hit on your hands. I would say though, given the output levels are on the upwards, it would be worth you investing in a small home studio gizmo, even something simple like a BOSS recorder and Mic. Few hundred euros. Sorted! I'll have a listen later on as I've no headphones here at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Not at all, Sunshine... You keep posting them and we'll tell you once you've got a hit on your hands. I would say though, given the output levels are on the upwards, it would be worth you investing in a small home studio gizmo, even something simple like a BOSS recorder and Mic. Few hundred euros. Sorted! I'll have a listen later on as I've no headphones here at the minute. Cheers PM dont worry when u hear it..the lyrics have now become much more badger n wine..this was recorded in 2009..im my house..with the band set up and a few mics I have overdubbed some guitar lines I have a small studio mate...but im now making the right contacts ;) so i will have someone else to do all the work...produced by me of course..haha x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 OK had a listen, the too ra loo ra stuff, I thought was going to be 'swords of a 1000 men' by Tenpole Tudor for some reason, anyway... I liked the drum feel and his drum sounds, I think some of the acoustic stuff is way too high in the mix though.... Overall, I'm going to have to pull ye on the lyrics again, anything to do with trains & midnight has to go... you should expel them from your vocabulary. I heard a few other blues cliches in there too... again, dump these..... some lyrics were incomprehensible which is an own-goal as most audiences don't connect well with words they can't distinguish. I know I'm being harsh, but it is what you want to hear really isn't it? I'd say if you find yourself drifting into a lyric you may have heard before somewhere, stop, reverse, back-up, toot the horn, come at it from a different angle.... or stop writing tunes and then trying to fit in as many blues'isms as you can, write the stories first, then turn your story into the lyrics of a song for which you have a new tune. There is a difference... when I said warts n all the other day I actually meant I want to hear about the warts, not that you may have contracted them and were now in a station at midnight sometime later... I'm talking about the itch, the scratch, the droppin yer drawers down the docs and getting that red hot/ice cold medicine applied, how you screamed like a man stripped of all dignity and were further derailed by the fact you recently dated the receptionist at the clinic and that you have to repeat that whole experience twice per week for 6 weeks... I dont want to hear about desolation blues, I want to hear about DHSS blues, I want to hear about bought a staffordshire terrier off a pikey at a motorway service station parking lot blues, if you have to talk about train stations I want to hear about how you got jumped by four hoodies at a train station which was closed as it was after 11pm and you were somehow unaware that by midnight all train stations except london mainline hubs are closed, gated and security camera'd by then... so if you weren't mugged by hoodies you were talked down to by the local 2-man unit on patrol... or the got rumbled by the dibble for trespassing blues. maybe even the 'got caught sticking a negative into my electric metre blues'. Dump the Americana, you're not American and you're not a 70 year old black man. Their struggles are not yours, if I want to hear theirs I'll listen to them.... seem fair? Get on it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Well let's hope that youre putting these songs up for comment. PM has more of a way with words than me, I wouldn't be just as scathing as his review , although I know he's a nice fella and his tongues lodged in his cheek. I'll have to agree with what he says though. The lyrics are letting it down . seems to me that , after listening to your stuff , the same lines are just being repeated in the songs. There's nothing wrong with these lyrics and there's many a guy making records that aren't gonna win the Nobel prize for literature, but after listening to that song , I have no clue as to what the point or emotion behind it is . part of it says how much you like the girl , two lines later her sister will do. I don't really wanna hear a song about buying dogs from gypsies, but I'm still in PM's corner here. Again , let's hope you are looking feedback. Because I haven't written a song , so I can't really say anything. I do know a good song when I hear one though. Keep em coming del . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemaster03 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'd say if you find yourself drifting into a lyric you may have heard before somewhere, stop, reverse, back-up, toot the horn, come at it from a different angle.... This is excellent advice for any genre of music, seems to me. This is not a style of music that I'm real familiar with, Del. Having said that, I enjoyed the heck out of it! Great feel to it and I wish I had that voice - just for a couple songs maybe, then I could go back to my normal nasal whine. I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatbaroque Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Some strong reviews..but with some good points made. You've posted plenty of what I'd rate as good songs here.But as the guys have said sometimes a bit of a well worn path comes into the lyrics. PM is never afraid to speak his mind and what he says about avoiding the cliche is valid.I have a go at writing and do make a conscious effort not to regurgitate what seems to flow easily cause I've heard it work in a song before.Not so easy to do.I fail plenty of times, and a tried and true phrase creeps in. I think when you come up with a good melody the temptation to turn it into a song becomes so strong that the lyrics can become secondary. For want of a bit more inventive thought and determination a good song can end up just ok. I think the Americana criticism is a bit harsh as you don't do much faux stuff in that direction.I don't think playing a bit of blues is faking it.Its universal music we like and enjoy playing. Look at Gillian Welch, she's no hillbilly but a New York born, L.A, educated songwriter yet noone questions her bone fides in regards to writing subjects..I don't think songwriting necessarily needs to be Cinema Verite to the core.Writing can be imagination.Although I would enjoy a song about buying a dog off a gypsy. Keep em coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Although I would enjoy a song about buying a dog off a gypsy. Glad to hear it, me too. PM is never afraid to speak his mind and what he says about avoiding the cliche is valid. Hopefully Del knows I'm not being mean, nor do I play Jazz.... :D I'm only posting an honest critique of what he's done, to be fair he did say the lyrics now were more badger & wine, but I only had the old version to critique so it's based on that version of the lyrics. I did also agree with BBG that it seemed to miss where the point was going and suffer from contradictions in the words. Anyway I'm sure Delboy knows the tone with which I post and I'm not a meanie..... I think the Americana criticism is a bit harsh as you don't do much faux stuff in that direction.I don't think playing a bit of blues is faking it.Its universal music we like and enjoy playing. Look at Gillian Welch, she's no hillbilly but a New York born, L.A, educated songwriter yet noone questions her bone fides in regards to writing subjects..I don't think songwriting necessarily needs to be Cinema Verite to the core.Writing can be imagination.Although I would enjoy a song about buying a dog off a gypsy. Keep em coming. I've no qualms with 'in the style of...' type music, lord knows there's enough of it out there, but as I have said many times, Del can play well and he has a good voice for the genre he's into, the only part for me where it falls is in the lyrics. It sounds in many cases like 'words which work with the tune' rather than a honest song if you know what I mean. I'm sure he'd be the first to say he wanted to be making authentic music, therefore it must be authentic, so the station at midnight and the well worn stuff has to go, replaced by actual tales and details of his encounters, life and stories. Then it will be authentic, I also think it will connect so much more to his audiences and lead to an even better Del all round. Finally, if I thought he was rubbish I wouldn't go to the bother of typing all that, he has the goods, but currently needs to find the lyric magic in himself or start working with someone who's decent at putting lyrics together. P.S. After seeing the pic yesterday, I think in a few years he should do the full beard and get himself on to this site right here Men Who Look Like Kenny Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatbaroque Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 haha...Men who look like Kenny Rogers!..there's a good song title there..........In the pursuit of the hirsute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Yeah, I see where they guys are coming from, but its all because of one thing - coz you've got a ton of talent and should not sell yourself short. Instead you have a resonsibility to make the best of that talent and make it sound distinctively like your own - youre not there yet, but will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Nilppeznaf Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Cheers fellas yeah ..i know..what ya's sayin ir correct...this is from 3 or 4 years ago...I am finally getting my own north yorkshire voice and lyrics...so..i appreciate the feedback just got my first booking from coming back from retirement...happy days...when I have my new stuff recorded..I'll appreciate the thoughts if im becoming real and cheers EA specifically for the faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I liked it a lot. I envy your voice; it has grit and texture. Lyrics? Sheet I don't listen. Probably why I'm still married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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