j45nick Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Embrace it. Go buy a pair of slippers and join the wrinklies I resemble that remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 RS must need to sell a few copies. Oh, weeell. Gives us geezers something to discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarrr Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 As a short ballad type song (1min 58sec), 'This Boy' is maybe the greatest song ever under 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 F6, I believe. Wouldn't it be a G, , ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Wouldn't it be a G, , ? I'll defer to you. I was just cribbing out of my Beatles songbook, which is far from definitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'll defer to you. I was just cribbing out of my Beatles songbook, which is far from definitive. Alrite, , , I'm sure you got the song - and hope I'll be able to sing it about your wife. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Another perspective is to look at the music landscape at the time....well, bland muzak worldwide really, and just open for something to roll over it all.... Pretty similar to the current music climate - corporate poop everywhere. Of course if you dig deep, same now as then - for me, the acoustic blues underground. But I lined up at our local airport with the biggest crowd I have ever seen, to wave at the boys as they landed for some concerts in '64?, but they escaped through the emergency exit on the other side of the airport. BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry K Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 They were a pretty great band and I still like some of their stuff, but in a way they built on the pop starlet and star culture that existed before and marketed themselves as a brand - the hair and all that - which has resulted in some of the sillier excesses in pop music. Britney Spears, whatsername the twerker and so on can really trace their lineage back to the Beatle phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Britney Spears, whatsername the twerker and so on can really trace their lineage back to the Beatle phenomenon. Oh dear - now we await the thread to come full circle by PM declaring : The Fab was a boy-band ! But Jerry, , , showbizzzz and youth-music wasn't invented with The Beatles. Mr. Epstein had a formular, , , which JPGR blew to smithereens within 3 years or so. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The best studio band ever. ......but I think they lost something in their "live" performances. ..... George Harrison was and will always be my favorite of the group. The "quiet" Beatle was very under-rated as a guitar player and songwriter. Every time I saw him on TV after The Beatles broke-up kind of made me like him even more. He came-across more as a average guy than a hotshot performer. He really showed his stuff after the group disbanded. If there's such a thing as "the greatest Beatle," it was George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 They were a pretty great band and I still like some of their stuff, but in a way they built on the pop starlet and star culture that existed before and marketed themselves as a brand - the hair and all that - which has resulted in some of the sillier excesses in pop music. Britney Spears, whatsername the twerker and so on can really trace their lineage back to the Beatle phenomenon. I think you're just pretending you don't know Miley Cyrus' name...... Oh dear - now we await the thread to come full circle by PM declaring : The Fab was a boy-band ! No need to, it's as true today as it was when I first said it here and as it was at the time.... The best studio band ever. ......but I think they lost something in their "live" performances. ..... George Harrison was and will always be my favorite of the group. The "quiet" Beatle was very under-rated as a guitar player and songwriter. Every time I saw him on TV after The Beatles broke-up kind of made me like him even more. He came-across more as a average guy than a hotshot performer. He really showed his stuff after the group disbanded. If there's such a thing as "the greatest Beatle," it was George. Of them all I preferred George & Ringo myself, the only two that didn't really lose the plot.... Everybody waxes on about Lennon, but let's be honest he was a BS talker... dragging out stories like "I told my teacher when I was 5 my ambition was to be happy" and so on... no he didn't, it's not even how children speak at that age and how would he so clearly remember such throwaway comments? He was a soundbite spewer! Nearly every interview he did after the mid 60's were littered with these stories that are just pure fantasy, a lot of them show he was a bit of a dislikeable plonker really. Then there was Macca's faux London accent by 67-68, his candid drugs interview (which even the rest of the group ridiculed him for) and of course by a few years after that his conversion into an old woman was nearly complete. One of the most interesting parts of Anthology for me was the section in George's house with the 3 of them, you can clearly see just how much George and Ringo had very little time for Macca as a person, they played nice for the camera, but look at the eyes in those exchanges, blatantly obvious.... All that said, I'm a huge Beatles fan... but I'd also agree with Jerry, not everything was Golden, there's a few stinkers in there too. The good stuff is incredible though, sometimes extremely simple, sometimes musically complex, always brilliant. I think with the Beatles many often avoid the biggest question that surrounds them. I mean none of the people involved were very tall and given that they were bigger than Jesus doesn't it make you really wonder just how short a fella Jesus was? I mean we must be talking midget proportions here.... boggles the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I love Ringo who had the best back beat in the business but Lennon had one of the best rock & roll voices in the world. I always wondered though if Lennon's Jesus reference and such was not contrived. IN '65 we got LPs by the Fugs (a small label specializing in Spanish speaking records was the only one which would record them) and the Mothers of Invention with Zappa had already been arrested after being set up on conspiracy to make porn or some such charge. You have to wonder if Lennon did not want to kill off that Mop Top image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 ...but Lennon had one of the best rock & roll voices in the world. Recorded, yes. Live, the odd ropey performance actually... but overall I would agree with you. You have to wonder if Lennon did not want to kill off that Mop Top image. I actually just think by that point he was a bit full of himself.... a lot of the speaking footage in the archives he comes across as a smug, sneering individual at times. I'm sure the world will continue to romance him for a whole lot longer, I just find it sort of amusing that most folk reference Lennon's talent, vocals, ideas etc... not many champion him as a nice fella. De-constructing the Beatles is futile though, if you listen to tracks minus the voices, they can seem quirky, weird and not all that amazing. Listen to the vocal tracks minus the lead parts played by George and it can be phenomenally boring. But, all things aside, I doubt anyone will ever challenge their catalogue of quality output. Love them or hate them, their work ethic alone is unrivalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Another part I get huge amusement from was Lennon claiming to hav jammed with Elvis, so while there for a meet & greet, he happened to have jammed with elvis depsite none of the other Beatles present seeing this or remembering it... watch that clip again and check the others eyebrows... a whole host of "no you didn't" being said without actually voicing it... When ye factor in the fantasy stuff from when he was a kid, then the tidbits of BS he spouted during and after the Beatles it would seem fair to say he was a talented guy but also a bit of a Walter Mitty when he had no need to be at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My sweet lord, PM I have learned to accept and live with the fact you don't really like the group. Or should we say get it, , , actually you don't seem to know what neither a boy-band or The Fab is and therefore speak about them like ludipari comments on Gibsons. http://www2.gibson.c...ustic/J-35.aspx Well, , , maybe you see the flower, but don't get the scent and if it should radiate extraordinary colours, they're definitely beyond you. I mean I can remember certain things from when I was 5 so could Lennon and whoever obviously not you. Perhaps that explains it all, , , in the deeper picture. Try to switch on your way of analyzing on any other act band or solo artist, , , and you'll turn into The Death From Lübeck. Happy New Year, , , , mate. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Another part I get huge amusement from was Lennon claiming to hav jammed with Elvis, so while there for a meet & greet, he happened to have jammed with elvis depsite none of the other Beatles present seeing this or remembering it... watch that clip again and check the others eyebrows... a whole host of "no you didn't" being said without actually voicing it... When ye factor in the fantasy stuff from when he was a kid, then the tidbits of BS he spouted during and after the Beatles it would seem fair to say he was a talented guy but also a bit of a Walter Mitty when he had no need to be at all.... All this is what separates a rock n roll star from a talented musician though. Keith's blood changes ,Noel and Liam's fall outs, johnny rotten saying f##k on the BBC , nice guys just dont make am impression. I for one champion this sort of thing. I dont want a boring star. I certainly dont want to go for a drink with any of these guys now that I'm older and have met egotistical men. But you can't be a world famous star without thinking the world revolves around you. Its part and parcel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My sweet lord, PM – I have learned to accept and live with the fact you like the group. Harrison reference, Check.... I got it... Well, , , maybe you see the flower, but don't get the scent – and if it should radiate extraordinary colours, they're definitely beyond you. Why, because I dont want to go on about what a great soul he was? Gobby guy made great records, in fact a lot of my favourite records... what's not to 'get'? Doesn't mean he didn't talk a lot of shite though, there's plenty evidence to back me up. I mean – I can remember certain things from when I was 5 – so could Lennon and whoever – obviously not you. Perhaps that explains it all, , , in the deeper picture. Good god man, if you're going to insult me then don't do a half-arsed job of it, I deserve more respect than that. Either insult me properly or pipe-down sonny. Try to switch on your way of analyzing on any other act – band or solo artist, , , and you'll turn into The Death From Lübeck. Happy New Year, , , , mate. . . What colour is your underwear? Any chance of Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 All this is what separates a rock n roll star from a talented musician though. Keith's blood changes ,Noel and Liam's fall outs, johnny rotten saying f##k on the BBC , nice guys just dont make am impression. I for one champion this sort of thing. I dont want a boring star. I certainly dont want to go for a drink with any of these guys now that I'm older and have met egotistical men. But you can't be a world famous star without thinking the world revolves around you. Its part and parcel. Yep, true, I know, but agreeing with ye at this point just now would ruin this thread for me, let me run with the devils advocate stuff for a while longer till I've really F'd someone off then I'll tell you what I really think. Em7 has started using the large font so I think I have him on the ropes here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I really don't want to start the year fuzzing – especially not over The Fabs. Though a wrestle could be good fun – and growing up in the suburbs of this town made me carry one fierce fighter. . . ☮ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I really don't want to start the year fuzzing – especially not over The Fabs. Oh come on, that's no use to me at all..... The board's half-dead over the last few days. Though a wrestle could be good fun – and growing up in the suburbs of this town made me carry one fierce fighter. . . ☮ Wrestling? Oh good god man, you'll set me off, you know I'm like a moth to a flame when the kinky patter starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 All you need is love, PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Recorded, yes. Live, the odd ropey performance actually... but overall I would agree with you. At Shea, he could have been singing "Popeye the Sailor Man" off key for all I knew. I do recall, however, wishing the Beatles would get it together and tour in 1969 when they could have plugged into Ampeg SVTs or Hiwatts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 All that said, I'm a huge Beatles fan... but I'd also agree with Jerry, not everything was Golden, there's a few stinkers in there too. The good stuff is incredible though, sometimes extremely simple, sometimes musically complex, always brilliant. Coming from you, PM, this is tantamount to Beatlemania! Don't worry, we won't think you're a closet fanboy, although between your shoe fetish and obsession with what others are wearing, you seem to be fascinated by the contents of closets..... "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who do not have it." -G B Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParlourMan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 All you need is love, PM Yep, some cash and a pack of johnnies too…… Bonza! Lets roll sweetheart! Coming from you, PM, this is tantamount to Beatlemania! Don't worry, we won't think you're a closet fanboy, although between your shoe fetish and obsession with what others are wearing, you seem to be fascinated by the contents of closets..... "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who do not have it." -G B Shaw Nick, I've never denied being a fan of the Beatles, I'm a huge fan of the Beatles, have been for rather long time. I don't think any other group ever has come even remotely close to having the same cultural impact, nor has any other groups catalogue been quite as rich. However, the pre-65 years were undoubtedly a nicely packed, loose ends tied boyband. The latter years were a mix of bad hair, bad fashion and great records. You're on the money, Nick, I am fascinated by closets. Given half a chance I'd have a fly sniff at them too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I went into my closet today. Since all the clothes I own take up maybe two drawers I use the closet to stash things. Today I was looking for a box of miscellaneous vacuum tubes. Some of the stuff I moved around during my search included my old leathers with the Triumph patch, a 1950s Silvertone archtop with the top off of it, a 1967 Jefferson Airplane concert poster, an album filled with old New York Central railroad photographs, and a mounted set of antlers which came from a buck my grandfather shot in 1936. All that stuff has got to say something. What though I do not have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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