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On 10/20/2019 at 4:13 AM, Murph said:

Man, you guys need to move to Illinois.

Not a chance.  Love the north Oregon coast & wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.  My wife is on the local school board & the district is quite stable.  Things are always changing in education, as funding ebbs & flows.  With a five-year-old zombie thread like this one, the OP’s school district most likely has totally different issues to contend with.  Never easy, always evolving.

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These people who are watching that channel are being conditioned.  They're tweaking your insecurity and your fears at the same time they repeat the same dishonest stuff over and over.  Rile your fears

I stand corrected. 

Just read my 5 year old zombie response and noticed that I misused the personal pronoun me when I should have said "I" while talking about education. 

😊 I am the product of public education in Arkansas in the 1960's. Yes, we used to say "Thank god for Mississippi." They probably misuse pronouns too.

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The deteriorating state of education in Oregon provides numbers of facilities and a healthy environment for students. There are many issues in  https://haley.blogs.rice.edu/2021/01/26/5-big-issues-in-higher-education/ which need to highlight and students should approach this for best solutions.. They offer scholarships for students on the basis of sports like basketball and also on basis of previous grades.

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1 hour ago, Felicity373 said:

The deteriorating state of education in Oregon provides numbers of facilities and a healthy environment for students. There are many issues in  https://haley.blogs.rice.edu/2021/01/26/5-big-issues-in-higher-education/ which need to highlight and students should approach this for best solutions.. They offer scholarships for students on the basis of sports like basketball and also on basis of previous grades.

So... 7 years later and its worse?! 

What's the projection for 2028?  

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Heh....

I thought the deteriorating state of education was nationwide.  [cool] 

And more of a generational matter than education in general.   For instance, more younger people (Millennial's and so..) actually speak more acronyms than earlier generations.  I've actually heard for several years now, younger members of my family actually SAY, "OMG" ,  "LOL"  and such.   Other "text" acronyms as well.  Sure, there were times in times gone by that  people spoke acronyms, such as, "ASAP" ,  "PDQ" ,  and on the "QT".   But those were limited to specific situations and not a regular part of everyday speech.   And I might be old fashioned (as most soon to be 70 might be)  but I have a problem with the matter of no longer teaching cursive.  Cripes, I still remember when people called it "Script".  [huh]  But then too, when I was in elementary school, we were still being taught ARITHMETIC.  [wink] and not "Math".  [biggrin]

I'm not opposed to change, as long as it's change for the good.

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2 hours ago, Felicity373 said:

The deteriorating state of education in Oregon provides numbers of facilities and a healthy environment for students. There are many issues in  https://haley.blogs.rice.edu/2021/01/26/5-big-issues-in-higher-education/ which need to highlight and students should approach this for best solutions.. They offer scholarships for students on the basis of sports like basketball and also on basis of previous grades.

Welcome.  I'm sure we all appreciate your First Post on this 'timeless issue'.    I must confess I am unclear on what your point it though.    While I'm sure it would be interesting - I'm not going to click on your blog/link to try to figure it out.   We're all friendly here,  so 'out with it' -  Do you feel OR  public education is better - or worse-  today than it was 7 years ago when the OP started this thread?   

I'll add my own anecdote.  Our kids were in public/ grade school in Central Massachusetts THIRTY YEARS ago.  Unionized, not PTA until my wife started one.  Text books were 10 years old.   Teachers had to update as best they could so the kids weren't already behind when they 'graduated'.  After 2 years, we put them in private school.  Moved to Texas a few years later.  Text books up to date, no unions - but same bureaucracy in School Boards and School District administrations led to the same type of poor results.  We had several friends who were teachers who were quitting because they were being forced to pass kids who were not close to a "C".  .  That was the early 90s.   Next iteration was -  eliminate Valedictorians so the rest of the 'graduating' class doesn't feel disrespected.  Today's trend -  Proper English and Basic Math are  vestiges of a culture based on oppression.  Ironically, a UK poster alerted us to this progressive development 7 years ago !    It would appear there is no end in site as we plunge down further into this bottomless pit.  Or, to be more specific - as we throw our children, grandchildren and their futures into the abyss. 

Can't resist one 'current event'.   Today on the news the head of the California Teachers Union was 'outed'.  He has demanded public schools remain closed due to CV-19 until they are safe.  A parent tracked him down and videoed him - he has his kids enrolled in private school where they get actual IN CLASSROOM instruction with a real, live teacher.  So - hypocrisy enables all sorts of behavior.     So - the problem is obvious, and so is the solution. 

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2 hours ago, fortyearspickn said:

Today's trend -  Proper English and Basic Math are  vestiges of a culture based on oppression.....It would appear there is no end in site as we plunge down further into this bottomless pit.  Or, to be more specific - as we throw our children, grandchildren and their futures into the abyss. 

Humoring spam posts aside, that's a lot of doom and gloom about your local public education system.   Maybe consider moving?  I am in New York.  Our students are 1-to-1 with Chromebooks.  That means each and every student is assigned a Chromebook by the district.   The school computer network is blazing fast.  With all the students working from home, we loaned out Internet hotspots to each and every family that needed one. 

Math is taught differently than it was in my day, but know the enemy before you criticize that.  There is plenty to be said for the "new way".   English?  We learn to speak 'Merican here.   I'm proud of my local school district.   Nothing is ever perfect but they run it pretty darn well here. 

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Math is fixing to be overhauled again - and is going to be taught differently in the coming years.   Bill Gates donated $1M to a California organization of educators who are focused on throwing out all current notions of math as anyone on the planet currently understands it. 

The new way will be based on the premise that math should not be 'all about getting the right answer'.  It should consider equally - culture and lifestyles of the under-served.   I guess the 'new way' was just a stepping stone to the final solution.     Blazing Fast Chrome Books aren't going to do much good if the programs and applications are written by people who believe math tests should be Multiple Choice - and the answer is always  "All Of The Above".   

Here's a link to the article discussing the organization that Gates is behind.   https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=16895

 

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29 minutes ago, fortyearspickn said:

Math is fixing to be overhauled again - and is going to be taught differently in the coming years.  

 

When I grew up 2+2=4. It that going to change now?

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I'll be willing to settle for an improvement on grammar.   It helps(in one way)   people to improve their situation.  Like obtaining a better job, even though one might not be really smart enough to do it, but just SOUNDING smart enough is impressive.  It's like that old maxim....

"If you can't blind them with your brilliance, then dazzle them with your bullsh!t!"   [wink]

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1 hour ago, badbluesplayer said:

Now, if they could teach business majors how to do schoolboy arithmetic, the world'd be on track to be a smarter place.

A  Virginia School System pressured the owners of Dr. Seuss to stop publishing several of his books.   How does that fit into the world being on track to be smarter?  

(I'm flattered in a scary way you remember that I  have a business degree. ) 

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6 minutes ago, NighthawkChris said:

I wish we had a section of the forum called the tissue box. You got issues, bring your tissues...

We do its called The Gibson Lounge.

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1 hour ago, fortyearspickn said:

A  Virginia School System pressured the owners of Dr. Seuss to stop publishing several of his books.  

"Loudoun County Public Schools sent us a statement that said in part:

“Dr. Seuss books have not been banned and are available to students in our libraries and classrooms, however, Dr. Seuss and his books are no longer the emphasis of Read Across America Day.”

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18 minutes ago, ghost_of_fl said:

"Loudoun County Public Schools sent us a statement that said in part:

“Dr. Seuss books have not been banned and are available to students in our libraries and classrooms, however, Dr. Seuss and his books are no longer the emphasis of Read Across America Day.”

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Its those damn Star Belly Sneeches with stars upon thar's.

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Sadly much of the education the Public Education Schools, Colleges & Universities in America are & have been teaching for many years is radical Anti America, Socialist, Communist, Anarchy indoctrination of it’s Students...

A very small amount of emphasis is on Reading, Writing & Math anymore.. As is reflected in our World standing with regard to Education..

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Either I didn't pay attention in school or I'm a radical, left-leaning communist and don't know it...  It surprises me how I - as an American citizen and product of public education - got my engineering degree and learned how to do Fourier transforms while learning about some advanced physics concepts...  I know, it was the f'n tin foil hat I always wore in class...  All makes sense now. 

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2 hours ago, fortyearspickn said:

A  Virginia School System pressured the owners of Dr. Seuss to stop publishing several of his books.   How does that fit into the world being on track to be smarter?  

(I'm flattered in a scary way you remember that I  have a business degree. ) 

My dad and son are MBAs.  Son got BS in biz management too.  I remember that kind of thing.  The kid is a gravy train.   👍

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On 2/9/2014 at 2:16 PM, badbluesplayer said:

Kids these days are way smarter than us

No way in hell.  They're Facebook algorithms who can't spell "algorithm". 

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