aliasphobias Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I see peculiarities in this one as well..any takers? http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-GIBSON-ACOUSTIC-GUITAR-LG-1-LG1-1962-W-ORIGINAL-CASE-NO-RESERVE-/171248341958?pt=Guitar&hash=item27df3253c6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Would not know even where to begin on this one. Must have been one of those Friday afternoon I can't wait for the weekend Gibsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Lots of unknowns, including a seller who is clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Not original.. the burst is terrible.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Point out the peculiarities. I see the bridge is maybe not right , what else ? For all us novices in here , teach us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The most obvoius is the serial number location.. on the heel? never seen that done before, Logo should be print, Color is wrong, pickguard , bridge , tuners are wrong.. who know what what done on the inside.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Point out the peculiarities. I see the bridge is maybe not right , what else ? For all us novices in here , teach us. OK, here goes. non-original for sure: bridge, pickguard Odd: FON (?) stamped on neck heel. That may or may not be an FON, but if it is, it should also be stamped on the neck block. Never seen it stamped on the heel. But, it may be some other number added after construction, which may be the reason Gibson dated it to 1962. Now to confuse matters: 1946 logo, with what looks like a suitable amount of wear on the face of the headstock. 19-fret board, which says prior to mid-1950's on this model (I think). Lots of lower-end Gibsons from 1946 did not have an FON, so the number on the neck heel could be something else entirely. Burst: maybe original, maybe not. Lot of reflections on it when you blow it up, and it's not real good, but I've seen plenty of original ones that were worse. People tend to think of the Gibson burst in terms of the modern subtle fade, but lots of vintage bursts had pretty hard transitions. Look at some of the guitars in Tom Barnwell's collection for comparison. The whole guitar has a bit of a re-finished look, but you'd need to see it in the flesh to know. I note that it has a back centerline cleat, which may suggest LG 2 rather than LG 1, but others who have had both guitars may correct this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I cant ask the seller if this is X braced.. all Lg1 and 0s were ladder braced. they never had a back center strip.. by the looks of the binding on the back.. I bet the back was removed as well.. good one to learn from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayyj Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Bridge does not look Gibson-like in design - although there were some horrendous late 60s / early 70s bridge designs not a million miles away. It'd be interesting to see what state the top is in underneath. The rosette is too close to the edge of the soundhole, which suggests the soundhole has been enlarged, or even that the top has been replaced entirely - hard to know which without measurements. The guitar has a back strip, which was used on the LG2 but not the LG1 - although this could have been added. The LG1 was an entirely different guitar in the early 40s, with an X braced Mahogany top - I believe a couple of regulars own examples of the early version - but I don't know if there was a crossover of old script logo LG1s that had ladder braced Spruce tops. No indication of how this top is braced. Is that a Maple neck I see? That would potentially tie up with a war era guitar. I've never seen a serial number stamped into the heel like that. The headstock looks oversprayed and the whole guitar refinished, and the pickguard is not original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The most obvoius is the serial number location.. on the heel? never seen that done before, Logo should be print, Color is wrong, pickguard , bridge , tuners are wrong.. who know what what done on the inside.. C'mon, give the seller some credit. The single line enclosed Kluson (in this case at least Kluson-like) strip tuners are correct for that guitar. They may be the only thing kosher about it. The case ain't even original to an early 1960s Gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 C'mon, give the seller some credit. The single line enclosed Kluson (in this case at least Kluson-like) strip tuners are correct for that guitar. They may be the only thing kosher about it. The case ain't even original to an early 1960s Gibson. I got those single lines on a stella if that helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliasphobias Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Center strip, 2 piece back, logo, bridge, 'guard were what struck me. I am a novice as well but enjoy the mysterious entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 sorry, double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j45nick Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The case ain't even original to an early 1960s Gibson. Didn't even mention that one, but of course your are right. Not many LG 1's even came with a hard case, much less one that is pretty clearly modern and probably Asian. I would like to look at the guitar. I love a good mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Didn't even mention that one, but of course your are right. Not many LG 1's even came with a hard case, much less one that is pretty clearly modern and probably Asian. Have you seen what those 1940s and 1950s brown Lifton cases that fit an LG go for? Hard as heck to find and when you do stumble across one be prepared to dig pretty deep into your wallet. Did you notice though the seller of the guitar is a pawn shop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Above: known post war script logo on left, seller's listing on right. 'Never seen the "G"(fat lower serif) in the logo done like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I always wonder if folks really don't know (which is hard to believe with the amount of info available) or are they figuring they can come back at the seller with a "not as described" complaint and possibly get a good chunk of what they lay out for the guitar back. That though would not make a lot of sense as I am assuming both this one and that cherry burst J-35 have very little value. I don't see how you would come out a head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningham26 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 The first things I noticed were that the bridge looks huge and not really refined, and that logo was clearly drawn on in marker- you can see the streaks and thin spots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Above: known post war script logo on left, seller's listing on right. 'Never seen the "G"(fat lower serif) in the logo done like that. Good catch, 62! --I hadn't noticed that initially. That logo is way off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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