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Well damn. That rules out my thoughts about emailing the guy. :rolleyes:[biggrin][thumbdn]

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I've actually had to photograph equally strange lumps of wood with, on the face of it, similarly outlandish 'Provenance' so won't comment on that part of it.

I do love, however, the effort he/she has made to distance themselves from any possible accusation that they knew what they were doing...

...In my opinion...THIS...GUITAR...IS SUPER UNIQUE HAND MADE,?...

...LOVINGLY HAND MADE looking to me...

...My gut felt personal opinionated feelings...a basic non-professional guitar owner...this...seems to shout out...

...may give a clue to experts...

...it appears to me in my amateur guitar, basic knowledge...

...this could be..

...I am not a professional guitarist or Lutherie and can not perfectly describe it so you are buying as is...


It may be recently made from old orange boxes but as far as his description is concerned no-one buying this thing would have a leg to stand on by way of complaint.



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It's nothing I'd care for at this point in my life - and I kick myself every time I see something like this because back in the early '70s I came across a 1930s Washburn parlor guitar that had fallen apart and I was slowly messing with until - we moved and it got tossed. As I said, I kick myself.


Seriously though, this is the kind of piece that should be in a museum near where it had been crafted, or played. I've been involved with museum boards for some years now, and if there's documentation of who and how - it's the kind of thing that offers an interesting window into the past. What wood, what design, what tuning concepts, etc., etc. It's best with a "who made it," but even something like, "Bill Smith played this in the early 1900s while working on John Smith's farm 10 miles southwest of Centertown. It went to his nephew Clarence who kept it in his hardware store at ____ until it closed... etc."


I guarantee such a piece around here, with the provenance included, would be valued.


I'll admit, though, that as a "pay money for it" piece, I'd not have the slightest idea of value. With provenance it could be worth a few bucks or tens of thousands - the provenance giving more value than the piece itself.


An example, an 1880s Colt .45 single action in good condition probably would be "worth" mid to higher four figures depending on where - perhaps depending on the piece, into five figures. But I know of one that was brought up the trail from Texas in the 1890s by a 13-year-old cowboy who ended up as the papa of a local ranching family. With that provenance... it's priceless and various friends have been trying to get it for the local museum. Another... a Colt 1917 revolver my Dad carried in WWII. Mom and Grandpa got it for him 'cuz of supply problems apparently. My eldest nephew, an Army National Guard senior officer, got it from me. Value? I dunno. I don't worry about it 'cuz it's where it should be.



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and.. there is nothing to validate that this is what he says it is.


and from his description, seems to me he's trying too hard to convince the world it's worth the money.


it would take a seriously gifted fool to bid on this one.

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...back in the early '70s I came across a 1930s Washburn parlor guitar that had fallen apart and I was slowly messing with until - we moved and it got tossed. As I said, I kick myself...

Milo; I saw this last week and "...the memory lingers on" as it were;


c1915 Washburn.




For sale at the moment from George Gruhn in his 'Sold As Seen' selection. AM7054 if anyone is tempted.


"cosmetically VG+, 13 7/8" wide, Brazilian rosewood back and sides, abalone top trim and back stripe, fancy fingerboard inlay, pearl-button tuners, needed repairs include: reglue 8 back braces, X-brace and 2 finger braces, new bridge plate, reset neck, refret, reglue fingerboard inlays, SC."


If I were a luthier and lived Stateside? I wouldn't hesitate. Even if the $2,000 asking price seems steep.............it isn't.


P. .

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Looks like who ever built that P O S needs to talk to Rabs on how to build a home made "geeter" as the seller calls it

Really though, no information what so ever on the item, plus his arrogant attitude, I am surprised he has any bids on it at all. Last time I looked, there were 2 bids he declined.

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I'm sure that I saw that "Geetar" on E-bay at least a couple of years ago and judging by the wording of the description etc.,it was posted by the same simpleton.That thing could never in any stretch be classed as a musical instrument,with the way it's constructed it would be practically impossible to develop it from the way it is into a playable musical instrument-the thing is nothing but a poor,inept attempt at folk art and I doubt there was ever an intention by the original maker to turn it into a serious musical instrument.

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