mike tango Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Thanks for contacting us. Gibson Memphis indicated that the ES-195 actually underwent some spec changes prior to being discontinued- they got 57 Classic humbuckers instead of P-94’s, Klusons on a strap instead of mini Grovers and a TonePros AVR2-G instead of the roller bridge. It looks like your guitar is one of the ES-195 models with the spec changes prior to discontinuation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike tango Posted May 8, 2014 Author Share Posted May 8, 2014 So you can order a gibson, they can change the specs as they see fit and that's is ok??? WTF. I think this guitar is going back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Wow. Where did you buy it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Discontinued, eh? So it was in production for about 18 months or less....But that's how they do things these days. I can easily understand why you are...hmmm...dissatisfied....I would be too. Very much. A roller bridge is better with a Bigsby. On the other hand it is probably still a fine instrument - will you be able to find a pre-spec change one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyl51 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Gibson is really going down the tubes.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie69 Posted May 9, 2014 Share Posted May 9, 2014 Hi guys; if they go on modifying the ES195 they will meet what many customers are waiting for: ES195 without Bigsby and with Classic 57. It will be closer to an ES137 Custom ,but with a more friendly Neck and if they keep the Amber finish and a decent price they will sell thousands. The present model is filling the on line shops stores( in Europe at least); it seems that the customers are not crazy about this model as they were with the first batches of ES339 some years ago ( no one was to be seen for months after the sale of the first batches in some weeks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike tango Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share Posted May 9, 2014 I bought it at Long and Mcquade in Canada. Luckily, l & M know the value of a customer and have ordered the right pickups and the right bridge for me. I understand that Gibson can change specs on a model, but not on a guitar that is already ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike tango Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share Posted May 10, 2014 Hi guys; if they go on modifying the ES195 they will meet what many customers are waiting for: ES195 without Bigsby and with Classic 57. It will be closer to an ES137 Custom ,but with a more friendly Neck and if they keep the Amber finish and a decent price they will sell thousands. The present model is filling the on line shops stores( in Europe at least); it seems that the customers are not crazy about this model as they were with the first batches of ES339 some years ago ( no one was to be seen for months after the sale of the first batches in some weeks) i thought the 137 had a cener block. the 195 is fully hollow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie69 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 +1 yes you are right, I was referring more to she shape and size. I tried an ES195 and was really enthusiastic,it could have be perfect for my taste but I do not use a Bigsby (althought I admit that it looks stunning on this guitar!!) and I appreciated the P94 sound but I like more the classic 57. I have been also amazed by the sustain ; I' ve always thought that guitars with a center block had more sustain than hollow bodies , may be on the 195 the sustain comes from the taipiece ? I had noticed that on my epi Emperor. If one has the use of the Bigsby , this guitar is a good choice, a pleasure to play lighter than the 137. I hope Gibson will coninue this model, with the present specs or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I hate to bump an old thread, but this is the top Google result for a search on the ES195 with Classic 57 pickups and the other late-run parts. I have one and love it. I like P90s just fine, but I wouldn’t have bought this guitar without humbuckers. As it is, it’s a slim 175. It’s great for rock, and is easily my favorite guitar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 This thread stared 6 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Sgt. Pepper said: This thread stared 6 years ago. Yet it’s still the only correct reference to the particular version of guitar I own and use, on the manufacturer’s forum, so there is some value to continuing the discussion. It’s OK, the database can handle it. When I bought mine on Reverb, the seller posted some line about how it was a custom order for a endorsed artist, which it’s clearly not; it exactly matches the late-run specs. It’s an excellent, humbucker-equipped, Bigsby-equipped hollow body rock guitar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Pepper Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I was on the edge for 6 years and now I will get a good nights sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoCee Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I bought this guitar at Music-Go-Round for a darn good price. I love everything about it but the pickups. I was thinking about installing some Classic 57s so I searched if anyone had done this. From this page I now see that Gibson made this change in the factory. This is good to know. I like the P94s, but not on this guitar. Looks like I'll be ordering some 57s; but the roller bridge and Bigsby are staying. Thanks for the info! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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