meaux Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Trying to avoid buying a Chinese Copy... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epiphone-Archtop-Casino-Electric-Guitar-/111359155256?pt=Guitar&hash=item19ed85dc38#ht_57wt_1039
meaux Posted May 20, 2014 Author Posted May 20, 2014 Disregard the question... I bought the dang thing...
cunningham26 Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Trying to avoid buying a Chinese Copy... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Epiphone-Archtop-Casino-Electric-Guitar-/111359155256?pt=Guitar&hash=item19ed85dc38#ht_57wt_1039 A serial number cross checked with this post would give you some good info. I'd go as far to say that you're somewhat safe with archtop guitars being genuine- they're complicated to make and therefore fake inexpensively, and the ones I've seen post lawsuit-era are so stupidly-copied you'd have to be blind AND deaf to think it was real. Just my opinion, others might have diff experiences. Can't be too safe though, and we're always happy to have a look!
capmaster Posted May 20, 2014 Posted May 20, 2014 Want to add here I prefer taking a look at legit ones. Post pics after her arrival, please.
Kurt Vonnegut Fan Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 The guitar was made Dec 2011 at the Gibson/Epi owned QingDao factory so it is NOT a copy Unfortunately, there have been countless counterfeits with legitimate-looking serial numbers, as many members can attest. Identifying fakes can often be difficult. At this point the guitar in question is of indeterminate origin.
meaux Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 Sooo, since serial numbers aren't reliable, the only things I have going for me is: 'ArchTops are difficult to make', and 'Why copy an Epiphone when a Gibson Copy will bring more dollars'... Are there any other 'Clues'? I'll post pictures when I get it... Thanks...
meaux Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 I checked out the Chinese 'Fake Market' and DHGate had 1 for $308 then said 'sold out'... TradeTang was another... Found a couple more but they didn't look like Casinos... 3 Pickups and an extra Toggle Switch w/ neck joining body at 19th fret WTF?... It's really hard to find a Natural Casino even from the China bootleggers, heck, theres more on EBay... Meanwhile there are thousands of Phoney Les Pauls... I'm guessin' they don't pump em' out like Gibsons... Anyway, I'll be posting Picks of what I bought Tuesday or Wednesday... Thanks...
cunningham26 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 I'd recommend not going down a rabbit hole of counterfeit until you've held yours in your hands and looked it all over. I've had that pit in the stomach feeling with a few that I've bought that ended up being fine. There might be small variables, China has uniformed the process from the days of multiple factories, but those little differences are part and parcel of the Gibson experience. If something looks genuinely off, you have buyers protection with eBay. Check it over, post pics, and try to enjoy the feeling of having a new guitar on the way!
deeman Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 It's not a Chinese fake, but a made in china authentic.
meaux Posted May 22, 2014 Author Posted May 22, 2014 I'd recommend not going down a rabbit hole of counterfeit until you've held yours in your hands and looked it all over. I've had that pit in the stomach feeling with a few that I've bought that ended up being fine. There might be small variables, China has uniformed the process from the days of multiple factories, but those little differences are part and parcel of the Gibson experience. If something looks genuinely off, you have buyers protection with eBay. Check it over, post pics, and try to enjoy the feeling of having a new guitar on the way! I'm trying... I haven't bought anything off EBay in a few years... It's seemed to have turned into more of a Retail Outlet than an Auction... I used to buy Fender Bodies and Necks dirt cheep and put em' together... Family shot 2004
meaux Posted May 22, 2014 Author Posted May 22, 2014 It's not a Chinese fake, but a made in china authentic. Now thats funny... At first I was wondering, 'What difference does it make'? Then I found out about the Gibson/Epi Factory...
meaux Posted May 23, 2014 Author Posted May 23, 2014 Shitty Pics but this just in... The thing looks brand spankin' new... Not narry a scratch... Exceeding my expectations... Now, time to Lennonize...
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