BluesKing777 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 So, the Beatles came to Australia the year before they went to America. I was among the throng waiting outside the airport after somehow talking my Father out of boating for the day to take me and my brother to line the streets near the airport with half the population! http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/how-the-beatles-came-on-tour-to-australia-nearly-50-years-ago/story-fni0bvjn-1226929182904 BluesKing777.
retrorod Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I am fairly certain that you are not THAT old...BK...C'mon???? Hell, I was a military brat in Bermuda in '64 (11) when they hit...
BluesKing777 Posted May 24, 2014 Author Posted May 24, 2014 I was old for my years (7 1/2). Nearly 8! With a few guys from school, we knew everything about the Beatles! How bizarre, but that is what The Beatles did to the world, isn't it? I wouldn't line up for anything now, nothing....but we stood on the side of the road to the airport with 300,000 others (incredible) ready to scream, but The Beatles chickened out of facing the crowd and took the back (emergency) exit to avoid it all, and here is the kicker.....my brother and I have always blamed Dad for missing them, because of his habit do driving past anything we really wanted (Ice Cream etc), and missing the band go past was obviously another of his tricks..... Nobody mentioned going to the concert, but I doubt we even knew what that was! All very, very weird. And I knew everything because.....I was already learning guitar! BluesKing777. PS. I suppose I better go through my Beatles book in a moment! I don't care what anyone thinks - The Beatles tunes are way better for acoustic guitar versions than The Stones, apart from possibly Angie.....
livemusic Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Cool. And yes, Beatles are way better on acoustic than Stones.
vacamartin Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Man, you guys are youngins! I saw them in 64.......what a crazy memory!
zombywoof Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 But touring and breaking big in the States was the big enchilada for the British bands. And they all seemed to wait on that until they had a record that was selling well and getting tons of airplay.
zombywoof Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Cool. And yes, Beatles are way better on acoustic than Stones. Hmmm, I take it you never spun Beggar's Banquet on a turntable.
zombywoof Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Cool. And yes, Beatles are way better on acoustic than Stones. Hmmm, I take it you have never spun Beggar's Banquet on a turntable. I will say that John Lennon was one of the greatest rhythm players in history (as well as having one of the greatest voices in rock & roll). But you also have to remember that Keef, loving his blues, taught himself to fingerpick very early on while Brian Jones was one of the few guys playing slide in Britain. By the way "Jumping Jack Flash" was recorded using all acoustic guitars.
vacamartin Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I will say that John Lennon was one of the greatest rhythm players in history (as well as having one of the greatest voices in rock & roll). Amen!
jedzep Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I'm not sure about how the Beatles/Stones acoustic comparison sits with me. Since the Stones so outlasted the Beatles I guess you could compare both of their early work. The Stones never wrote anything like 'Things We Said Today', but the Beatles didn't have anything in the 'Good Times Bad Times' or 'Heart of Stone' genre. They were very different, which made it extra great to have both available. BK, I just want to know what it was like being surrounded by 299,997 girls.
RichG Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 That's funny about all the girls. I saw the Beatles at Forest HillsTennis stadium in 1964. My father somehow got 4 tickets because my 15 year old sister and her friend wanted to go, so I got elected to drive the 62 Falcon in to Forest Hills with two 15 year old girls and my girlfriend. We were 18. The police were not letting anyone even near the stadium unless you showed a ticket. At one checkpoint I heard a cop tell his buddy that " so far that's two guys" referring to me. There was so much screaming I never heard a note after the first chord.......But I was there! Rich
DanvillRob Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I've seen both acts live, stones in 65 & 66, Beatles in 66. Saying one is better than the other is like saying peanut butter is better than Van Gogh.
zombywoof Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I saw the Stones at the Academy of Music in '65 and the Beatles at Shea in '66 (well kinda saw them). Both times I got tickets from the father of a friend who had something to do with the shows and took us to them. The Beatles were about interweaving vocals, the Stones about interweaving guitars. And both had great drummers although in my opinion Charlie Watts is the best drummer in rock & roll period.
jedzep Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 I've seen both acts live, stones in 65 & 66, Beatles in 66. Saying one is better than the other is like saying peanut butter is better than Van Gogh. Right, but the comparison was more of which band had more convertable electric to acoustic songs, not which was better. I think it's a wash if you add up the early songs. Here's two from each that I love to play. I'd gladly share if I had better technology. Stones- 'Salt of the Earth', and 'I Got the Blues (For You)', and from the Beatles- 'In My Life', and 'Don't Let Me Down'. Peanut butter is better when you have no food, and Van Gogh is better when your soul is hungry, unless you don't have one, in which case peanut butter wins.
BluesKing777 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Posted May 25, 2014 Right, but the comparison was more of which band had more convertable electric to acoustic songs, not which was better. Thanks JZ, that is what I meant...and I have spend an inordinate amount of time doing just that converting to fingerpicking guitar/vocal everything I can get my hands on! First we have our memory, then we have our ears, then TABs. I have the incredible book recommended by Drathbun - "The Beatles Complete SCORES" with supposedly every single note they recorded as the Beatles...1000 plus pages of miniature Tab/Music. Even the weirdo noises are Tabbed! For example, I was just working on an acoustic version of "Revolution" with the authentic E riff at the end of each chorus - works on acoustic nicely and would surprise some people but I am not ever going to show it to you! (Mainly because of the vocal). Stones dont have anything this accurate in print - I have everything done over the years. I am frightenly close to becoming popular entertainment at the old folks home with the syrupy Beatle numbers on acoustic, so hence Revolution/Birthday/I Want You/Helter Skelter are all getting a tryout. (The riffs are in the book above if you have a magnifying glass..... BluesKing777. PS. Oh and JZ, I never got any where near the 300,000 girls at the airport in 63 - we were parked out on the road miles away - as close as Dad would take us - luckily, because by the sound of things shown on TV since, we would have all been.........(soaked).
zombywoof Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 By coincidence I will be doing some sitting in with a couple of bands over the coming weeks. With one I will be playing the Stones "Prodigal Son," "You Got the Silver," and "No Expectations." The other is, of all things, a bluegrass band who tapped me for the Beatles "I've Just Seen a Face." Gotta admit that song works great with a banjo thrown in.
BluesKing777 Posted May 25, 2014 Author Posted May 25, 2014 By coincidence I will be doing some sitting in with a couple of bands over the coming weeks. With one I will be playing the Stones "Prodigal Son," "You Got the Silver," and "No Expectations." The other is, of all things, a bluegrass band who tapped me for the Beatles "I've Just Seen a Face." Gotta admit that song works great with a banjo thrown in. Sounds like some fun coming up for you! Electric or acoustic, ZW? 'I've Just Seen A Face" would be hard work keeping that shuffle feel going but not many changes.... I've been a fan of Robert Wilkins for many years (Prodigal Son or That's No Way To Get Along as I know it). BluesKing777.
zombywoof Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Sounds like some fun coming up for you! Electric or acoustic, ZW? BluesKing777. All acoustic. I was figuring on playing the LG-2 for the Stones stuff and the B45-12 for the Beatles tune, I have been asked to play electric lap steel on the Beatles "For You Blue." Might just use as Bic lighter for a slide.
BluesKing777 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 All acoustic. I was figuring on playing the LG-2 for the Stones stuff and the B45-12 for the Beatles tune, I have been asked to play electric lap steel on the Beatles "For You Blue." Might just use as Bic lighter for a slide. Ha ha! Lighter only works for ciggies. They should have asked me along - I have been mucking around with various versions of For You Blue.... I was just doing the backing guitar as per my Beatles full scores book and it has a nice little segment played like an E blues thing with a capo on the 5th fret - sounds better than slide on it's own..... Has the bluesy hammer on 3rd string open to 1st fret..... BluesKing777. Edit: Wiki says the track features John Lennon on lap steel using a shotgun shell as a bottleneck!
zombywoof Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Ha ha! Lighter only works for ciggies. They should have asked me along - I have been mucking around with various versions of For You Blue.... Edit: Wiki says the track features John Lennon on lap steel using a shotgun shell as a bottleneck! Wiki is open source and as such is notorious for being riddled with errors. Lennon is using a Bic lighter. I would love to have you drop by. I have a feeling that would truly be a whole lot of fun. My only problem would be anticipating which of your guitars you would bring.
E-minor7 Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 I was among the throng waiting outside the airport. . . . Bless you BK777 - did you glimpse them. . .
BluesKing777 Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 Bless you BK777 - did you glimpse them. . . Nope! Perhaps a glimpse of a black limousine waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the other side of the airport. Or did I 'imagine' that? Same with the Queen of England on her tour about the same time - we HAD to go line the streets from school, and waved our little flags, then ...Whoosh....black limo flat out past us! BluesKing777.
E-minor7 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Nope! Perhaps a glimpse of a black limousine waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the other side of the airport. Or did I 'imagine' that? Same with the Queen of England on her tour about the same time - we HAD to go line the streets from school, and waved our little flags, then ...Whoosh....black limo flat out past us! BluesKing777. Too bad - Sure hope your life didn't pass in the same manner. . .
BluesKing777 Posted May 28, 2014 Author Posted May 28, 2014 Thanks Em7....my life didn't pass in the same manner, but I may still be learning those Beatles tunes, among other blues and rags and..... These have been mentioned here before, but they are so cool they could be....FAB! If you almost know how to do the Beatles songs, but need a few more bits, these youtube demonstrations are great....Beatles Guitar Secrets! BluesKing777.
Gralst Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 So, the Beatles came to Australia the year before they went to America. I was among the throng waiting outside the airport after somehow talking my Father out of boating for the day to take me and my brother to line the streets near the airport with half the population! http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/music/how-the-beatles-came-on-tour-to-australia-nearly-50-years-ago/story-fni0bvjn-1226929182904 BluesKing777. Ermmm... The Beatles' (with only three actual "Beatles" (Google: "Jimmy Nichol") until the third Australian show in Melbourne on 15 June 1964) arrived in Adelaide on 12 June 1964. which was like four months after they hit America.
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