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I bought a new Inspired By John Lennon sunburst Casino a couple of weeks ago, and I'm loving it. But there are a couple of areas

that are letting me down. From what I could find online, these are common issues, and it seems like there are what has become

standard fixes for these problems.

 

The nut, and bridge seem to be the ultimate culprits. I'm planning on adding a B3 Bigsby to it (to make it more like George's), and

have been looking at Schaller bridges. There is also a nut made with a zero fret on it, and that would be my preference.

 

Has anybody else added a Bigsby to their Casino, and switched out the bridge & nut? How did it go, and what did you use as

replacements?

 

Thanks,

Joe

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Fist off, congratulations, on your purchase! Great guitars!

How "historically" correct, do you want it, to "George's?"

A bone nut, and nylon saddles (in the bridge) would be more

period/historically correct, to his guitar.

 

However, if you want near "flawless" performance, with the added

bigsby, I'd put in a good roller bridge, and roller nut, and locking

tuners.

 

Good Luck, with whatever you decide to do, and enjoy your Casino! [thumbup]

 

CB

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Fist off, congratulations, on your purchase! Great guitars!

How "historically" correct, do you want it, to "George's?"

A bone nut, and nylon saddles (in the bridge) would be more

period/historically correct, to his guitar.

 

However, if you want near "flawless" performance, with the added

bigsby, I'd put in a good roller bridge, and roller nut, and locking

tuners.

 

Good Luck, with whatever you decide to do, and enjoy your Casino! [thumbup]

 

CB

Hi CB, thanks for the insight on what's correct and what's not. I'm looking into the Schaller roller bridge, for ease of use

and German craftsmanship . Even Schaller tuners, but I wouldn't use locking ones, I just don't fancy them. Schaller are

my favorite tuners of them all.

 

I own 3 vintage Gretsches, 1 new pro series, and 1Korean made, which I won 2008. These new Epiphones are very well

constructed, so much so, I've an Epi ES295 in lay-a-way, and am considering a Sheraton 2 for next year. I owned a

Sheraton MIJ in the mid 1980s, it was amazing.

 

Joe

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The Bigsby on George's Casino is a B7 rather than a B3 - this is true of all but the very earliest ES330s, which shipped with B3s. The B3 (and B6, which is a longer base version of the B3) can often work well on Casinos but they leave a very shallow break angle over the bridge - and occasionally simply don't fit depending on the neck set of the guitar. B7 is the best route if you're not worried about permanently modding the guitar and are looking for the authentic vibe.

 

Having half a dozen Bigsby loaded guitars in my collection and set up many more, my conclusion when it comes to Bigsby tuning issues is that, as long as the nut is cut properly and the guitar well set up, if they're strung with the sort of tension they were designed fod they hold their tuning as well as any other system. The problem comes when you try to set them up with 9s and the arm ends up not returning to the same position every time when released. I use 10-52s on my Bigsby guitars and tuning stability is pretty good. Les Pauls, Wild Kats ets add a further problem due to the closeness of the Bigsby to the bridge causing a lot of downward pressure on the bridge, and making string binding more of an issue.

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I had a B7 installed on my Elitist a year or so ago. I have 3 other guitars with Bigsby's and none of the 4 have a roller bridge. I don't have any tuning issues, but then again, I don't dive bomb with the Bigsby either, just subtle movements. If nothing else, it looks b itchin' [biggrin]

 

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I had a B7 installed on my Elitist a year or so ago. I have 3 other guitars with Bigsby's and none of the 4 have a roller bridge. I don't have any tuning issues, but then again, I don't dive bomb with the Bigsby either, just subtle movements. If nothing else, it looks b itchin' [biggrin]

 

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That's a beautiful setup.

Well, I was "influenced" by a couple of British guys from the mid '60's. That said, this guitar is my absolute fav to play, and if the house ever catches fire, this will be in one hand (probably two small dogs in the other LOL).

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The B7 is the way to go.

 

Also crazy parts in Germany do lots of USA and German made parts that would be direct replacements. I don't get why you would want to change the essence if the guitar for issues that's can be easily resolved with like for like parts of better quality

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