jannusguy2 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Snagged this today. Solid player. Guessing a little on the year but I think it's a '47. No FON, script logo, pearloid markers, should have bound fretboard but doesn't. A couple of cleated top cracks, overspray on back/sides from long ago, replaced but correct tuners and replaced pick guard. Plays like butter. Big sound, great tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunningham26 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 whoa. absolute beauty love me a solid player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Yeah, she won't win any beauty contests but man can she sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 . Nice get. Looks to be in tasty shape. Congrats. . B) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hey JG; nice SJ!! I'm a little confused as to what you mean by "nice player" -- to me that guitar looks ("looks") to be in pretty fine shape, not what I would consider "player grade" necessarily. I see what appears to be original bridge or else an excellent replica, minor wear around the soundhole and south of the pickguard, possible wear on the lower bass bout (?) and an original pickguard -- overall, looks to be in nice shape. Am I missing something? Fred (happy SJ owner myself!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hey JG; nice SJ!! I'm a little confused as to what you mean by "nice player" -- to me that guitar looks ("looks") to be in pretty fine shape, not what I would consider "player grade" necessarily. I see what appears to be original bridge or else an excellent replica, minor wear around the soundhole and south of the pickguard, possible wear on the lower bass bout (?) and an original pickguard -- overall, looks to be in nice shape. Am I missing something? Fred (happy SJ owner myself!) Hey Fred, she looks pretty at a distance. There's a cleated center seam crack + another 3 repaired cracks on the top, a repaired dent just at the lower right side of the pick guard (which is a replacement). All the work was pro done. The guy I bought it from has had it for 20 yrs and most of the work was done before he got it. Tuner replacement, overspray on back & sides all over 20 yrs. old. I think she's purty but she's had a life of playing! Which is only right, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambler Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Nice one, Rob! A slope or LG from this period would be near the top my vintage, er 'if-horses-could-fly", wish list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hey Fred, she looks pretty at a distance. There's a cleated center seam crack + another 3 repaired cracks on the top, a repaired dent just at the lower right side of the pick guard (which is a replacement). All the work was pro done. The guy I bought it from has had it for 20 yrs and most of the work was done before he got it. Tuner replacement, overspray on back & sides all over 20 yrs. old. I think she's purty but she's had a life of playing! Which is only right, right? Ok -- gotcha! Photos are only as good as the quality of the images. From the distance depicted in the photos, she looks pretty good. My best guitar is a player too, hence the name, I guess! What leans you toward calling it a '47, rather than a '46? Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Nice. '46 were thought of as having the unbound fretboard, but you're thinking pearloid fret markers? Puts you back to '47 where they changed from mop. What's your nut width? 1-11/16"? That would mostly be a '47 thing. Isn't trying to figure out Gibsons fun? Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Joy to see ! Give her a good spot in your home. Strum on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 8, 2014 Author Share Posted July 8, 2014 Anyone have a 2014 Vintage Buyer Price guide? I don't have one newer than 2011. I'd be curious to know what the hi/low is on this these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Cool guitar, Rob. Looks like a real winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wouldn't the bridge originally have been straight or a reverse-belly, rather than a Martin-like belly down bridge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wouldn't the bridge originally have been straight or a reverse-belly, rather than a Martin-like belly down bridge? Some periods during WW2 and shortly after had belly-down bridges on SJs, and on some (very few) J-45s too. Fred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Beautiful, JG2! Most of your guitars previously look fairly new - is this your oldest guitar? BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Beautiful, JG2! Most of your guitars previously look fairly new - is this your oldest guitar? BluesKing777. It is now. I have a 1951 J45 and a 1960 D 18. I had a 1931 017 but sold that last year. This is the first guitar from the 40s that I've owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Wouldn't the bridge originally have been straight or a reverse-belly, rather than a Martin-like belly down bridge? From Gruhn's Guide to Vintage Guitars: P. 158: Belly below bridge, bound fingerboard (absent on this one), pearloid double parallelogram inlays, no banner on peg head. 1946 It hits all the marks except the bound finger board. So, I guess either 46 or 47. Here's a pic of my '53 SJ (sold) and my '51 J45. Belly up on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Snagged?! That implies you stumbled upon it in a pawn shop and the doddering old owners didn't know how valuable it was. Let's cut to the chase...how much it cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 Snagged?! That implies you stumbled upon it in a pawn shop and the doddering old owners didn't know how valuable it was. Let's cut to the chase...how much it cost? I got it for half of what I sold my '53 for. Local seller, listed yesterday on the net and he didn't want to ship it anywhere. Serendipity. I planned to flip it but it sounds great. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedzep Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Sorry...that's not an answer. Inquiring minds and all, but if you don't want to share, that's OK too. A keeper, unless one can afford to swap and shop these vintage gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfbird Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The Vintage Guitar guide 2014 says: SJ (Southern Jumbo) 1942-1944 9,600-12,000 1948-1949 5,600 - 7,000 No idea why there's no listing for 1945-1947. But the 2013 edition is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 The Vintage Guitar guide 2014 says: SJ (Southern Jumbo) 1942-1944 9,600-12,000 1948-1949 5,600 - 7,000 No idea why there's no listing for 1945-1947. But the 2013 edition is the same. Hmmn, that's weird. I just went back an looked at my 2012 version and it does the same thing. Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Your Karma must be in good shape. A very good find. I know more than a few Gibson freaks who will swear all day long that the best guitars to ever roll out of the Daylight Plant were those made between 1946 and 1949. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 I sent some pics to John Thomas. He thinks 1946 but says there's no way to be absolutely certain. Probably going to spring for a Gruhn appraisal to get some sense of its value for insurance purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Am looking for the thread where jannusguy said he wasn't buying any more guitars... can't seem to find it. maybe I've imagined it ? nice guitar Mr. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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