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Possible late 1940's J-50???


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Can anybody tell me the year of the j50 I just purchased off ebay and if I got a deal. I paid 3500 flat. FON number 9307 3 on neck block. There are two hairline cracks in the back that have been repaired. Other than that it is in incredible condition.

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Nice find! That FON, plus all the visible characteristics, says 1951. For some reason, there are a lot of J 45/50's from 1948-1954 for sale on ebay right now. Some of these guitars from that period are very, very good guitars, in my limited experience.

 

If you have a real luthier locally, it might be worth having him go over the guitar. The back braces in this period are often knife-thin, with very little gluing surface. It's common to find some of them loose, and they should be professionally re-glued if they are.

 

Having just recently gotten back to good internet access, I was trawling through ebay last night, and found a 1948-'50 J-45 for sale that looked almost exactly like mine did when I bought it in 1966--same 'burst pattern, etc. The hair on the back of my neck stood up when I looked at the picture of the neck block and FON. FON was 3644 20. My own old J-45 is 3644 8.

 

Was your guitar a good buy? If it is in the condition it appears to be, and if you like the way it sounds, I would say it was a very good buy.

 

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Congrats!

 

In my opinion, the guitars made starting in 1950 were, by Gibson standards, incredibly consistent. The days of a worker saying a part was finished when it looked close enough were gone. They no longer were building instruments using a mishmash of tools, dies and all as the plant was expanded, re-tooled, and re-organized.

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. For some reason, there are a lot of J 45/50's from 1948-1954 for sale on ebay right now. Some of these guitars from that period are very, very good guitars, in my limited experience.

 

If you have a real luthier locally, it might be worth having him go over the guitar. The back braces in this period are often knife-thin, with very little gluing surface. It's common to find some of them loose, and they should be professionally re-glued if they are.

 

 

 

Ain't it the truth. In my opinion, the eBay deal of the century was a late 1940s J-50 needing some work (lifting bridge, some loose braces, a couple of cracks) listed a while back. The sucker ended up going for only a little over $800.

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Looks like a nice one. A quick guess would be 1951-1953 only because the headstock does not appear to be tapered. I'll bet it sounds great. Enjoy.

 

Actually it does have a tapered headstock. Does that mean it was a different year?

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Actually it does have a tapered headstock. Does that mean it was a different year?

No. There is disagreement here on when the tapered headstock went out. That FON is reasonably definitive, along with the features. Features overlap a bit in this period. Almost certainly not late 40's, in any case.

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No. There is disagreement here on when the tapered headstock went out. That FON is reasonably definitive, along with the features. Features overlap a bit in this period. Almost certainly not late 40's, in any case.

 

Gotcha. Well all things considered was $3500 a good price on this guy?

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Gotcha. Well all things considered was $3500 a good price on this guy?

 

As I said, if it is in as good a condition as it looks, and you like the sound, I would say yes. Not a steal, but a good value.

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