IanHenry Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Zep didn't write this song, so technically its not desecrating Led Zep. I didn't much care for this version. The credits on the album say Brandon-Page-Plant. I've no idea who Brandon is. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodacaster Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The credits on the album say Brandon-Page-Plant. I've no idea who Brandon is. Ian It was written by Anne Bredon in the 50's. The Page and Plant credit is probably for the arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Start watching this at the 2:00 mark to see a lot about LedZ and their remixing ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Page and Plant rarely credited the artists they stole songs from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 ... Beware sacrilegious content! ... Ian I disagree. For sure, in contrary to my daughter, I've never been a fan of Miley, but she does it just right. No, that's not enough, her vocal performance is nothing but awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10K-DB Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 nice thighs..... lol,,you noticed that too? I dont know,,its an ok version I guess,,now I wonder if she decided to cover that one? Or did someone in her camp suggest it? Maybe her Dad,,Billy Ray C suggested it,,it is cool that shes doing a 70's rock tune,,maybe she could do a version of "Highway Star" by Deep Purple"? Or,,""All along the watchtower",,or,,"Sandman" by Metallica. Silly me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The credits on the album say Brandon-Page-Plant. I've no idea who Brandon is. Ian The credits on the later issues do, after the lawsuits Not originally, it just says traditional arranged by Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Oh yea, Miley? #butterface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starpeve Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I rate Plant as one of the greats. 'Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Mac Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 This is an interesting viewpoint, jaxson. I don't get the reference to child porn at all. I'm guessing she has a rather risque stage-show? A quick check tells me that she'll be 22 in a couple of months time so.... I must admit I know nothing about her whatsoever and was, therefore, judging the song in the OP solely on her actual performance. And I still say it's a fine version of the song. But hey; that's just my own opinion. P. Her upbringing was American children's television. She was on a Disney produced channel and her family oriented show which included her actual father was marketed as wholesome family entertainment and made alot of reference to their church and religious upbringing as a guiding force in their lives... Clearly she fell far off the reservation... When our children watched her religiously as a teen role model, to see what she morphed/twerked herself into of her own accord is not only a disappointment, but a huge letdown in the "role model" that she/they openly propped her up to be... Billy Ray was making the rounds of all the talk shows, getting his 2nd 15 minutes of fame off her coattails and milking it for every ounce of recognition and fame he could manufacture out of it all on the premise that they were a wholesome God-fearin' church goin' family of wholesome value and sweet goodness deserving of all the wonderfulness they could get... Well things started going downhill when they did a controversial father/daughter photo shoot that included her topless. Not exposed to the camera but her from the back in an embrace or pose with Billy Ray that was more than a little off and went beyond the acceptable limits of what a father/daughter moment ought to be at an age that left some sort of incestuous or child-porn bad taste in ones mouth as if they were the ones that acted in bad taste... Under other circumstances that photo-shoot might have been thought of as artistic and not so controversial, but it seemed to betray the manufactured portrayal they had invested in her/them. There's something very self-serving about them and it leaves you believing they were never what/who they portrayed themselves to be in their "testimonials" of their reverent and respectful lives... It has left a sour taste in the mouths of those that truly hoped she'd end up more than another child-star that fell from grace as she entered adulthood and those of us that bought into the hope of what a role model she could have been for our children instead of the reverse of that teaching moment that was forced upon us all... She's her own freak and that's her thing... But she should never have been marketed by her father and family as the next best girl next door when clearly it was never a real part of who she was or what she wanted out of life. Was she literally trapped by the whole Hannah-Montana thing? I'm sure, but clearly there's is much righteous disappointment for fallout from that whole meltdown and debacle for what she was set up to be... Alot of Americans feel betrayed. Especially in The Bible Belt where not only she became a role model, but he was reinvigorated in his career and as a celebrity family man and patriarch of such a wholesome role model for America... It just wasn't so and there's alot of distaste left in the mouths of those that hoped for more/better from the potential we were given... Serves us right for trusting/investing in celebutards I guess... Oh, and as for the remake of Zeps tune. I couldn't care less. I got no problem with new generations finding ways to carry the torch and promote the good stuff from our generation into the future. I didn't even listen to it now for this thread and I'm not going to, but if she brings it to any new generations that go and explore the original, then I got no problem with that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Strange idea. My folks never held up people on TV and radio as "Roll Models" for me to emulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I understand your view, Jimi, but I don't share it. Not by a long way. Even if, in her youth, she was portrayed as being 'The New Shirley Temple' would it be reasonable for the world to expect her to portray childhood innocence for the rest of her life? 'The Public' have absolutely no right whatsoever to expect her to behave solely in a way which they feel is her 'role'. She - and she alone - has to choose how she wants to behave. Any expectation people have of her - and any subsequent shortfall thereof - is their problem; not hers. IMO, of course. And I still say it was a fine version of the song. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I don't recall her daddy as being Mr. Dad either. I remember him getting famous by shaking his azz in skin tight jeans on TV to the delight of millions of screaming moms. Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Her upbringing was American children's television. She was on a Disney produced channel and her family oriented show which included her actual father was marketed as wholesome family entertainment and made alot of reference to their church and religious upbringing as a guiding force in their lives... Clearly she fell far off the reservation... When our children watched her religiously as a teen role model, to see what she morphed/twerked herself into of her own accord is not only a disappointment, but a huge letdown in the "role model" that she/they openly propped her up to be... Billy Ray was making the rounds of all the talk shows, getting his 2nd 15 minutes of fame off her coattails and milking it for every ounce of recognition and fame he could manufacture out of it all on the premise that they were a wholesome God-fearin' church goin' family of wholesome value and sweet goodness deserving of all the wonderfulness they could get... Well things started going downhill when they did a controversial father/daughter photo shoot that included her topless. Not exposed to the camera but her from the back in an embrace or pose with Billy Ray that was more than a little off and went beyond the acceptable limits of what a father/daughter moment ought to be at an age that left some sort of incestuous or child-porn bad taste in ones mouth as if they were the ones that acted in bad taste... Under other circumstances that photo-shoot might have been thought of as artistic and not so controversial, but it seemed to betray the manufactured portrayal they had invested in her/them. There's something very self-serving about them and it leaves you believing they were never what/who they portrayed themselves to be in their "testimonials" of their reverent and respectful lives... It has left a sour taste in the mouths of those that truly hoped she'd end up more than another child-star that fell from grace as she entered adulthood and those of us that bought into the hope of what a role model she could have been for our children instead of the reverse of that teaching moment that was forced upon us all... She's her own freak and that's her thing... But she should never have been marketed by her father and family as the next best girl next door when clearly it was never a real part of who she was or what she wanted out of life. Was she literally trapped by the whole Hannah-Montana thing? I'm sure, but clearly there's is much righteous disappointment for fallout from that whole meltdown and debacle for what she was set up to be... Alot of Americans feel betrayed. Especially in The Bible Belt where not only she became a role model, but he was reinvigorated in his career and as a celebrity family man and patriarch of such a wholesome role model for America... It just wasn't so and there's alot of distaste left in the mouths of those that hoped for more/better from the potential we were given... Serves us right for trusting/investing in celebutards I guess... WoW. You should have gotten a few mil in government grants for all of that analysis of the Cyrus Clan. And please, qualify your "us" that is trusting/investing in these people. Thanks. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I can't help but notice that Miss Miley is taking a lot of hints out of Pinks play book. She's been doing this one for years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCTwK2CEZlg Not that I'm a real fan of either, but I'd take Pink over Miley any day. More soul. Speaking of REAL talent (who did THAT?), It doesn't hurt that Pink has Linda Perry in her camp either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 She sings a whole lot better than Plant ever did. LZ was about the whole group, IMO. Take any one out and the rest wouldn't have seen near the success. I do think Plant did some good solo work too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturn Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I wonder how many people in 1968 said "Joan Baez's Babe I'm Gonna Leave You desecrated!" ? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I wonder how many people in 1968 said "Joan Baez's Babe I'm Gonna Leave You desecrated!" ? :) I got to know the Nazareth cover of Joni Mitchell's "This Flight Tonight" before I first heard the original. Fortunately, I didn't know it before... Nazareth: Joni Mitchell: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I think the DL cover of 'Rock On' Rock's On way more than the version what's-his-name did :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaLE4TTbwI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 I've often wondered what Joan Baez though of Judas Priests version of her Diamonds and Rust. I have to admit, the first time I heard it I'd never heard of Joan and never realised that the song was not a Judas Priest original (I rarely looked at the credit's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6g-7L2kPN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIC7KQPDuDc Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 ...I got to know the Nazareth cover of Joni Mitchell's "This Flight Tonight" before I first heard the original... I, too, knew the Nazareth version first, Cap. Nazareth were (almost) a local band when I was growing up - they came from about 30km away - and were very, very popular. Having said that once I discovered Joni Mitchell it was a revelation. She's still one of my all-time favourite musicians and 'Blue' would be one of my 'Desert Island Discs'. I've often wondered what Joan Baez though of Judas Priests version of her Diamonds and Rust. I have to admit, the first time I heard it I'd never heard of Joan and never realised that the song was not a Judas Priest original (I rarely looked at the credit's. From the opposite camp I'd never heard the Metallica version before now. I thought they did a good job. From what I've read most artists like hearing others giving their songs a different treatment and I'd guess Ms. Baez would be no different. I read an interview with her just the other week and she came across as a pretty down-to-earth no-nonsense person - all-things considered! On a guitar-related point........I've always loved her Martin 0-45............. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Mac Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I understand your view, Jimi, but I don't share it. Not by a long way. Even if, in her youth, she was portrayed as being 'The New Shirley Temple' would it be reasonable for the world to expect her to portray childhood innocence for the rest of her life? 'The Public' have absolutely no right whatsoever to expect her to behave solely in a way which they feel is her 'role'. She - and she alone - has to choose how she wants to behave. Any expectation people have of her - and any subsequent shortfall thereof - is their problem; not hers. IMO, of course. And I still say it was a fine version of the song. P. Oh trust me I get that... I wan't trying to imply she owed us anything... I was just trying to explain the perception that you mentioned having a little trouble understanding... You and Searcy are of course right. They are human beings 1st and shame on any of us for holding them up to be role models... I think part of it comes from the vast disappointment of any quality entertainment on TV and if a show is marketed as a wholesome kids show we look for quality to back up the prerequisits for such an entity... I think we manufacture our own expectations... I get that... I think I may have even bought into the persona and package that she seemed to take part in trying to sell us... She was being possibly intellectually dishonest, or even possibly dishonest with herself in promoting that unless it was simply about the $$. But then they (her and her father) seemed to be orchestrating the perception that is wasn't about the $$ and there was more substance to it than obviously there really was... Do I personally have some disappointment about it? Yes probably, but it's as much disappointment in my self for allowing myself to be taken about and by someone clearly as shallow as the two of them... I can't help but wonder if she'll end up the next Lindsey Lohan train-wreck or if he's able to maintain her ambitions and stay away from dope to manufacture as much controversy and celebrity attention as she can and parlay that into $$ for herself... But no, she doesn't owe me anything... But I can have disappointment if what I had hoped all of that was going to become... It doesn't matter one way or another really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocdman Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I had no idea that Nazareth was a cover. I like their version better but Im a Nazareth fan Hair of the dog is one of my all time favorite albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quapman Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I understand your view, Jimi, but I don't share it. Not by a long way. Even if, in her youth, she was portrayed as being 'The New Shirley Temple' would it be reasonable for the world to expect her to portray childhood innocence for the rest of her life? 'The Public' have absolutely no right whatsoever to expect her to behave solely in a way which they feel is her 'role'. She - and she alone - has to choose how she wants to behave. Any expectation people have of her - and any subsequent shortfall thereof - is their problem; not hers. IMO, of course. And I still say it was a fine version of the song. P. I agree with everything except understanding his view. I really don't. I can't think of one single point in my life where I felt the need to model my life after someone I don't even know. The whole notion of a "role model" escapes me completely when it comes to celebs or sports figures. Role models are people in my life,, not images on a TV. I'm sorry but I just don't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I really don't. I can't think of one single point in my life where I felt the need to model my life after someone I don't even know. The whole notion of a "role model" escapes me completely when it comes to celebs or sports figures. No offense to the assembled, but "role model" is parent code for "I don't know what I'm doing because the 74 seconds of fun of making babies is all I ever really cared about so I'll let others be responsible for how my scuzzy kids turn out". Something to that effect. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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