DRC Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I've never noticed this shim under the top portion of the nut on my J-35 until the light hit it just right today. Not a huge deal since it plays and sounds fantastic, but just odd to see something like this from a major iconic U.S. company like Gibson. This is more like something I'd expect from a $100 no-name guitar. Come on, Gibson. Really? DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozz Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Interesting. Placing shims under a nut that is a little low is fairly common adjustment. But it's not something I would have expected to see on a new Gibson. My new J-35 does not have a shim under the nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 These things are generally caused by humidity problems…... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 These things are generally caused by humidity problems…... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 . Are you sure that's the original Montana nut? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitedrifter Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Looks like your TRC is split right up the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Is it really a big deal ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Looks like your TRC is split right up the middle. Some of my Gibsons came stock with TRCs split at the screw holes. No big deals though - I replaced those saying anything with blank ones anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitedrifter Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 it is hard to tell from the picture but it looks like there is no lacquer coating over the nut which there would be if it is the original nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 333 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I can't tell from the photo, but are you sure you're not seeing the line where the surface of the lacquer ends? The nut is installed before the finish is applied. Red 333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What kinda strings are those? They appear to be silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayyj Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 It does look rather like a shim - the slots are awfully deep as well. Macro photos of things like this always play tricks with my eyes, but still... assuming it is, it seems unlikely (crossed fingers) to be a factory thing, but is there any chance a well meaning store guitar tech decided to deepen the slots and went a little too far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenverSteve Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Did you purchase it first hand from an authorized dealer? If so, because it seems to be bothering you, I would politely call the dealer, or Gibson, and ask for a nut replacement. Since it plays and sounds great, if it were mine, I would sit back and play it. Okay. Going to do that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRC Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 BigKahune.... Yes, it's the original Montana nut. I bought the guitar only a couple days after the store received it from Gibson. Sitedrifter.... What you're seeing is a string reflection from the flash. The TRC is fine. Blindboygrunt.... Martin Retro lights. I've tried MANY different strings on it and the Retros have taken it to another level. Best strings I've had on the J-35. Jayyj.... Photos can be deceiving. I'm a retired guitar tech, still do much of my own work and I filed the nut slots to suit my playing style and feel. The action was too high at the nut from the factory, but now is great with absolutely no buzzing, even when played aggressively. DenverSteve.... Yes, it was purchased from an authorized dealer. I specifically said it wasn't a huge deal...and trust me, it gets a LOT of play time. The only thing that 'bothers' me is the way in which Gibson 'jerry-rigged' an obvious error in manufacture. When I get time, I plan to remove the nut, determine why the shim was used, and take care of it. I just thought my fellow forum members would find this factory nut shimming interesting. DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenverSteve Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I find it interesting as I've never seen anything like it on a new guitar. I would at least call them and ask for a new nut that you, or an authorized Gibson tech, can install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Interesting to the point of not amusing.... Does it appear to only be under the 6th string? If so, it would have to be tapered... Do you think it's just the nut that is uneven and needed to be jury rigged, or the neck? I agree with your observation of this being something you'd expect on a $100 guitar. I can't understand how this could have left the factory. If it's the neck, which would be my guess, I'd bring it back to the dealer for a replacement - no matter how much I loved it. G'luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I wont ask where you bought it from.. But how does the nut look? does it look as if it was cut from the groove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfbird Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I find it hard to believe that we've reached the level of fanboy that excuses something that you'd expect on a $100 guitar. It becomes pretty clear why detractors have so much ammo. Gibson gives it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 FWIW - Some of my Gibson electrics have a ridge on the nut that could be mistaken for a shim, and I've purchased Gibson-parts branded nuts (for electrics) that had a pronounced ridge at the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 This shouldn't happen from the plant - it's the exception of exceptions. Though the sonic difference may be between minimal and none, I would make the dealer contact Bozeman. A matter of re-sale value, , , and style. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Is it not more likely that it was done in the shop ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 .... Martin Retro lights. I've tried MANY different strings on it and the Retros have taken it to another level. Best strings I've had on the J-35. This inspired me to put a set I had lying around on the 2010 J-45 Standard (which had the same Martin Flexcore 12-54 on since Jan. 2012 and still sounded greatos). First couple of strums make promise of a wedding - let's see. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 This inspired me to put a set I had lying around on the 2010 J-45 Standard (which had the same Martin Flexcore 12-54 on since Jan. 2012 and still sounded greatos). First couple of strums make promise of a wedding - let's see. . keep us informed how they sound em7? I'm an admirer of your playing and would be interested in what you think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Davy Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Ok own up. Who's just examined their nuts to see if they have a problem too. I examine mine all the time after the doctor advised me to. Oh not those nuts,, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogeye Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 If you ever saw a guitar set-up at the factory you would know this wasn't done at the plant. The nut slots are never cut that deep. Someone was trying to adjust the action and cut them to deep and then not having a nut they just shimmed the old one. It probably wasn't done at the plant as the set-up tech would have tossed the nut that was cut to deep and put in a new one. It's much easier to just replace the nut than take the time to make a shim and then adjust it to fit. It's possible but certainly not something that a tech with a box full of proper fret nuts at hand would do. It would just take to much time and never pass inspection. A new fret nut will cost a couple of dollars and if you asked Gibson would probably send you a hand full for free. It might be a good time to experiment with a couple of different materials just to see if there is any difference. I'm not apologizing for Gibson. They just wouldn't or couldn't take the time to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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