capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Researching Kyser capos, I was a bit surprised to find just a black one for electrics. Amidst the colourful Kyser acoustic guitar capo line is this one, model # KG6SA: When looking at Katy Perry here, I think she is using just this type capo on a Les Paul, so I guess it should work for electrics with similar neck shapes, too - what do you think? Another point of interest is the guitar Katy is playing here. Considering pickup rings, bridge, and nickel hardware, it looks rather classic. Could it be a Les Paul Classic in white, or is it something special for Katy? By the way, I think her drummer is wearing funny sunglasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I so so so SO would hit that. You were saying? rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skilsaw Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 What? Did you say there was a guitar in the picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 What? Did you say there was a guitar in the picture? I'm sure it's even a genuine one. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOL! Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Researching Kyser capos, I was a bit surprised to find just a black one for electrics. Getting past the photos (not the biggest fan of white girls if I have options, but the porcelain skin is sexy), that sounds like a load of rubbish. I've been using a gold and a silver Kyser on my electrics for years. This includes more gigs than I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Paul Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 What? Did you say there was a guitar in the picture? What guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Paul Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I so so so SO would hit that. You were saying? rct Ahmen brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErickC Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 A little research finds it's a limited-run Les Paul Standard with the pickup covers removed; odd that the pickups are so low, perhaps if such a clean, bright signal were desired, and the pickups were out to remove the covers anyway, P94s may have been a better option? And I don't know about anyone else, but I use the same capo on my acoustic and electrics and it works fine. I couldn't even tell you if it were meant for either, and I'm pretty sure I picked the one I picked because it was gold. There's something about Katy's mannerisms in interviews that reminds me of one of my sisters. Odd. Kind of cool. But odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Paul Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I don't believe these guys..! Here's this hot babe hanging it out, and they're looking at her capo??? Jeeez!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenKen Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I so so so SO would hit that. You were saying? rct Ah, but would that hit you? Back to the capo....carry on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I don't believe these guys..! Here's this hot babe hanging it out, and they're looking at her capo??? Jeeez!! Hah, she does wear the Les Paul well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 A little research finds it's a limited-run Les Paul Standard with the pickup covers removed.... Thanks a lot, this might help clearing up the particular capoing. I obviously also overlooked the special impression of the finish under the pink stage light, so I wasn't aware it is a sparkling white. This massive-bodied Custom Shop LP Standard came with a 50's rounded neck. Therefore the Kyser acoustic guitar capos might perform better I think. According to the Kyser website, the one dedicated to electrics is smaller and provides less spring force. http://www.kysermusical.com/store/electric-guitars/ http://www.kysermusical.com/store/acoustic-guitars/ For practical reasons I'd prefer a clinical over a fancy look. Obviously even Katy does that! By the way, what's wrong with researching what capos artists use on stage? In my guess it says these things work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Paul Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I still don't believe it. She's nearly got the milk bar open for business and he's still looking at the capo! That's determination! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 There are factual informations of interest in these pics, and some additional appeal along with them is not that bad, is it? ;) Researching this particular Les Paul on the web will lead to next to no results even when knowing what to look for, but thanks to ErickC I know now about the neck what is of particular interest when capoing I think. I also found just a single dealer in Germany offering this capo in silver. Perhaps the lots of colours offered by Kyser make retailers reluctant to have all of them in stock. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Remind me again why our forum has so few females? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 To my experiences, mysteriously there are less female than male players. You may find lots of girls among beginners, but after some years the herd of girls thins out much more than that of boys. Interestingly this applies to the lot of players of different instruments. I think there also are much more male than female composers and lyricists. I often have rather philosophical talks to some girls I perform audio recordings of. They still are in their teens and are writing great songs, music as well as words. However, I fear they probably will give it up with time. In contrary, lots of boys creating crappy songs think they are the greatest. Perhaps the girls are too modest? When recording classical, most orchestras have lots of male players. In contrary, choirs are desperately looking for male singers. It's a mystery to me, too, but it didn't change over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbabig Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 To my experiences, mysteriously there are less female than male players. You may find lots of girls among beginners, but after some years the herd of girls thins out much more than that of boys. Interestingly this applies to the lot of players of different instruments. I think there also are much more male than female composers and lyricists. I often have rather philosophical talks to some girls I perform audio recordings of. They still are in their teens and are writing great songs, music as well as words. However, I fear they probably will give it up with time. In contrary, lots of boys creating crappy songs think they are the greatest. Perhaps the girls are too modest? When recording classical, most orchestras have lots of male players. In contrary, choirs are desperately looking for male singers. It's a mystery to me, too, but it didn't change over the years. Misogyny has been a problem in the classical world for a long time, I can't even name a female composer and I consider myself at least somewhat educated about classical history. I think females get pushed out of music because for many guys their looks take precedence over the music that they are making. Imagine you just wrote the most beautiful song ever written and all the guys can think about is whether you're attractive or not. I think females get discouraged from the electric guitar in particular because for many players all it is a pissing contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 There always has been traditional music among human beings. I believe that females were and still are an equal part, if not the majority when about making music at home. Classical is a different story I think. There have been composers employed to make a living by Emperors, Kings and Queens for several centuries. Nowadays music is big business and just about what sells. I think that boygroup music is rather appreciated by girls admiring them boys. Male listeners tend to consider them as rivals or as benchmark, if they admit that or not. This may refer to appearance as well as to assumed player qualities, no matter if the listener is a player himself or not. Female artists are typically marketed using looks in first order, if they like it or not. Most female musicians I know, and there are very pretty ones among them, are reluctant to consider themselves as a purely female attraction. They are dedicated to personal qualities beyond looks, and their lyrics reveal that. This particular disparity could be a serious reason for females getting discouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 First as to an appropriate capo... All of mine are Kyser generic "acoustic" steel string guitars except for my very first 1965 wood and string "flamenco" capo. I'm at the point where I can't really tell even which I bought for the 12-strings and which for 6-strings unless I lay them out together. I did once buy a Kyser "classical guitar" capo and I think it got lost in the general mix. I do not, nor have I bought an "electric" guitar capo. The reason is that I've seen the question more as fingerboard radius and string spacing. I think about a 12-inch radius is my shortest guitar radius. Less on some. --- Now as to women musicians? I think it comes down mostly to the same circumstances that bring complaints of unequal pay, promotions, etc. First, there is an expectation in our primitive "lizard brain" that females are different from males and that part of being "female" is to attract partners one way or another, of the male to prove his superiority take his pick, or pick as many as possible that attract him. One sees this perhaps especially among mammal species, but it's similar in many older varieties of animals. Since all humans respond differently, that allows a wide range of behavior - but the foundation is the same. And of course, there are some "polarities" that are exceptions proving the rule. That pre-human fact is impressed on our responses to others regardless whether we have an Einstein IQ (look up his relationships), or whether we are male or female. Secondly there are the biological realities. I've mentioned before a family friend who played in various symphony orchestras and yet ... as a woman in her late 50s as I recall ... questioned whether the sacrifices of the road and symphonies were worth it. I've also had female friends in the "pop" music field (rock, country, etc.) who decided it wasn't worth it regardless of varying degrees of commercial success before dropping out. A meaningful "life" was difficult to find. I think that in recorded history we have had generally more internally conflicts in role for females than males. "We" try to justify this in various ways, depending on our own sex and maturity, but I think it's obviously a fact. And "we" on this forum don't have a history of doing all that much to encourage females of all ages to play guitar and perform. Or to play guitar as many of us have done with some "pro" gigs in relative youth followed by simply playing for one's own enjoyment. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 First as to an appropriate capo... All of mine are Kyser generic "acoustic" steel string guitars except for my very first 1965 wood and string "flamenco" capo. I'm at the point where I can't really tell even which I bought for the 12-strings and which for 6-strings unless I lay them out together. I did once buy a Kyser "classical guitar" capo and I think it got lost in the general mix. I do not, nor have I bought an "electric" guitar capo. The reason is that I've seen the question more as fingerboard radius and string spacing. I think about a 12-inch radius is my shortest guitar radius. Less on some. --- Now as to women musicians? I think it comes down mostly to the same circumstances that bring complaints of unequal pay, promotions, etc. First, there is an expectation in our primitive "lizard brain" that females are different from males and that part of being "female" is to attract partners one way or another, of the male to prove his superiority take his pick, or pick as many as possible that attract him. One sees this perhaps especially among mammal species, but it's similar in many older varieties of animals. Since all humans respond differently, that allows a wide range of behavior - but the foundation is the same. And of course, there are some "polarities" that are exceptions proving the rule. That pre-human fact is impressed on our responses to others regardless whether we have an Einstein IQ (look up his relationships), or whether we are male or female. Secondly there are the biological realities. I've mentioned before a family friend who played in various symphony orchestras and yet ... as a woman in her late 50s as I recall ... questioned whether the sacrifices of the road and symphonies were worth it. I've also had female friends in the "pop" music field (rock, country, etc.) who decided it wasn't worth it regardless of varying degrees of commercial success before dropping out. A meaningful "life" was difficult to find. I think that in recorded history we have had generally more internally conflicts in role for females than males. "We" try to justify this in various ways, depending on our own sex and maturity, but I think it's obviously a fact. And "we" on this forum don't have a history of doing all that much to encourage females of all ages to play guitar and perform. Or to play guitar as many of us have done with some "pro" gigs in relative youth followed by simply playing for one's own enjoyment. m Thank you very much for your reply, Milod. When about capos, the fretboard radiuses range from 9.5" to 16" here. There's no serious reason for me being unsatisfied with my Shubb C-1 which performs great, but it calls for individual adjustment and takes both hands for proper mounting. Meanwhile I found out that five dealers in Germany sell a Kyser KG6 S, not a Kyser KG6SA as I found on the Kyser website - perhaps they dropped the "A" for acoustic. When reviewing this topic as such, the seventh response has been the first to supply an information I was looking for. It obviously depended on the player pictured. No need to say that viewing any player might cause personal reactions, based on musical style or image, but I just wanted useful informations, hence the topic title and description, and finally got them. In my opinion, considering Katy Perry as a serious player should not be that complicated. As many others do, I was just looking what the pros use, and she doubtlessly is a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Cap... it appears traditional for LP guitars to have a 12" fingerboard radius. That should work with any "acoustic" or "generic" capo of the Kyser type that have a slight curve. So most Kyser models should work on an LP, I'd say, although one designed for the 7 1/2 or 9 1/2 radius might have a bit of difficulty. Kyser also makes a flatter "classical guitar" capo. Don't have one. I also doubt it would work well on narrow neck radius. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Thanks again, Milod. My second point of interest had been the neck of that particular LP. Since it's a 50's rounded, it seems to explain why this specific Kyser capo works well, and perhaps better than their dedicated "electric" model would. In addition, I'd like it to work with .012"-.054" strings, too, and a "lighter" capo might give up on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Cap... Yup. I'd say with your heavier strings, and that neck shape... a regular acoustic Kyser should work well enough. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Cap... Yup. I'd say with your heavier strings, and that neck shape... a regular acoustic Kyser should work well enough. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Paul Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Hah, she does wear the Les Paul well. If she's as good as she looks, she could play any of my LP's any day. And yeah, no arguments from me there, she wears a Les Paul better than me!(lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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