RevDavidLee Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I must be late to this one because I just read about them & I'm trying to decipher the verbiage about these guitars off of Wildwood Guitars website (link below) http://www.wildwoodguitars.com/electrics/gibson_custom_shop/featured_series/gibson_custom_solid_formed.htm For over $6k I'm trying to figure out if the "using less wood" to make a guitar is a pleasing thought or not. If there's already a thread on this - admin please delete this one Thoughts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drog Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I think by "less would" it is acheived because they don't have to shave away a larger slab, down to a top. Instead they take a piece already the correct thickness a press it into shape. So saving on the amount of wood used. I have not played one , or seen one in person, so I reserve judgement on them. They look great from what I can tell, I am very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 They announced this a the NAMM Show as being a more affordable guitar due to the pressing technique but at six grand it's too rich for my blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 They announced this a the NAMM Show as being a more affordable guitar due to the pressing technique but at six grand it's too rich for my blood. Yes. It's very nice, but nowhere near to affordable. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drog Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I think they mean affordable for a Gibson, which it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesh Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 What is their justification for such a price tag?! One can't exactly say these are hand-made if they've been form pressed into shape; and the "hand-made" tag always puts costs up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drog Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 There is still plenty of hands on work done. The guitars are in ES175 price point, so an affordable option for players that are looking at that guitar. They were not about to release something to be in the Ibanez price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Solid spruce or mahogany pressed archtops have been around for a long time, but have become a rare sight in today's new guitar market. One such animal in current production is the Guild A-150 Savoy. It features an X-braced solid spruce top, laminated figured maple back & sides, and single-coil floating DeArmond pickup. I happen to have the natural-finish version, and it's a well made instrument. Interesting that this new Gibson apparently has a scarfed neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesh Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Interesting that the Gibson apparently has a scarfed neck. Where are you seeing this? Can't see a join from the photos, or have you picked up on something in the specs I've missed? Can't be paying that much money for a Guitar to have a scarfed neck, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Where are you seeing this? Can't see a join from the photos, or have you picked up on something in the specs I've missed? Read the provided text from the above linked page. Perhaps it's a different design altogether, but from the given descriptor, it sounds like some sort of scarfed neck arrangement. I'm sure we'll learn more about it in due time. If scarfed, the junction points would be hidden beneath the blackened finish areas of the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 "...features a very special neck that’s designed to use less wood yet be stronger while enhancing the guitar’s tone. The headstock is grafted to the neck shaft, which also runs in a continuous grain, insuring strength where a guitar is typically vulnerable and further enhancing the guitar’s overall sound performance. Where the neck meets the body, the heel block is precision glued to the neck shaft, and features a precision dovetail joint. The neck shaft is then glued into a matching dovetail joint in the body. Finally, to make the most of the Solid-Formed neck, a dual action truss rod insures complete flexibility in adjustment." Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I bet it plays no better than an Ibanez AF series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I bet it plays no better than an Ibanez AF series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 ...a very special neck......while enhancing the guitar's tone... ...further enhancing the guitar's overall sound... What's that strange smell?.............. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2PoFoAGibSon Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 1426780455[/url]' post='1641465']What's that strange smell?.............. P. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 What's that strange smell?.............. P. I think it comes from Bulls? that smell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 "...features a very special neck that’s designed to use less wood yet be stronger while enhancing the guitar’s tone. The headstock is grafted to the neck shaft, which also runs in a continuous grain, insuring strength where a guitar is typically vulnerable and further enhancing the guitar’s overall sound performance. Where the neck meets the body, the heel block is precision glued to the neck shaft, and features a precision dovetail joint. The neck shaft is then glued into a matching dovetail joint in the body. Finally, to make the most of the Solid-Formed neck, a dual action truss rod insures complete flexibility in adjustment." Cheers... Bence What's that strange smell?.............. P. I'm sniffing that my guitars and basses have a flawy neck providing inferior tone, just like all those coveted vintage instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I think they mean affordable for a Gibson, which it is. That'll look great on the Weekend Sale tag at GC: $5999.99 Affordable For A Gibson! They'll move 'em out by the wheelbarrow full. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 yea with 12 or 24 mos. 0% financing! it's only money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Not into 17" bodies. Otherwise... I do wonder what some of the words really mean too. m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I'm not buying (figuratively AND literally) the propaganda regurgitated in this description. How many "buzz" words and phrases can be put into a four paragraph write-up of a single guitar: Solid-formed Ve-netian cutaway simple elegance Eco-Friendly Proprietary construction impressive list of features significant advancements open tone grain is redirected instead of severed proprietary process that’s been in development for several years Redesigned Neck-Less Wood headstock is grafted to the neck shaft precision glued Tone that Lives and Breaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milod Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Larry <grin> Marvelous understatement! m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 Solid spruce or mahogany pressed archtops have been around for a long time, but have become a rare sight in today's new guitar market. One such animal in current production is the Guild A-150 Savoy. It features an X-braced solid spruce top, laminated figured maple back & sides, and single-coil floating DeArmond pickup. I happen to have the natural-finish version, and it's a well made instrument. Interesting that this new Gibson apparently has a scarfed neck. Let's take a look at that Guild! And here's the specs: (Comparatively priced at $1,149 which includes a case!) OVERVIEW Vintage jazz guitar tone and style from a brand that helped define it. The elegant tone quality and design of this guitar will bring real satisfaction of ownership to the most critical player. A truly outstanding acoustic/electric, the A-150 Savoy is a pleasure to see and hear, pairing a wonderfully free-playing late-1950s Guild orchestra model with the distinctive addition of an exceptionally voiced DeArmond 1000 floating pickup. The welcome return of a true Guild classic. FEATURES Body Body Material: Solid Spruce Top with Laminated Flame Maple Back and Sides Body Shape: Guild A-150 Body Back: Arched Laminated Flame Maple Body Sides: Laminated Flame Maple Body Top: Arched Solid Spruce Body Finish: Gloss Urethane Bracing: X Bracing Purfling: Black/Ivory White F Holes Sound Holes: Unbound F Holes Body Depth: 3.125" (80mm) Body Length: 21" (533mm) Body Width Lower Bout: 17" (432mm) Body Binding: Ivory White with Multiple Black/White Purfling Neck Neck Shape: Vintage Soft "U" Number of Frets: 20 Fret Size: Jumbo Position Inlays: Pearloid Block Fingerboard Radius: 9.45" (240mm) Fretboard: Rosewood Neck Material: 3-Piece Mahogany/Maple/Mahogany Neck Finish: Gloss Urethane Nut Width: 1.650" (42mm) Scale Length: 24.75" (628mm) Headstock: Newark St. Truss Rod: Dual-Action Head Adjust Truss Rod Nut: Hex Electronics Pickup Configuration: S Neck Pickup: DeArmond 1000 "Rhythm Chief" Floating Archtop Pickup Controls: Pickguard Mounted Volume Hardware Hardware Finish: Nickel-Plated Bridge: Compensated Rosewood with Rosewood Base Tuning Machines: Grover Sta-Tite Die-Cast String Nut: Bone Pickguard: Opaque Plexi Pickguard with Guild Logo Tools Truss Rod Wrench: Yes Miscellaneous Strings: D'Addario ECG25 Chromes Flat Wound, Light, (.012-.052 Gauges) Unique Features: Single Cutaway Hollowbody; DeArmond 1000 "Rhythm Chief" Floating Pickup; Guild "Harp" Tailpiece; Chesterfield Headstock Inlay Accessories Control Knobs: Clear Amber Mini Speed Knob Includes case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm not buying (figuratively AND literally) the propaganda regurgitated in this description. How many "buzz" words and phrases can be put into a four paragraph write-up of a single guitar: Solid-formed Ve-netian cutaway simple elegance Eco-Friendly Proprietary construction impressive list of features significant advancements open tone grain is redirected instead of severed proprietary process that’s been in development for several years Redesigned Neck-Less Wood headstock is grafted to the neck shaft precision glued Tone that Lives and Breaths Amen Larry & amen to all the other comments about the verbiage used in the description of these Gibson's and their attempt to make every justification possible to merit that price point. Incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Mistakes happen. I think this guitar is basically, a mistake someone at Gibson made thinking it would be worthwhile to build. I can see where it would still be possible to spend enough effort on labor to make these at the 6k level. Can also see where it can likely be a well built, good sounding guitar. But there isn't a market for this. And in fact, is OPPOSITE of what the 6k market expects. It even has the features of "cheap" that those in the market point to to justify the 6k market guitars. That's if this thing actually exist. Having a hard time thinking it does. This reads more as false info to sell copies, or a joke, or a test. Reserving judgement Gibson would build this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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