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I have been using Elixir Nanoweb 11s for some years now. I find they last long and don't go off during hot weather. I use the same strings on all my acoustics.

 

I do hear a bright clear crisp sound particularly on TV for advertisements or backing behind programs like wild life and country shows, certainly brighter than I get from my guitars. As I can't see the player I take it that the sound is the guitar but perhaps I am wrong and it's the strings. I play a Gibson CJ165 and a Martin 00028. Can any members help me with this.

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I have been using Elixir Nanoweb 11s for some years now. I find they last long and don't go off during hot weather. I use the same strings on all my acoustics.

 

I do hear a bright clear crisp sound particularly on TV for advertisements or backing behind programs like wild life and country shows, certainly brighter than I get from my guitars. As I can't see the player I take it that the sound is the guitar but perhaps I am wrong and it's the strings. I play a Gibson CJ165 and a Martin 00028. Can any members help me with this.

 

This is a fun journey, so enjoy it.

 

Id recommend trying uncoated PB Lights - like DR Rare, Martin MSP 4100, D'Addario EJ16s etc...

 

Or for really brightening up the sound, try Martin Retro Lights - they are Monel.

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I have been using Elixir Nanoweb 11s for some years now. I find they last long and don't go off during hot weather. I use the same strings on all my acoustics.

 

I do hear a bright clear crisp sound particularly on TV for advertisements or backing behind programs like wild life and country shows, certainly brighter than I get from my guitars. As I can't see the player I take it that the sound is the guitar but perhaps I am wrong and it's the strings. I play a Gibson CJ165 and a Martin 00028. Can any members help me with this.

 

 

Which Elixir Nanos are you using - PBs or 80/20. I found guitars spring to life with the 80/20 Elixir....not for the shy.

 

 

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well hang on just a sec..

I think you can't possibly know.. from hearing a recording on TV,, what that ting sounds like when it's just played..

 

anyway, I'm partial to Nanowebs too. I have been leaning more on the side of the PBs rather than the 80/20s

 

the amount of time you can keep these on your guitar without changing them is impressive. I started using these strings when they first came out, and over the course of time, it would even seem that they've improved the formulas. I honestly wouldn't use a different strings brand on my three steel string acoustics.

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IMHO Elixrs mask tone. Try some 80/20 Masterbilts, they come on a lot of Gibsons and don't sound bad to my ears. I like martin 80/20's on a range of guitars to get that bright sparkle. The FX have the most and Lifespan sound good too. A fellow stopped by the store with some octagonal strings made in Nashville and they sound great. They don't say they are coated but I am seeing something wear off of the strings. Martin Retros are great strings as are Newtone Nickel wound. So many choices so little time, and you have to play a lot to work through all of those choices. Sounds like a win-win to me!

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Buying a Taylor would do it for sure, but a much cheaper option is a set of Ernie Ball Aluminum Bronze. Nice strings, but I found them too metallic sounding, even after being on the guitar for over a month. However, lots of folks like that sound...... And no matter what we tell you in here, you are the one who has to decide what sounds bright and what doesn't.

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I've listened to a few of your songs in YouTube fretplay , and they're all very ... 'Processed' ? For want of a better word.

 

Fair enough , not slighting what you do. But there's very little 'acoustic' sound involved . I'm not sure how much difference string choice would make in your recordings.....

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Ernie Ball alum/bronze MPicker???!!!! Who knew? I'm gonna' try them out just for fun. Can't wait to play some Lucinda Williams songs.

 

I'm locked into Dunlop 80/20 12's for the '35 L00, but I'm trying out the EBalls on that. My Martin and '31 L0 get the royal treatment...Thomastik-Enfelds. They are the anti-bright string.

 

Black Diamonds, anyone?

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I've listened to a few of your songs in YouTube fretplay , and they're all very ... 'Processed' ? For want of a better word.

 

Fair enough , not slighting what you do. But there's very little 'acoustic' sound involved . I'm not sure how much difference string choice would make in your recordings.....

 

AS you say there is very little acoustic content in my recordings recently as I prefer the sound of my Epiphone Casino using an external chorus. I did record 'Today's the Day' on my CJ 165 and on the Epi but only the acoustic is on You Tube. I also did 'Tuesday Tune'on acoustic, I'm not realy happy with that sound either.

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FrtPly, Much good advice hear. Especially the Black Diamond comment ! I also use the Elixer Bronze 12 nanos. Only. Found other strings I liked - but don't like changing strings.

One observation, to build on KidBlast's note that sound over your television is NOT what the guitar sounds like in person ... I think our ears have different 'capabilities', or are 'tuned' differently in terms of the Hi's, the Lows and the Midrange. Between the baffles of the outer ear, the makeup of the earwax clogging the canal, and the hardness or flexibility of the eardrum and the 5 little bones behind it, and how thick your skull is - we all hear slightly differently. Think of an equalizer with a dozen or so slidey rheostat capacitor thingys on the board. Each of us has a slightly different 'setting'. So - when a note is played - some of us hear it one way, and some the other way. If my old, tired ears need more 'twang', I look for brighter strings. Or (gasp) a Taylor. If they are able to pickup enough twang or brightness - and I prefer to hear a little 'thump' or thunder - I may go with Gibson. So - when you ask 100 people for string recommendations, you might get 101 different suggestions. Your ears, your guitars, your strings! G'Luck !

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Would a change of attack in your playing help?

Different plectrum ?

 

Your recordings show that you're no slouch on the guitar.

I'm thinking that maybe a visit to the guitar shops to try a few different shapes or makes of guitar might shed a light.

 

Good, no great point. Picks make a big difference. I alternate between 2 depending on the song and guitar.

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Would a change of attack in your playing help?

Different plectrum ?

 

 

Both of these can change things dramatically. I now primarily use Dunlop Tortex picks, and just move between difference thickness picks for different songs or different sounds. The thinner picks (.73mm-yellow) produce a brighter tone with most guitars. The 1.0 mm (blue) are my default pick right now, giving warmth while retaining a good bit of clarity. If I want a thumpy tone, I go with the 1.14mm (purple) pick. They also make several lighter and intermediate gauges as well.

 

 

The thickest of these give that extreme warmth and tonal saturation that you get from very expensive picks like the thicker Red Bear and Blue Chips.

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Would a change of attack in your playing help?

Different plectrum ?

 

Your recordings show that you're no slouch on the guitar.

I'm thinking that maybe a visit to the guitar shops to try a few different shapes or makes of guitar might shed a light.

 

Ah! good point, I use fingers only on the recordings. I have hard nails and I can hear the contact on the strings if I search it through the recording system. If I'm playing with other people acoustic I use a thumb plectrum.

 

Maybe as another member says you do hear differently as you get older. I did have a hearing test recently and I was rated as in my 20s Well my youngest son is 29 so I must be doing alright. However I would have thought a Martin 00028 should produce a bright enough sound I think I'll try Martin Retro lights or some 80/20.

 

Thanks for your help.

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