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The BBC are running a series on artificial intelligence and they've created a web page that will tell you the likelihood of a robot taking you job in the next decade or two. It strikes me that if it's accurate, there's going to be an awful lot of people on the dole.

 

As I don't have a job (I tried it and came to the conclusion that working's vastly overrated, I can't see what people see in it [biggrin] ) it doesn't worry me unduly.

 

Follow this link and type your job title in:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34066941

 

Ian

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I'm a musician, and it says: Quite unlikely (4%) - 311th out of 366.

 

Why?

 

Artificial intelligence is the clue. It doesn't take intelligence to be a musician - in fact - that could hurt ;)

 

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I'm a musician, and it says: Quite unlikely (4%) - 311th out of 366.

 

Why?

 

Artificial intelligence is the clue. It doesn't take intelligence to be a musician - in fact - that could hurt ;)

 

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Well, in my area, they may as well have taken over, already! Musician's ("Live Music") have/has been largely replaced, not by

"Robots," per se', but by Karaoke, and/or Internet Juke boxes! Their cheap, and the patrons can request, sing, or program

any song they want! It's NOTHING like "Live Music," of course...but, too many of the local/area bars and clubs don't seem

to care! [crying][cursing]

 

 

CB

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I'm a decorator. It said there's a 90% chance a robot will do my job. What a load of tosh. How could a robot decorate? Perhaps in a perfectly square room. But not a normal job.

I've just put some other jobs in and it seems if it's academic a robot can't do it. Which I think is the opposite. How can a robot do plumbing repair yet can't diagnose an illness? What rubbish. Obviously the quiz is set up by someone that is privately schooled and never lifted a tool.

 

A roofer..90% chance a robot will do it.

Quantity surveyor ..3%....I rest my case. Stupid.

Posted

Day Job... Teacher - only a 1% likelihood of a robot takeover. 357/366

 

Night Job... Musician - 4% 311/366

 

So it looks like I shall remain as employed and broke as I am now. [biggrin]

Posted

They are barmy.

 

There is NO chance for a very, very long time of robots taking over.

 

Three Cray supercomputers working in parallel have the intellectual combined equivalent of a slug. But maybe slugs will feel insulted everywhere!

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I'm a decorator. It said there's a 90% chance a robot will do my job. What a load of tosh. How could a robot decorate? Perhaps in a perfectly square room. But not a normal job.

I've just put some other jobs in and it seems if it's academic a robot can't do it. Which I think is the opposite. How can a robot do plumbing repair yet can't diagnose an illness? What rubbish. Obviously the quiz is set up by someone that is privately schooled and never lifted a tool.

 

A roofer..90% chance a robot will do it.

Quantity surveyor ..3%....I rest my case. Stupid.

 

I don't think you've got much to worry about Lashurst, the one they showed walking down the street on TV walked like it had sh*t it's pants, so it may be a while before they can go up a ladder and hang wallpaper.

 

Ian

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A robot that can arrive at the office, put the kettle on, f@rt around on the internet for few hours, go for swim, practice guitar for a bit, f@rt around on the web some more, catch up with its guitar tech for a friendly chat, then go for a long exercise walk before going home... pfft. I'd like to see it try!

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Well I stopped working close to 20 years ago, but according to the poll, survey, or what ever it is, my job that I was at when I stopped work says there is only a 17% chance of a robot being able to take it over.

I was a high-rise construction superintendent for close to 40 years.

But by all means if they can find a robot, or a monkey to put up with all that shicrap , lots of luck.

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No worries! I'm retired so no threat to me. But I highly doubt they could ever come up with a robot to do a carmans job at the railroad that performs in repairing freight cars. Every car is different in repairs done. Some have light repairs while others are total wrecks and are stripped down to the sill and rebuilt. Trucks go to the truck station to be stripped down and repaired, wheels come from the wheel plant, new side sheets, end sheets are put together and installed, which takes cranes or a petibone to put back on. Doors are repaired at the door station and can be complicated in straightening some. They have to be able to open and close them with one person. Just way to much stuff to mention. Side motion, safety appliances, end sills, welding, cutting, grinding, welding cracks, adding on reinforcement AAR plates, ect. I'm sure carman have a life time job. Not to mention all the heavy parts you have to lift and flip over and pick up with jib cranes. Or go find your own parts outside.

Posted

I tried typing in my real job but it didn't compute.

So I tried several close. They didn't compute.

Then I tried 'Waster'; 'Scrounger'; 'Layabout' (occupations of several of my close friends) and bugger me but neither of them would compute either.

 

I reckon this list was compiled by a robot. And it didn't do a very good job. Crap job, in fact.

Not much of a recommendation for robots, eh?

 

Pip.

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I reckon this list was compiled by a robot. And it didn't do a very good job. Crap job, in fact.

Pip.

 

It can only be attributable to human error.

 

 

 

 

[wink] B)

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Well I stopped working close to 20 years ago, but according to the poll, survey, or what ever it is, my job that I was at when I stopped work says there is only a 17% chance of a robot being able to take it over.

I was a high-rise construction superintendent for close to 40 years.

But by all means if they can find a robot, or a monkey to put up with all that shicrap , lots of luck.

I do close to the same thing.

 

And I feel EXACTLY as you describe....like a robot-monkey.

 

It's part of the job description, you know this.

Posted

I typed in "drywaller" (my trade), and as it turns out, this here computer is too slow and messed up to wait for the results.

 

Basically, a computer can't even do a computer's job.

Posted
...It can only be attributable to human error...

[laugh]

 

Yes, you're right; any 'mistake' made by a computer was pretty much down to bad programming in the first place.

On Radio 4's 'Today' program this past Monday, however, they were talking about some 'robots' which had the power for 'original thought' and cognitive capabilities.

Perhaps the programmers will finally be able to claim "It's Not My Fault!" at last?

 

As far as your comment above goes;

When I was at Art College 30 years ago I used to decorate my folio with cartoons which I'd cut from the pages of Punch magazine.

One of my favourites was an employee receiving a message from his manager. The dialogue ran thus;

 

"To Err is Human, Tomkins. That is why you are being replaced by a machine."

 

Oddly enough before I went to study art I had been offered a place at Uni to study Pure Maths and Computer Science. This was at a time when IBM mainframes were the size of a small house. I occasionally wonder what I'd be doing "right now" had I not had a very last-minute change of heart............:-k

 

Pip.

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Well, in my area, they may as well have taken over, already! Musician's ("Live Music") have/has been largely replaced, not by

"Robots," per se', but by Karaoke, and/or Internet Juke boxes!<...>

CB

Unfortunately we have a lot of that around here. Add open-mic nights.

 

But at least we won't get replaced by a robot

 

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Three Cray supercomputers working in parallel have the intellectual combined equivalent of a slug. But maybe slugs will feel insulted everywhere!

 

As a former Cray Research Inc./Cray Computer Company engineering technician, I feel... marginalized. [unsure]

Posted

Who likes Bicentennial man? I loved it. But it shows how we are thousands of years away from that sort of robot.

I do like it but... The main issue it suffers is the shmultzyness...

 

Im a huge Issac Assimov fan which is what the story is based off, the book Robbie... if you have never read Assimov I advise you do.. I don't even read many books cos im a slow reader... but his books I have read... And the MOST amazing thing about them is his understanding of technology and where it will lead us...

 

I mean theres one book called Nine Tomorrows which has nine different short stories in it.. But in those stories he describes things like worldwide computer networks and predicted how small computers will become and how they will integrate into out lives (which is what his books are about really, our relationsships with machines) etc and most of that was written in the late 1930s... I mean he would have had no idea what was going to happen, no one did... but there you go :)

 

I Robot is also based off Assimov and he was the one that wrote the three laws of robotics that has been used pretty much every time people write stories about robots.

Posted

Ohh and as for if robots will take our jobs... well one day they may do....

 

And the thing is its hard to predict with technology...

 

Who would have thought that our phones would become so amazingly powerful and useful... I mean its crazy what a smartphone can do and we are only just scratching the surface... And look how quickly that developed.

 

When it comes I think it will come fast...

 

And also really this is not just about robots but the intelligence behind them.. A true A.I. will learn and develop by itself.. in theory it could learn all of the information on the net in minutes if it had good enough hardware to handle it... And that's what the scary thing is.. The implications of making something that is sentient. Something that thinks for itself and is in theory alive...

 

That's what scares people... because we don't know how that intelligence will see us.. and then what its reaction will be to that...

 

So don't worry so much about your jobs, but what a true A.I. will actually mean to the world in general.

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I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.

 

 

Just a moment...

 

 

Just a moment...

 

 

 

 

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