callen3615 Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Hi, I have been contemplating the standard. I played one today in gc. The neck might as well have had Louisville slugger engraved in it. It was a bat. I played the faded, the neck was thinner. I had 2 guys that worked there check it out, they agreed with me. Isnt the neck supposed to be the same on the faded and the standard???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_randy Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Hi' date=' I have been contemplating the standard. I played one today in gc. The neck might as well have had Louisville slugger engraved in it. It was a bat. I played the faded, the neck was thinner. I had 2 guys that worked there check it out, they agreed with me. Isnt the neck supposed to be the same on the faded and the standard????[/quote'] same neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 Thanks, but the one I played was at least 2mm thicker. Maybe gibson quality control isnt what it used to be. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar slinger Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 They advise you on their website that it's a slim tapered neck and that no neck is equal to other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynvolt Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I own a standard and a faded special, the specials neck joint is 1/4 inch thinner, the neck itself feels thinner also but haven't bothered to measure it. At the heel the standards neck join is almost flush with the body, the special has a 1/4" step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Why gibson??WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike~ Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Why gibson??WHY? Why what? Unless you have tiny hands. I've played both and neither affected my ability to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_randy Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I have the gibson special faded sg and the gibson sg standard and they seem the same to me on mine,other than the lack of finish on the faded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 I do have small hands.....and I would prefer a guitar neck to be comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike~ Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I do have small hands.....and I would prefer a guitar neck to be comfortable. Ok.... but that has nothing to do with Gibson's Quality Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgTime Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Lol dude, they just hand sand those necks, maybe sum1 had their first day and they kinda made a 59 les paul neck. Or... you could think of it this way: A 59 les paul and a 335 went into a guitar repair shop and they liked each other's sunburst, and whenever a man loves a women they get it on... I prefer to think of it that way... Much more... Organic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Lol dude' date=' they just hand sand those necks, maybe sum1 had their first day and they kinda made a 59 les paul neck.[/quote'] Thats what I hope. I really want a standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Ok.... but that has nothing to do with Gibson's Quality Control :- Dude, the necks are supposed to be the same. They were not. All I wanted to know is if people who owned both had thought the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGBENDS Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 Try out a bunch of SG Standards. Eventually you'll find the one that fits you. The more you play any guitar, regardless of neck profile, the more you'll get used to it. Thicker necks have a nice feel to them, and my hands aren't very big. I can bend strings better with a thicker neck and it helps with sustain a bit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Share Posted January 29, 2009 Try out a bunch of SG Standards. Eventually you'll find the one that fits you. The more you play any guitar' date=' regardless of neck profile, the more you'll get used to it. Thicker necks have a nice feel to them, and my hands aren't very big. I can bend strings better with a thicker neck and it helps with sustain a bit too. [/quote'] I went to gc five minutes ago. They only have one standard, but I am willing to adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sok66 Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The original (real) '61s had the wide fingerboard and thin profile common to that year. The necks got progressively chunkier, and narrower at the nut as the 60s wore on. AS I noted in another thread, the PRS "wide - thin" neck profile is a direct lift from the earliest Les Paul SGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameswithesg Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 The original (real) '61s had the wide fingerboard and thin profile common to that year. The necks got progressively chunkier' date=' and narrower at the nut as the 60s wore on. AS I noted in another thread, the PRS "wide - thin" neck profile is a direct lift from the earliest Les Paul SGs. [/quote'] really? my next investment may be a PRS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MI_Canuck Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Hi' date=' I have been contemplating the standard. I played one today in gc. The neck might as well have had Louisville slugger engraved in it. It was a bat. I played the faded, the neck was thinner. I had 2 guys that worked there check it out, they agreed with me. Isnt the neck supposed to be the same on the faded and the standard????[/quote'] Keep trying different ones. I found a used '98 SG Standard a few months ago that just felt sooo good in my hands (short fingers). I decided to measure the neck for grins... And as I suspected, it came out very slim... Somewhere between a '61 RI and Angus sig model actually. I was quite happy with my find! I don't think I'll ever get rid of it. my '98 SG Standard: width nut: 1.656 width 12th: 2.000 thick 1st: 0.781 thick 12th: 0.875 (From everythingsg.com http://www.everythingsg.com/current_models.htm ) Standard: width nut: 1-11/16 (1.6875) width 12th: 2.062 thick 1st: 0.818 thick 12th: 0.963 '61 RI: width nut: 1.6875 width 12th: 2.062 thick 1st: 0.800 thick 12th: 0.895 Angus model: width nut: 1.625 width 12th: 2.032 thick 1st: 0.775 thick 12th: 0.875 cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geff Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Could be bad luck but the two at my local shop (SG faded) both have terrible thick necks. That would not neccesarily be a bad thing as some people like thick necks but, from what I have heard, there could be significant variation from individual guitar to guitar. To me that is a sign of bad quality control. The necks I have seen also have very poor finish, sharp frets and so on. Another sign of poor QC. On the basis of what I have seen, I would NEVER buy an SG online. You really do need to go and pick ! the ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 I have found a 1997 sg hows the neck on those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MI_Canuck Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Could be bad luck but the two at my local shop (SG faded) both have terrible thick necks. That would not neccesarily be a bad thing as some people like thick necks but' date=' from what I have heard, there could be significant variation from individual guitar to guitar. To me that is a sign of bad quality control. The necks I have seen also have very poor finish, sharp frets and so on. Another sign of poor QC. On the basis of what I have seen, I would NEVER buy an SG online. You really do need to go and pick ! [b'][/b]the ONE I would never buy ANY guitar online... It's something you must feel in your hands before buying, otherwise, it's really just a crap shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MI_Canuck Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I have found a 1997 sg hows the neck on those? you tell us... you're the one that found it... how does it feel in your hands??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callen3615 Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 dude its 600 miles away. Ebay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geff Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I would never buy ANY guitar online... It's something you must feel in your hands before buying' date=' otherwise, it's really just a crap shoot. [/quote'] The trouble is that you can often get a much better deal (and the actual guitar you are looking for) online. Some brands/models seem to be worse than others in terms of variation from guitar to guitar. The cheaper Epiphones for example have a terrible reputation for it. It is just a shame that a top-dollar brand like Gibson cant get it together to build guitars that are consistently within close tolerances of the spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nynvolt Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I took a close look at both the special and standard and although the neck joint is thinner, the profile itself feels and looks about the same. I think the gloss finish and binding on the standard make it appear to be beefier, but in my hands they feel about the same. There will be minute discrepancies in thickness though, depending on who finished it at the factory but I just can't see that as being major enough to make you hate a guitar because it's neck is .0001" thicker. As for buying without playing first, I will say I couldn't be happier with my online purchase of my standard. I saved a nice chunk of change and recieved a pristine guitar thats been untouched since the factory set up. I suppose if your extra finicky and it didn't feel just right to you, you could always return it. All the major sources take them back for exchange. My faded special I bought new at GC. No telling the abuse it recieved prior to my purchase. No laquer new guitar smell either :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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