capmaster Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 As most of you know I'm a rather scientifically orientated guy and far from superstitions of all sorts. However, during the early 1990's I happened to experience a scary pursue of events still spine-chilling and obscure to me. My former employer, a wholesale firm, had closed the doors, and I didn't have any certified vocational education then. Soon I was hired as a worker at the warehouse of the German facility of a meanwhile long extinct US-based pharmaceutical company. After some weeks working there I was no longer able to make the way to or from my working place. When about to pass the door of a certain bureau I became weak in the hip, knees, and ankles. I tried hard to keep on my feet by clinging to the handrail, but it didn't work. Fortunately there was a viable detour allowing to avoid the mysterious path. Soon I found out that a female colleague frequently went into and out of the respective room. Sometimes she blew shy glances at me but never replied whenever and wherever I greeted her. It took several weeks of trying, and finally I was able to pass the bureau again like I did during the first weeks there. One and a half years passed, and I started an apprenticeship in the pharmaceutical production. This included educations in every department serving manufacturing like boiler house, mechanical workshop, electrical workshop, warehouse, galenics (product development), chemical-analytic laboratory, and microbiological-analytic laboratory. The lady mentioned above was the secretary of the Package Development and Quality Control Departmant, and I regularly had to pick up samples for laboratory testing there and deliver reports to her. I nearly don't dare saying but what happened every time I came there was both puzzling and frightening. The said lady in the bureau obviously had touched herself for a while and reached the climax just when I stepped into the room. I always went with tactfully leaving backwards in an instant but also had a problem – I hadn't done my job. Being decent and diligent as well, I tried to explain the situation as carefully as possible. However, the Head of the Chemical-Analytic Laboratory didn't seem to understand what I meant saying she had not been approachable. He replied in bewilderment this can't be since he had called her just minutes before. I begged him either not to call her in the future or at least not to tell her who might appear to bring or collect the materials in question. This basically did the trick. Anyway, she was frightened to death and never spoke a word every time I appeared, but at least I was able to fulfil my duties. To my surprise there was an aftermath though. The Head of Education confronted me and considered my statements untenable accusations that would justify firing me during my apprenticeship. Fortunately it didn't come that far. The lady from the bureau touched herself until climax again – sitting at the table next to mine during our annual employees meeting, with over 800 people in the city hall rented for this event, and obvious to several dozens of people. The Head of Education never spoke again about all these incidents. But now finally it gets scary, really, really scary, and I don't get until today what I found out some weeks later while being occupied in the warehouse. I asked the lady colleague who did the sampling of newly received package materials about the lady working in the bureau of her department. She replied that she doesn't know much about her but that her boyfriend is wheelchair-bound due to being paraplegic from the hip downwards. Believe me, that moment I had problems to keep standing on my feet and stay reasonable. Thinking about it still causes shivers running down my spine. Did it have anything to do with me getting weak in my hip, knees, and ankles two years earlier? If so, what? Did she fall in love with me and same time curse me due to feeling obliged to stay with her handicapped boyfriend? Are there powers of mind we can't evaluate?
Mr. Gibson Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Witchcraft or some type of occult I'm guessing. In the US there are an estimated 8000 covens,some reports I've read are saying that's one of the causes of people disappearing here. Is it true? I hope not.
Digger Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I really don't know what to say to that incredible story?
quapman Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 When do we get to the scary part? I woulda just asked if she needed a hand.
btoth76 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Hello Capmaster! If cursing was for real, the humanity have had extincted long ago. Seriously, might it be that the weakness You felt was a psychosomatic reaction to an uncomfortable situation? Best wishes... Bence
Pin Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 When do we get to the scary part? I woulda just asked if she needed a hand. Yes, you don't get "come on" more blatant than that! I would have taken what might be called "full advantage". I think you suffered your own psychosomatic reaction (anxiety) cap to the girl's come on. Maybe, you didn't fancy her anyway but you picked up early that she was giving you the eye and that engendered within you a deep reluctance to go anywhere near her. As to you suffering similar symptomology to her boyfriend I believe that to be coincidental. We often "go weak at the knees" if we suffer high levels of anxiety and it seems to me that is what was happening to you. It appears "sympathetic" to the boyfriend but is simply how your physiology translates anxiety into physical manifestation. This happens with all of us but we differ in what parts of our physiology are affected. It is worth remembering that the entire sympathetic / parasympathetic nervous system is controlled by the vagus nerve within our brain stem. It is the vagus nerve which "trips" and puts us into the "fight / flight" response when we perceive threat as it activates the sympathetic nervous system (in your case you can't walk and feel weak) so you "avoid" (same as running away) the danger. Once passed the parasympathetic nervous system kicks in and brings the body back into its proper balance. That is all normal and is how it is supposed to work. There is just one rider to all of that: the vagus nerve has two branches one in evolutionary terms being much older than the other. In extreme danger the fight / flight response sometimes doesn't work (this happens in young children who cannot fight there way out nor run from it) and then the older branch kicks in and shuts the system down (Freeze response). This causes the phenomenon called "frozen watchfulness" seen in children who are severely maltreated. Hope the above helps. No, nothing paranormal happening here.
merciful-evans Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Certainly a curious account. Have you considered it may have been chronic musculoskeletal pain?
Mr. C.O. Jones Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 When do we get to the scary part? I woulda just asked if she needed a hand. I wouldn't do that. You know what they say: Don't $hit where you eat! And I really don't have nothing against some "soloing", I think it's someting normal and even healthy. But that shouldn't be practiced while working. If you ask me that woman was nuts, and my experience tells me better to stay away from crazy women. It can be amazing for one night, but then starts the trouble. Interesting story, but I agree with the others, nothing paranormal going on here.
Mr. C.O. Jones Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Lame connection, double post. Sooorry!
jdgm Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 If you ask me that woman was nuts, and my experience tells me better to stay away from crazy women. Man that is SOOOO true....but also works the other way - there are many more, crazier men giving trouble to women..... Scariest experience of my life was the result of stupidity, ignorance and over-confidence when I went for a mountain walk one February evening, woefully unprepared; found myself high on an icy ridge (Striding Edge on Helvellyn) and couldn't go on (getting dark) or back the way I came, so had to go down one side or another. As I didn't want to end up sliding into freezing cold Red Tarn I had to go down the other side into Nethermost Cove. People have died falling down there so I was very, very lucky indeed - I literally skirted the huge precipice in the dark - and learned my lesson. I'll NEVER forget that. Paranormal? Well my Guardian Angel was definitely with me that night!
american cheez Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 If you ask me that woman was nuts, and my experience tells me better to stay away from crazy women. It can be amazing for one night, but then starts the trouble. it's been my personal experience that the crazier a woman is, the better she is in bed. and you are sooo right. that's when the trouble starts
capmaster Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 Hello Capmaster! If cursing was for real, the humanity have had extincted long ago. Seriously, might it be that the weakness You felt was a psychosomatic reaction to an uncomfortable situation? Best wishes... Bence There has been nothing uncomfortable to me as far as I was aware. It is very likely she had seen me before I first saw her since my work was obvious from the pathway along the bureau, and her job was doing worksheets for certain arrived goods I had worked on. So looking down to the incoming goods department was part of her job, looking around was not part of mine. Certainly a curious account. Have you considered it may have been chronic musculoskeletal pain? There were no complaints at all on any other place. I went weak just there long before I first became aware of that woman - whyever... :unsure: ... Interesting story, but I agree with the others, nothing paranormal going on here. It's the only thing in my life I can't find a rational causality for. To my senses these specific body weaknesses of mine without knowing anyone or anything about them, happening just then, just there and nowhere else, would be extremely improbable coincidences. Considering what I found out some two years later it is just eerie to me.
btoth76 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I can only recall one similar case in my adult life. When I started working at my current job, I was trained up by a then in Her mid-twenties girl. She was very professional. Brilliant at Her work. But, She was like a dominatrix: cruel and impatient. I felt like a schoolchild. I was very embarrassed as an adult, being exposed to Her aggressive nature. By the end of the training, She left the company. We all felt relieved. But, still up to this day, I get chills when I hear about Her. In fact, She was a nice woman, but Her attitude made Her unattractive. Some of my colleagues still in touch with Her. They told Her about the reputation She had. She was surprised and apologized - She wasn't aware of Her behavior. Best wishes... Bence
Dub-T-123 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 rct Ancient aliens is probably my favorite tv show. We need to go back to gobekli tepe :P
rct Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I love that guy, cracks me up. Spent a long time poking around Area 51 on our 2008 tour. It was a hoot! rct
Guest Farnsbarns Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I was set an "open ended task" by a maths teacher. Simply to make an interesting observation in the area of probability. I wrote a piece about events. In the truest sense of the word event, each of our days is made up of millions of events. I concluded that incredibly improbable events should, therefore, be a regular occurrence. They are, of course, probability falls apart with hindsight so.... if I drop a handful of crumbs in a bin (trash can? ) they will fall into random positions. If I tried to predict those positions I couldn't. Therefore the probability of any result, before the event, is tiny. Those improbabilities go unnoticed, it's only the glaringly apparent ones we notice, but with so many events a number will always have glaringly improbable outcomes. I personally believe there is either an unnoticed causality or there is none, which leaves coincidence alone. That said, when I was about 8 I was messing around in a playground, there was one other kid and his mother. I heard her call him by name and as soon as I realised we shared a name it immediately became a certainty in my mind that we also shared a birthday. I was compelled by this strange feeling to ask him. We did share a birthday. Weird, but.... Once I had experienced that feeling there was always a 1 in 365 chance that I'd be right so not that improbable. The prediction is what makes it glaringly improbable to me.
Dub-T-123 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I love that guy, cracks me up. Spent a long time poking around Area 51 on our 2008 tour. It was a hoot! rct He is great. This guy is good too. I love the way that he pauses and overemphasizes random words in his speech
rct Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Yes! And don't forget ol' Stanton, a loon of many specialities!: rct
Dub-T-123 Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Oh yeah! Have you checked out "In Search of Aliens"? Some of these guys are really cutting loose on that show, and you get extra Giorgio The part that cracks me up most is the way they pose a question to themselves, and then give it the ol "ancient astronaut theorists say YES"
rct Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I would sincerely love to have a beer with them three crackpots we just put up here. It would be the best night ever. rct
skilsaw Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Certainly a curious account. Have you considered it may have been chronic musculoskeletal pain? That's actually quite a nice thought. Rather than pleasuring herself, the poor woman was in so much pain she was twitchy. We need to have empathy and compassion, not thinking the worst of someone when we don't know all that is going on in their life.
stein Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 VERY interesting story, and an intriguing mystery. Paranormal? Sure, I believe such things exist, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. I like to break down facts in mysteries. One thing I have to point out, that what this lady was doing was NOT normal. Therefore, I have to question the possibility that she has no paraplegic boyfriend. The facts just don't line up here. Given she is willing to do the nasty to herself in public, it seems a little more likely she would be willing to tell a story than not. And what motivates her to be compelled to do it? Very interesting indeed. I would say there are questions right there concerning HER. A few I would have, is she embarrassed? Does she do it in public because she wants some to know or possible catch her, or can she genuinely can't help herself and fells bad? Could she, or would she direct some thoughts toward others? If so, what would they be? This is so interesting, I'm gonna have to make separate post as to not make one long boring read.
capmaster Posted August 10, 2016 Author Posted August 10, 2016 ... I would say there are questions right there concerning HER. A few I would have, is she embarrassed? Does she do it in public because she wants some to know or possible catch her, or can she genuinely can't help herself and fells bad? Could she, or would she direct some thoughts toward others? If so, what would they be? This is so interesting, I'm gonna have to make separate post as to not make one long boring read. I agree that this is not normal, but other than with men it's not a crime if women do so here. When about her, about twelve years later and thus eleven years ago I heard two colleagues talking who occasionally worked before at the same plant a new company had bought from my previous employer. The talk was about a seriously horny woman each of them had sex with several times about five years earlier in a storage room before their working shift began. She was employed in a different department, her work started an hour later, but she was there early for the gratuitious service of male workers willing to provide it. I interfered bluntly saying her name, and they confirmed. This is where my knowledge about the story ends. Referring to your statement, I think there would have been questions about her she didn't ask herself by time. She never seemed embarassed about her behaviour. I believe she wasn't even conscious what she did. By the way, I think she wasn't the only one with that. To my guess a paraplegic man just wasn't right for her. I don't know why, but there have been several woman touching herself regularly and publicly when I was present. For several years I thought I got it wrong - this was during the 1970's already and about a schoolmate -, but fortunately in 1985 I was able to clear that up with her best friend during school years, accidentally the sister of a friend I just had made, and she confirmed my assumption. So I hadn't misunderstood anything although I never have seen any relevant movie films until now. Obviously my true perception was granted by nature.
stein Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 The Subconscience: I believe in such things. A good example for me is when in love or wanting to be, and having faith and thinking the best of someone, only later to find out she is a liar and a cheat, or not what you thought she was, or "it" was. And later come to find out, you really knew the whole time. Could be anything in life we just didn't want to know or admit to, and I think we have all experienced learning about stuff hidden in our subconscience that comes out later. Sex and/or love is a powerful thing. Consider when "sparks" fly between two people. Is it real? Is it just a perception in one of the person's head? Or if between two, what causes it? It's certainly something real that we have likely all felt at some point. And to be sure, there IS imagination involved. But I HAVE to wonder, how much is due to the subconscience? Perhaps clues as to attraction or body language, that in many cases, are misread to think someone is attracted or desire that really is nothing, OR other times, clues or body language that we don't openly pick up on, that we are reacting to but not knowing why. Perhaps, at times, buried by hope, and perhaps at times, being creeped out. It can be good or bad: wanted or not wanted, or with good intentions or bad, these "sparks". SO....with a little Sherlock Holmes type investigating...., and if I may be so bold... Knowing a bit about you (CAPMASTER), and if I may say, you have a nature that would NOT take advantage of sex, and if confronted with sex with bad intentions, would tend to distance yourself. Also, you have been fooled before, and I think big time. I might venture to say part of your make-up, part of who you are. I might question the possibility of you have some "demons in the closet", maybe, maybe not. But, mainly, this "evidence" leads me to think you have a subconscience that works in you, also an aversion to sex for bad reasons, and also tendency to want to see good things and a tendency to perhaps close your eyes to bad things. Entirely possible, and logical, that there might have been strong negative "sparks" or signs from this woman that you might not have openly seen, and also that you might have such a strong or definite reaction because it's something you would avoid at all cost. Don't know I could prove it though.
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