capmaster Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Some model pages of the 2016 T line claim a thicker fretboard. They also claimed for a while it would deliver more sustain. Fortunately they meanwhile dropped this debatable statement. According to the specs the neck profiles remained unaltered, thus it would mean a thinner neck bearing the board. Finally, what period necks does "thicker fretboard" refer to? Any thoughts and insights?
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Hello Capmaster! I have seen that too. It made me wonder, whether the neck binding got thicker too. I doubt that. Cheers... Bence
capmaster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 Hello Capmaster! I have seen that too. It made me wonder, whether the neck binding got thicker too. I doubt that. Cheers... Bence To my guess they use bindings of same thickness without problems because they also dress the frets lower. This way the binding may still be sufficient for the nibs.
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 I am confused now. If the thickness of the fretboard is bigger at it's sides, the binding will look wider from the side, regardless of the fretwork. Maybe the radius is different? Resulting increased thickness in the middle of the board? Bence.
capmaster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 I am confused now. If the thickness of the fretboard is bigger at it's sides, the binding will look wider from the side, regardless of the fretwork. Maybe the radius is different? Resulting increased thickness in the middle of the board? Bence. This would mean smaller, "Fender-ish" radiuses, but they still specify 12" for the single-radiused LP boards.
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 What if... Thicker refers to wood density? Probably, native English speakers could confirm it, but I feel it's kind of wrong. Bence.
capmaster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 What if... Thicker refers to wood density? Probably, native English speakers could confirm it, but I feel it's kind of wrong. Bence. I don't think they mean density saying thickness. The pages say density where it's specified.
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Alright. Then, we should ask Mr. Hoross to measure the bindings on His '14 Traditional and '15 Standard. I am very curious now...
rct Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 The blank provider probably stopped making them in the thinnest size that the company had asked for after their manufactured rosewood crisis. So they are probably back to the same ply blank as they were before the "crisis". Add a 64th to the blank, take a 64th off the bed in the neck, the change in everything is net zero. Or, as is often the case in American business, they've simply been allowed to redefine the use of the word "thickness", like was recently done with the "thread count" of linens in this country. All in all it is just the marketing speak du jour of 2016 and the most likely result is paying more for the same thing or less. rct
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 1/16th of an inch. That's whole lot of sustain. Hehe.
rct Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Actually a 16th is a lot when you think about it. rct
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Yes, I meant 64th (stupid cellphone with it's tiny characters). Never mind! Anyways, yes, if it sells more guitars...
Mr. Gibson Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Some model pages of the 2016 T line claim a thicker fretboard. They also claimed for a while it would deliver more sustain. Fortunately they meanwhile dropped this debatable statement. According to the specs the neck profiles remained unaltered, thus it would mean a thinner neck bearing the board. Finally, what period necks does "thicker fretboard" refer to? Any thoughts and insights? Extra coat of nitrocellulose on the fret board made it thicker😬
capmaster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 Extra coat of nitrocellulose on the fret board made it thicker😬 I'm fine with the finish thicknesses of my 1973 and 2011 Gibson maple boards.
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Or, since these new guitars have "hand rubbed" fretboards, less material is removed than the buffing machine did.
capmaster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 Or, since these new guitars have "hand rubbed" fretboards, less material is removed than the buffing machine did. I thought "hand-rubbed" refers to the oiling process...
btoth76 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Really? Then, it's the thickness of the oil film.
capmaster Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 Really? Then, it's the thickness of the oil film. Good point! And the profile measurements still read the same since the gauge is displacing the oil.
badbluesplayer Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 In the US, the way advertisers are, "thicker board" could mean thicker than anything. The implication is that it's thicker than it used to be. And it may very well be. But if they're not specific, they're pretty much always means they're just totally deceptive. As long as it's thicker than a neutron it's probably fine with their legal department.
merciful-evans Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 In the US, the way advertisers are, "thicker board" could mean thicker than anything. The implication is that it's thicker than it used to be. And it may very well be. That's my interpretation. To compound the confusion, to retain the original overall neck thickness, might it also follow that the mahogany neck is correspondingly thinner? ;)
pippy Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Just a guess, but might they be making a reference to the times (and immediately afterwards) when they were making sandwich-fingerboards? The rosewood parts of the sandwich would clearly have been much thinner than 'normal' during this time and perhaps when the 'sandwich' was replaced by 'solid' the solid blanks available were still not quite as thick as had been the case before the raid?.................. Pip.
Karloff Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Actually a 16th is a lot when you think about it. rct That's what she said ...
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