surfpup Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 I hope they aren't falling into the trap of trying to be everything to everyone - that rarely works. Of course in the 80s/90s rack era they sold the JMP rack mounted preamps and rack mounted power amps as I recall.
Rabs Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 I hope they aren't falling into the trap of trying to be everything to everyone - that rarely works. Of course in the 80s/90s rack era they sold the JMP rack mounted preamps and rack mounted power amps as I recall. Yeah ive been thinking about this.. One could say that they are Marshall, they make some of the most amazing and classic amps ever they don't need to start doing modelling and tech stuff.. On the other hand you could argue that as a business they need to keep up with whats going on in the market.... There are some people who love modelling amps so there is a market for them...
kidblast Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 hey,, to each his own. Don't knock em till you try em. I have two fender Mustangs combos and IMHO they are great amps. I'd hit these CODE amps in a heart beat. These kind of amps are only getting better with time. The modeling has come a long way since the first gen amps came out from Line 6. for those basing the opinions on previous amps, you should at least check these newer ones out. edit: reasonably priced too http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Code50Combo
'Scales Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I remember when I was a kid and they were first trying to sell (mainly French) front-wheel-drive cars to Australians. Edit: KB, I'd call that an insanely awesome 'go the hell out and grab one' price actually!
SmokeyGhost Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I remember when I was a kid and they were first trying to sell (mainly French) front-wheel-drive cars to Australians. And automatic gearboxes were only for lazy people.
kidblast Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I remember when I was a kid and they were first trying to sell (mainly French) front-wheel-drive cars to Australians. Edit: KB, I'd call that an insanely awesome 'go the hell out and grab one' price actually! ha! yea,, some innovations are before their time I suppose... it's going to be hard to control the gas on this.. they sound pretty good from the demos.
charlie brown Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 hey,, to each his own. Don't knock em till you try em. I have two fender Mustangs combos and IMHO they are great amps. I'd hit these CODE amps in a heart beat. These kind of amps are only getting better with time. The modeling has come a long way since the first gen amps came out from Line 6. for those basing the opinions on previous amps, you should at least check these newer ones out. edit: reasonably priced too http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Code50Combo Hmmm, that amp's description doesn't say anything, about a footswitch, to change settings/channels, so you can alternate between crunch, and clean, regardless of what amp's being modeled! Maybe the larger models do that??? CB
kidblast Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 yes CB, point taken. There is a jack for a foot switch, but the specs certainly don't elaborate. There is a line in there about controlled from USB or Bluetooth, but that's not going help much when changing sounds on the fly, that just about has to be done via footswitch that is one of the great things about the mustangs from fender, ability for 2 and 4 button foot switch operation gives you quite a bit of remote control.
Rabs Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 Hmmm, that amp's description doesn't say anything, about a footswitch, to change settings/channels, so you can alternate between crunch, and clean, regardless of what amp's being modeled! Maybe the larger models do that??? CB It does work with a footswitch... http://www.andertons.co.uk/combo-amps/pid43659/cid691/marshall-code-25-25w-1x10-digital-combo-amp.asp Specifications GENERAL MODEL: 25C RANGE: CODE TECHNOLOGY: DIGITAL ELECTRONICS PRESETS: 100 WATTAGE: 25W INPUTS: 1 CONTROLS: BASS, MIDDLE, TREBLE, GAIN, VOLUME, PRE FX, AMP, MOD, DEL, REV, POWER, CAB PRE AMP MODELS: 14 POWER AMP MODELS: 4 SPEAKER CABINET MODELS: 8 FX: 24 (5 SIMULTANEOUSLY) SPEAKERS SIZE: 10" ACCESSORIES FOOTSWITCH: PEDL-91009 AVAILABLE SEPARATELY CABLES: POWER DIMENSIONS WEIGHT (KG): 6.1 DIMENSIONS (MM): 350 x 340 x 215
kidblast Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 yea, you can see a FS jack on the control panel. but it says nothing about what is controlled via foot switch.. we must track down an owners manual!
Rabs Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 yea, you can see a FS jack on the control panel. but it says nothing about what is controlled via foot switch.. we must track down an owners manual! https://marshallamps.com/products/amplifiers/code/code-25-4/ Connect via Bluetooth® to control CODE and to stream music from your iOS or Android device using the GatewayTM App. Connect via USB to use CODE as a DAW interface to record, and to stream audio from you computer. Connect your MP3 player via CODE’s dedicated audio input to jam along with your favourite tracks or plug headphones in for a personal CODE experience. Connect CODE’s programmable footcontroller* to assign up to 30 Presets or control panel functions.
kidblast Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Sort of sounds like their answer to FUSE, where you can do all of this with the mustangs albeit with some addon stuff to get to Bluetooth access to an iOS or android tablet, the USB connection to PC is already fully supported with FUSE and works good for setting presets as well as deep editing. However: This wont work in a live situation where you need the ability to control presets (switching from one preset to the next, up / down or things like two or three random "quick access" presets -- "Clean, crunchy, Katie Bar the Door"), as well as control for fx (on/off/tap tempo for modulation, delay, etc..) These sort of on the fly settings needs to have control on the floor keeping your hands, (and your brain free.) as I said, the Mustang design pretty much nailed this aspect. with a MIII IV or V, your pedal board, is the amp and the 2 and 4 button foot controllers. and the functions are editable as to what each one operates what function. the 4 button controller also has a chromatic tuner (which is also on the AMP LCD panel) it makes for a real clean and easy setup and tear down for those times when you only have a few minutes between bands to get your s**t on stage and ready to go. The Mustangs are very good for this purpose. it would be great if the CODE followed this sort of design. or a potential show stopper if it did not
JayinLA Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Alot like the Kemper stuff. Cool, practical for home enjoyment. A tool for a playing musician...not so much.
JScott Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 I have a JMD 100 combo from Marshal at home that sounds really great but load for a house. They weren't sold for very long and had a small cult following. The problem I find is that it just has too many settings that you will never use. Kind of like having 250 TV channels when you only watch 3 but have to have the rest anyway.. Here is a link to it. http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Marshall_JMD1_100_Watt_JMD102_Combo_Amp_Review
RevDavidLee Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Jim Marshall is rolling over in his grave Yes he is.
Pesh Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Since I'm sworn off of anything made by the model-everything-to-sound-like-everything Line 6 (among others); I doubt I'd ever touch one of these, even with a 10ft pole. I've never heard any good sounds come out of something that processes something digitally; to me it always seems like the tone and character of the guitar is lost in the processing. If I want a tube amp that sounds like a tube amp, I'll buy a fecking tube amp.
kidblast Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 to me it always seems like the tone and character of the guitar is lost in the processing. Pesh, I would agree with you, if they had not evolved from how worked a few years ago, but IMHO not really what's going on with the recent offerings (Fender Mustangs for example) They aren't for everyone, (digital modeling amps) and there are definitely subtle variances in comparison to a tube amp, but when you're at playing performance levels with bass/drums/etc, those get lost in the mix. I still absolutely prefer my tube amps over these. I have three very good all tube amps, (fender, marshall and goldtone combos) so I'm clear on the differences. For the times when you'd rather something more portable, with less extra stuff to drag along (pedal boards and the like) these are really quite usable. Like an afternoon jam at a buddies house, open jam on a Sunday at a pub, or if you are one band in a multi-band show, IOW, times when you need something really easy to setup, plug into, and get your sounds out of. This is the nitch these amps fill for me. If I'm doing a full four set gig, recording, or my setup at my bands permanent rehearsal spot, I'm not using one of these. but there are times when they are quite usable, and they are cheap enough where you don't feel like you've wasted a ton of money on something you're not going to use all the time. I have two mustangs, a 1x12 and a 2x12 combo. I can absolutely get some great sounds out of them, you do have to work the presets to get them where you want them, as lots of the factory presets have too much "Stuff" going on. Like I said, when it comes to these newer amps, you may not bite on the idea, but they do hold their own once you get past the learning curve.
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