drathbun Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Hi folks! Many of you know that I recently acquired a 1 of 75, 75th Anniversary 30's Golden Age SJ200 (2012). I've since sold my J200 Standard :(. The SJ200 came with certificate from Gibson Custom Shop. The previous owner had frame the certificate and included the orange label in the framing. So the guitar itself has no label in it. My question is this, should I take the frame apart and re-apply the label to the inside of the guitar, or leave it out of the guitar? I can't believe the guitar came with the label separate.
rct Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Seems like only yesterday we bought guitars to use them. rct
62burst Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 The dilemma is completely understandable, Doug. At least when Martin builds a guitar, they have the decency to stamp the model designation into the neck block so that if the guitar should be stolen, the thief knows how to write and price the Craigslist/Kijiji ad. One vote here for leaving it off. Now- isn't that guitar carrying some beautiful rosewood on the back & sides? Why not give us the money shot ; ).
CAMELEYE Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 I'll vote for leaving it off too. Some interior labels distract from the look of the guitar itself. And in this case, that beautiful J-200 lacks for nothing.
j45nick Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 As long as the serial number is stamped on the neck block, I'd leave the label off, but it's important to keep that documentation with the guitar for resale purposes. Both of my "non-standard" Bozeman guitars have the serial number ink-stamped on the neck block. One also has a label, the other doesn't.
J-200 Koa Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 I will disagree with the majority on this one. After doing a google search on the guitar, the guitar originally had the label on the inside of the guitar. The guitar will always be "modified" with the label removed and framed. The frame is not original to the guitar so return the label to it's intended spot inside the soundhole. The"restoration" will be complete and no one will be suspicious should you decide to sell it down the road..
Motherofpearl Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Definitely leave it off. I've been considering doing the same for my guitars. That paper label is ugly imo. I doubt it will decrease the value of your guitar because it's framed and not in the guitar that's just not realistic.
J-1854Me Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Doug IIRC you work at L&M, right? Even if you didn't, why not call the factory (1800-426-2636) and ask to speak with Don or Jeremy and explain that the label got separated from the guitar, and would it be possible to have them type up a replacement label? Can't hurt to ask! Fred
Fullmental Alpinist Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 Why not call the factory (1800-426-2636) and ...have them type up a replacement label? And if you ask politely they might even send you one of them "Lucky B*stard" labels."
drathbun Posted January 26, 2016 Author Posted January 26, 2016 Doug IIRC you work at L&M, right? Even if you didn't, why not call the factory (1800-426-2636) and ask to speak with Don or Jeremy and explain that the label got separated from the guitar, and would it be possible to have them type up a replacement label? Can't hurt to ask! Fred Yes I do Fred, and that's not a bad idea. I hadn't thought that they might be able to reprint the label.
drathbun Posted January 26, 2016 Author Posted January 26, 2016 The dilemma is completely understandable, Doug. At least when Martin builds a guitar, they have the decency to stamp the model designation into the neck block so that if the guitar should be stolen, the thief knows how to write and price the Craigslist/Kijiji ad. One vote here for leaving it off. Now- isn't that guitar carrying some beautiful rosewood on the back & sides? Why not give us the money shot ; ). The guitar is maple b/s. There were 75 rosewood and 75 maple SJ200's made for the 75th Anniversary. Here is the back:
fortyearspickn Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 I would definitely restore the original label to it's rightful place. While some Gibsons do not have labels - many of them vintage - 'current era' Gibsons do (Ok, there are probably exceptions out there somewhere). I always look for the label inside as part of the authenticity and 'the look'.
j45nick Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 While some Gibsons do not have labels - many of them vintage - 'current era' Gibsons do (Ok, there are probably exceptions out there somewhere). I always look for the label inside as part of the authenticity and 'the look'. Some models that are vintage replicas, like the Legend series (J-45 and L-OO) do not have labels. I don't know if the near-replicas made for the Kalamazoo Gals project have labels or not.
drathbun Posted January 28, 2016 Author Posted January 28, 2016 Thanks for all the replies. I still don't know if the 75th Golden Age came with the label inside the guitar or just included with the case candy. I'm going to leave it in the frame. I doubt I will ever part with this guitar.
sj200strummer Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Hi. I have the rosewood Version and the Label is inside of the guitar. Cheers!
Dotneck Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Yes I do Fred, and that's not a bad idea. I hadn't thought that they might be able to reprint the label. They can probably re-print it but they'll probably have to start from scratch...I doubt it will still be in memory on their printer.
j45nick Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 They can probably re-print it but they'll probably have to start from scratch...I doubt it will still be in memory on their printer. Well, I guess it's one step ahead of an ink stamp with rotating wheels. Then again, maybe not
drathbun Posted January 31, 2016 Author Posted January 31, 2016 Hi. I have the rosewood Version and the Label is inside of the guitar. Cheers! Thanks sj200strummer!
Fullmental Alpinist Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Here's Taylor's version of the same machine:
PrairieSchooner Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Leave it like you found it. That's always my opinion, which is worth exactly what it cost you...
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