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I know this is a guitar forum, but i have a drum question. A friend let me try his drums, i admittedly dont know how that play well, but i believe i have good rythem thanks to guitar instincts. For some reason tho, playin the hi hat on left felt un-natural to me, i am right handed, but wanted to play wit the hat on the right using my right hand/foot, was wondering do any modern drummers play like this? Is this technically the uncorrect way to play?

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I don't know jack about drums, but this came to mind when you mentioned playing right handed. Here's a tribute by some guys who know about a guy who was left handed, but played right handed or something like that LOL:

 

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I know this is a guitar forum, but i have a drum question. A friend let me try his drums, i admittedly dont know how that play well, but i believe i have good rythem thanks to guitar instincts. For some reason tho, playin the hi hat on left felt un-natural to me, i am right handed, but wanted to play wit the hat on the right using my right hand/foot, was wondering do any modern drummers play like this? Is this technically the uncorrect way to play?

If you're right handed it's kinda weird. You can play hi hat with your right hand and left foot ringo starr style as most modern drummers do. Or you can set up your drums left handed (high hat on the right) if you want to play left handed, but if you're right handed you might be better at playing a right handed setup after more practice

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i am right handed, but wanted to play wit the hat on the right using my right hand/foot,

 

 

Can I ask a really stupid question?

You were playing the high hat(on your left) with your right hand and pedaling with your left foot yes?

 

I don't know of or recall any drummers sticking and pedaling with the same hand/foot on high hat.

 

Ringo was left handed and played a right handed kit. The only thing strange about his drumming was how his

fills start with the opposite hand. I only know this because my kid learned Come Together on drums and

all the fills started with the left hand.

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As far as I know, before Ringo pretty much everybody played hi hat with the same side hand and foot. It's called open handed drumming, common in jazz and ye olden styles. Then Ringo came and everybody crossed the right hand over to the hi hat

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As far as I know, before Ringo pretty much everybody played hi hat with the same side hand and foot. It's called open handed drumming, common in jazz and ye olden styles. Then Ringo came and everybody crossed the right hand over to the hi hat

 

This... [thumbup]

 

If I had a dollar for every drummer I played with who used his right had for the high hat and left for the snare.... when I get behind the kit (which is an ugly thing mind you) I do the same.

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As far as I know, before Ringo pretty much everybody played hi hat with the same side hand and foot. It's called open handed drumming,

 

 

Interesting. I never knew that. I just googled open handed drumming.

Never heard of it before. Cool.

 

I will just shut up now.

 

Hey, at least I learned something :)

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As far as I know, before Ringo pretty much everybody played hi hat with the same side hand and foot. It's called open handed drumming, common in jazz and ye olden styles. Then Ringo came and everybody crossed the right hand over to the hi hat

Open handed drumming? Humm, wonder if you can do that in rock? lol..I found it interesting to hear how Ringo played the opposite of his handedness. Someday when we buy our house, i will purchase a drum kit. Right now in my current apartment not really enough room.

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Open handed drumming? Humm, wonder if you can do that in rock? lol...

American drummer Joe English, 1974 to 1977 with Paul Mc Cartney and Wings, plays open-handed. The living British drummer legend Simon Phillips has lots of history in rock and does it, too.

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Two hours with open-handed drumming by Joe English, fantastic music, nice guitars and nice playing, recorded in 1976:

 

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As far as I know, before Ringo pretty much everybody played hi hat with the same side hand and foot. It's called open handed drumming, common in jazz and ye olden styles. Then Ringo came and everybody crossed the right hand over to the hi hat

 

Actually, this is not correct. Before Ringo rock and roll, blues, and jazz drummers crossed hands to play hats and snare. What Ringo popularized was match grip (holding both sticks the same way). Before that most cats played traditional grip. If you aren't familiar with trad. grip, look up Buddy Rich or any jazz drummer from before the late sixties. Stewart Copeland plays a modified trad. grip in that he places the stick in his left hand between his pointer and middle finger instead of between his middle finger and ring finger.

 

Open handed drumming is fairly new and not a lot of drummers utilize it. I think you have to be fairly ambidextrous (I've tried it and it made my crappy drumming even worse), but mechanically it makes since since, with a few exceptions, you do not cross sticks. Off the top of my head the only drummers I can think of that use it are Dave Matthews' and Megadeth's last drummer.

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Ringo was probably about the coolest dude ever in his time, period.

He still is bbp, he still is, IMHO anyway. A pretty grounded guy given his life's experiences and "notoriety" for lack of a better term.

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Actually, this is not correct. Before Ringo rock and roll, blues, and jazz drummers crossed hands to play hats and snare. What Ringo popularized was match grip (holding both sticks the same way). Before that most cats played traditional grip. If you aren't familiar with trad. grip, look up Buddy Rich or any jazz drummer from before the late sixties. Stewart Copeland plays a modified trad. grip in that he places the stick in his left hand between his pointer and middle finger instead of between his middle finger and ring finger.

 

Open handed drumming is fairly new and not a lot of drummers utilize it. I think you have to be fairly ambidextrous (I've tried it and it made my crappy drumming even worse), but mechanically it makes since since, with a few exceptions, you do not cross sticks. Off the top of my head the only drummers I can think of that use it are Dave Matthews' and Megadeth's last drummer.

Very good post. [thumbup] However, open-handed drumming predates the now more popular style of matched-grip drumming. In 1948 Jim Chapin published his book “Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Volume I, Coordinated Independence as Applied to Jazz and Be-Bop.” It is still in print and known among drummers simply as "The Chapin Book" - see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin and here: http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Techniques-Modern-Drummer-Independence/dp/0757995403

 

Some more open-handed drummers are listed at the bottom of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-handed_drumming

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Actually, this is not correct. Before Ringo rock and roll, blues, and jazz drummers crossed hands to play hats and snare. What Ringo popularized was match grip (holding both sticks the same way). Before that most cats played traditional grip. If you aren't familiar with trad. grip, look up Buddy Rich or any jazz drummer from before the late sixties. Stewart Copeland plays a modified trad. grip in that he places the stick in his left hand between his pointer and middle finger instead of between his middle finger and ring finger.

 

Open handed drumming is fairly new and not a lot of drummers utilize it. I think you have to be fairly ambidextrous (I've tried it and it made my crappy drumming even worse), but mechanically it makes since since, with a few exceptions, you do not cross sticks. Off the top of my head the only drummers I can think of that use it are Dave Matthews' and Megadeth's last drummer.

There we go!! I was basically playing telephone with what you told me before :)

 

Shows how good my memory is huh?

 

EVOL is the drum guy!

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Very good post. [thumbup] However, open-handed drumming predates the now more popular style of matched-grip drumming. In 1948 Jim Chapin published his book “Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Volume I, Coordinated Independence as Applied to Jazz and Be-Bop.” It is still in print and known among drummers simply as "The Chapin Book" - see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin and here: http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Techniques-Modern-Drummer-Independence/dp/0757995403

 

Some more open-handed drummers are listed at the bottom of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-handed_drumming

 

Thanks for the correction.

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There we go!! I was basically playing telephone with what you told me before :)

 

Shows how good my memory is huh?

 

 

It's all good brother.

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I took drum lessons in High School, but graduated before I was able to get on the kit. I started practicing on my own and did open drumming style (playing hi hat with the same sand and foot). I also held the sticks in match grip because it was more comfortable for me. I played open drumming style because I didn't know that I was supposed to cross my hands and it probably was for the best for me because coordination was a bit of an issue for me. Had I been able to continue the drum lessons, I'm sure I would have been better. I had a great teacher named Emmanuel Aarons and he used to be a drummer with Frank Sinatra ' s band. He was the best!

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My first instrument was drums.

 

Use left foot, right hand on the hihat. In the long run, doing anything else will become a problem for you.

 

It's not the hihat that will give you the problem, but the rest of the drums will.

 

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I took up the drums late in life, just cause I was unhappy with the sound of drum machines.

No lessons and I ain't that good either.

 

I play the hh with my right hand and the left hand handles the snare.

 

I actually feel my left foot might be more solid for the kick drum, but I play it with my right foot.

 

The only reason I play the kit that way is that's the way I saw most folks playing the kit.

 

 

I hold the sticks mostly matched style.

 

 

I have only owned one acoustic kit my entire live, but last year or so I added a Yamaha digital set. It's just a nice way to practice without driving everyone in the house bonkers.

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