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You've chosen the right guitar. The old Vintage ones will break your back. Id say LP's could account for 10% of Back Problems around the world lol. Im not the best person to say but anything from Classics upwards are the best Gibby LP's you can get (Studios are bad these days, from Classic upwards are the killer Gibson "Gibson" guitars if you know what I mean)

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You've chosen the right guitar. The old Vintage ones will break your back. Id say LP's could account for 10% of Back Problems around the world lol. Im not the best person to say but anything from Classics upwards are the best Gibby LP's you can get (Studios are bad these days' date=' from Classic upwards are the killer Gibson "Gibson" guitars if you know what I mean)[/quote']

 

Studios are bad these days? Certainly not the one I just bought...

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There will as many opinions about which Les Paul to look for as there are posts here. Us Les Paul owners are an opinionated lot. There are a bunch of Les Pauls to choose from, and they're all different in their own way. Even like models have their suble or not so subtle differences.

 

Your best bet will be to get out and play as many as you can get your hands on. You'll know it when you meet "the one". Don't buy into the mythology, either. Let your hands, ears, eyes, and wallet be the judge.

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They use bad wood. So do the Faded series' date=' so Ive been told, by someone who cut one up (apparently..)[/quote']

 

Nobody bought that guitar and cut it up. Who ever told you that is full of crappolla, as we mentioned in your other post about it.

 

 

Seriously.

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As mentioned play them. I bought my 07 LP Std while I was in Nashville over the Christmas holidays. Went to the Gibson Showcase and played as many as possible until I found one I liked (both playability, sound and looks). They had a alot to choose from. Took my a couple of hours and even left the store. Came back and did it again just to verify my initial thoughts and purchased the guitar.

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The Les Paul Supreme did not disappoint me and exceeded my expectations. A guy that bought a Standard at the same time said it really was superior to his and he loves his guitar.

 

If you're willing to spend upwards of $2000-3000, go for a chambered body if you can find one. The Supreme and the Studio Premium Plus were the only two models I know of that had this and the latter may have been discontinued in the change from 2007 to 2008 (correct me if I'm wrong there).

 

The chambering not only makes it lighter but the sound is a lot richer to me and really helps with some extra sustain.

 

As for the Les Paul Studio, it sounded great in the store to me. Gibson claims it has the same sound quality as the upper Gibson Les Pauls minus the cosmetics and fancy bindings but I think a good Supreme or Custom would beat it. The Standard sounded slightly better to my ear though I may have been imagining.

 

Either way, the Les Paul Studio was LIGHT YEARS ahead of any Epiphone Les Paul in sound quality. You can't go too wrong with a true Gibson Les Paul.

 

PS: Haven't tried the Classics, Fadeds, or Double Cutaways enough to give a reasonable opinion. Just try them all no matter what anyone tells you. You've got to pick what sounds best to you and determine if guitar A really *sounds* 2000 dollars better than guitar B.

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I just bought a brand new LP Standard. Not too heavy, due to chambering but the Gibbo sound/tone is right there! Compared it with my mates 1981 Standard and there was no difference except mine is not a back breaker!!

He was sooooooooo jealous.

Paid £1,349 GBP

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Nobody bought that guitar and cut it up. Who ever told you that is full of crappolla' date=' as we mentioned in your other post about it.

 

 

Seriously.

 

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Yeah... i dont see me buying a guitar (any guitar, not even a cheap learning guitar) and cutting it in half...

 

Theres a lot of info on the net about how bad gibsons are "this days" (i just made a post about it) but i wouldnt take them for real... i just happen to have a standard faded and it is a fine guitar, good looking, and better sounding.

 

And, again, i wouldnt even have nightmares about cutting her in half.

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Hi For waht it is worth, the advice about playing as many as you can is absolutely the right way to go. I spent a day in the Guitar Village in Guildford UK choosing. Also they let me take my amp to play then through, as this is what I will be playing it through it made sense. I played everything in the shop, New, used, fender, Epi, PRS I then made a shortlist went for lunch and then played the shortlist, in the end it came down to three, A Custom art and Historic 57 with Bigsby, a Honey burst Standard and a Historic 68. With my eyes shut it went to the '68

 

Took a day but how often do you make a purchase like that??

 

Good Luck

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Thanks guys' date=' pretty confusing though I think as everyone has a different opinion '](*,)

What do you expect? You just asked the entire world a general question. ](*,) By posting this question on the forum, you've committed yourself to posting pics of whatever you buy...so you know.

 

LP Standard, if you want something nicer and more expensive, try for the 58 Standard Reissue or 58 Vintage Original Spec; they're top notch guitars in your price range.

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They use bad wood. So do the Faded series' date=' so Ive been told, by someone who cut one up (apparently..)[/quote']

It's one thing to believe the person who says the fadeds and studios are made of bad wood, but it's worse to believe that from a person who claims he cut up those guitars. It was probably some guy who was bashing on Gibson to make another brand look better, or a guy trying to sell you his own types of guitars.

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Jesus, i am so tired of this "bad wood" thing.

 

As you all know, I own a 2007 chambered LP Std Faded which according to these people is little more than firewood. I am here to tell you, that guitar sings better than my 1995 Studio, which was made in the time when the corksniffers say the Gibson QA was at its peak. And like I said in my other post, I think it outperformed the R0 and G0 that I tried at the local GC.

 

That's right, my firewood kicked the living **** out of not one, but two Custom Shop VOS Reissues. Each guitar is different and you just have to play them. My complaint with Gibson isn't about QA or chambering or bad wood. It's their skyrocketing prices. It's pretty much gotten to the point where the average joe can't afford them.

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I forgot to mention he bashes Gibsons all in favour of Epiphone Elitists. Here's how it goes (for him) Gibson CS>Epiphone Elitist>Gibson USA High End>Epiphone>Gibson USA Low End (Studios, Fadeds ect.)> Epiphone Low End (Junior, Special).

 

Yes it sounds like complete bullshit, Let me locate his post, which nearly made me sick...

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I forgot to mention he bashes Gibsons all in favour of Epiphone Elitists. Here's how it goes (for him) Gibson CS>Epiphone Elitist>Gibson USA High End>Epiphone>Gibson USA Low End (Studios' date=' Fadeds ect.)> Epiphone Low End (Junior, Special).

 

Yes it sounds like complete bullshit, Let me locate his post, which nearly made me sick...[/quote']

 

i have never played an Epi that could even compare to my Studio.

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Just wondering if someone can answer a few Standard Questions

 

What sort of body does the Standard have, One piece top and back? Does someone know? Or is 1 piece a CS thing? Oh and, is it possible to have the headstock of a Standard Binded like a Classic Antique, I LOVE the look of a binded headstock!

 

And does it have Pearloid Inlays, if not what type?

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Just wondering if someone can answer a few Standard Questions

 

What sort of body does the Standard have' date=' One piece top and back? Does someone know? Or is 1 piece a CS thing? Oh and, is it possible to have the headstock of a Standard Binded like a Classic Antique, I LOVE the look of a binded headstock!

 

And does it have Pearloid Inlays, if not what type?[/quote']

 

The Standard has a two piece top; can't speak for the back. The new Standards do not have a bound head stock. The inlays are "figured, swirl acrylic" trap inlays......................................basically pearloid.

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