PelhamBlueFire Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Thinking about getting a Fender Twin amp next. Now, I remember a former bandmember mentioning them as being loud amps. How loud are they exactly? I played through one in a store some time ago, but that one was barely turned up. So, could you guys share your thoughts and experiences with Fender Twins with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelhamBlueFire Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 Not sure I think 80 watts or so. I had a 40 Fender Hot Rod Deluxe and it was loud as hell. Could barley stand it past 4 or 5, but they do go to 12. Just looked it up. 85 Watts, wow! What would happen if I turned up the Twin to 8 or 9 in a small bar? And would my band hate me if I rehearsed with them with the volume set at 6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Twins can be 85, 105 or 135 watts depending on the version. Â The reissue would be 85 I think and plenty loud; a Twin really starts singing at about 4 which is slightly higher than the man at the gig wants me to play..... You might get it up to about 6 or even 7 on a very loud rehearsal but after that you won't hear any increase in volume so much as a change in tone. You may find a technically louder/cleaner valve amp these days but it will be handwired and very pricey. I discovered the Twin has very high treble frequencies for a guitar combo - higher than a Roland JC120 and I once had one of those too. Â I've had several in my time including a Super Twin and since the late 80s have owned Fender Twin II combos (105w) which are extremely loud; I'm on my 2nd but it's so heavy and a bit too loud for small gigs, so I take my red-knob Fender Super 60 which is 'half a red-knob Twin' and that's heavy and loud enough! Also own a 70s silverface Fender Dual Showman 2 x 12" MV combo (135w) which I think did come like that from the factory. Then they stopped making Dual Showmans for awhile and Twins became 135w, i.e. same thing as a DS had been. Â A reissue Twin would be a good very loud clean amp. They take pedals very well too. Â Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Blisteringly loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 They can be loud as hell. A bandmate of mine owned one some years ago. It was rated 85 watts but easily blew any Marshall rated 100 watts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Almost painfully loud but they are the epitome of clean tones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Plenty Loud! Probably too loud, at it's "sweet spot," for all but the larger venues. Still, some use them in bars, around here! But, those players are already deaf! Â I have a 1980 135 watt version! I rarely get to use it, anymore! The Clean tone is to die for, and it takes pedals really well! But, I get yelled at, for being "too loud," when I use my Blues Jr. So, the Twin is only used outdoors, or in much larger venues, than I normally play in, which are usually bars, and small clubs. Â My Marshall 100 watt TSL 1/2 stack is a nice living room fixture! Â CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 ...those players are already deaf! After seeing the pic of you standing in front of that Marshall Major full stack I'm guessing you speak from experience here :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 After seeing the pic of you standing in front of that Marshall Major full stack I'm guessing you speak from experience here :) Â Well, yes and no. Oddly enough, standing in front of the Marshall Major, was not as painful, as one might think! Now, out in the audience, a bit, it was incredibly painful=LOUD. But, right in front of it, not so much, as the sound "cone" volume peak, was much further out. Â And, with a 30 year hiatus, my hearing is still pretty good, for the most part. Â The thing I've always loved, about Twin Reverb's" is (one) the lush Reverb, and (two) the clean/FULL tone, they have. I loved Dual Showman's, as well! Especially the "small box" twin 15 JBL cabinets! They were very "tight" yet full sounding! And, more manageable, to haul around, back then, as well. But, the Twin was even more "compact," in comparison. Â CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 What would happen if I turned up the Twin to 8 or 9 in a small bar? Â It would be your last gig there that's for sure. Twins are painful! They are more than just loud - they are ice pick loud. I've stood a few rows back from Eric Johnson and it's not the Marshall that kills you, it's the two twins he uses for cleans. But on 2 or 3 they work great in a band setting and take pedals well. They are also very heavy. The 65 represents the year of the reissue and the weight of the d@mn thing! A more user friendly option is the Deluxe Reverb. Very similar sound in a portable size You can run them up a bit more - though 22 watts is still loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I still have mine & she stays in the studio. It's just too heavy to cart around. Wonderful clean headroom & I second the fact that they take pedals very well but this amp can easily cause hearing loss. There's loud & then there's "hurt me please".. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Well, yes and no. Oddly enough, standing in front of the Marshall Major, was not as painful, as one might think! Now, out in the audience, a bit, it was incredibly painful=LOUD. But, right in front of it, not so much, as the sound "cone" volume peak, was much further out.  And, with a 30 year hiatus, my hearing is still pretty good, for the most part.  The thing I've always loved, about Twin Reverb's" is (one) the Reverb, and (two) the clean/FULL tone, they have. I loved Dual Showman's, as well! Especially the "small box" twin 15 JBL cabinets! They were very "tight" yet full sounding! And, more manageable, to haul around, back then, as well.  CB I'm really in the market for a fender combo right now for the two reasons you listed. The reverb is so drippy on the real deal.. I've been frustrated for years trying to get that sound by other means.  The clean sound is perfection to my ears, and I love that you can be squeaky clean at band volumes. The "vibrato" is nice too  Only problem is I have to carry it up a flight of stairs to get it out of the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I'm really in the market for a fender combo right now for the two reasons you listed. The reverb is so drippy on the real deal.. I've been frustrated for years trying to get that sound by other means.  The clean sound is perfection to my ears, and I love that you can be squeaky clean at band volumes. The "vibrato" is nice too  Only problem is I have to carry it up a flight of stairs to get it out of the house.   Yeah, Twin's are NOT lite! Right at 90 pounds, as I remember. (Although, I haven't weighed mine, recently.) I put casters, on mine, so I could roll it as much as possible! But, as I mentioned, I rarely get to use it, anymore.  Good Luck, on your quest!  CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 If you can get a Twin to 8 or 9 I will move to your town next week so I can play there. Â Other than that I can only say that in todays bar band world there is no need for one. Everyone else has already answered it. Â rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 We should all try and remember the Twin Reverb Reissue is not a Twin Reverb. Â Describing the sound of one is not describing the sound of the other. Â I think some might be referring to their reissue as just "Twin"...I wonder, because some of the descriptions sound like the reissue, and not an actual "Twin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 We should all try and remember the Twin Reverb Reissue is not a Twin Reverb.  Describing the sound of one is not describing the sound of the other.  I think some might be referring to their reissue as just "Twin"...I wonder, because some of the descriptions sound like the reissue, and not an actual "Twin". . I was referring to the dreaded much maligned 70's Silverface, even the ones with the pull master for some grit. I had a couple few of them back then, they were nasty loud and heavy as hecks and I had giant arms and a strong back and could smoke a Winston or two while carrying it in.  rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny V Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 The Fender Twin is loud, clean sounding and heavy. Unless you are play at huge venues you really don't need it, but they are a great amp. I would not think of ever selling mine, and it never leaves my music room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 They're great, for any guitar! But, I've always LOVED their tone, with a Semi-hollow body (ES-335, 345, 355, or equivalent), and most of the Gretsch guitars, as well. Never mind Telecasters, Strats, SG's and Les Pauls!" LOL Â CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brytam Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Bought a Fender "The Twin" a few years ago at a guitar show at a good price. Cleanest sound & most incredible reverb I had ever heard. Also, the loudest amp I had ever played through! 100 watts...but it had a 1/4 power switch that I thought would reduce it to 25 watts, but in reality what it does is cause it to break up earlier...still WAY too loud. Â Sold it to get a Fender Twin Reverb Reissue. Loved this amp too. Something about the 2X12 configuration. Anyway, it was way too loud as well...& heavy @ 64 lbs! Â Hated to, but sold it. Now I have a Fender Deluxe Reverb reissue. Gone is the 2X12 fullness down to a 1X12 but my hearing is intact! Â I am happy with the Deluxe Reverb. 22 watts is all I need + I can actually pick it up & transport it without getting my son to get it out of the house as before....LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Yeah, Deluxe Reverb's are great, too! And, just about "perfect" for most venues, mic'd or not. Â CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevDavidLee Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I am talking about this Fender Vintage Reissue '65 Twin Reverb Guitar Combo Amp. Â Â It weighs 65 pounds with cover & casters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelhamBlueFire Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 I am talking about this Fender Vintage Reissue '65 Twin Reverb Guitar Combo Amp. Â Â It weighs 65 pounds with cover & casters 65 pounds? WoW! Did they fill that thing up with rocks, or what? Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelhamBlueFire Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 We should all try and remember the Twin Reverb Reissue is not a Twin Reverb. Â Describing the sound of one is not describing the sound of the other. Â I think some might be referring to their reissue as just "Twin"...I wonder, because some of the descriptions sound like the reissue, and not an actual "Twin". How are they different, stein? I'm sure there's different tubes in them, and speakers probably. But does the Reissue get anywhere in the originals ballpark as far as sound-quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelhamBlueFire Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 It would be your last gig there that's for sure. Twins are painful! They are more than just loud - they are ice pick loud. I've stood a few rows back from Eric Johnson and it's not the Marshall that kills you, it's the two twins he uses for cleans. But on 2 or 3 they work great in a band setting and take pedals well. They are also very heavy. The 65 represents the year of the reissue and the weight of the d@mn thing! A more user friendly option is the Deluxe Reverb. Very similar sound in a portable size You can run them up a bit more - though 22 watts is still loud. I am baffled that it's the Twins that are percieved as louder than those gigantic Marshall stacks. I always thought a Marshall like that would smoke a small combo amp like the Twin. But I guess what makes them painful, is the frequencies that those Fenders cover. Lots of treble, I suppose. Which, of course, cuts like a knife. Marshalls compress a lot more, and they're generally mid-focussed, so that's why they are more tolerable when you're standing that close to EJ. How was that experience, seeing him live? I live in Europe, so I haven't had the chance to see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Don't forget that there are some ~40 watt Fender models right in between the Deluxe Reverb and the Twin Reverb. They make the Vibrolux Reverb and the Super Reverb. Both of those amps are plenty loud enough for most anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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