Digger Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Was fascinated when a mate sent me this link! https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/triton-world-s-first-artificial-gills-re-breather#/story $299 USD Then I checked with Snopes. http://www.snopes.com/triton-scuba-mask-design/ Amazing if it worked!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Hmm...not convinced. At all. From the Snopes article you linked to - "The holes of the threads are smaller than water molecules, they keep water out and let oxygen in. The micro compressor then extracts and stores the oxygen — allowing you to breathe naturally and revel in your underwater freedom. We are using a very powerful modified micro compressor, it compresses oxygen and stores the extracted oxygen in a storage tank. The micro compressor operates through a powerful modified lithium-ion battery." My italics. Water is (as we all know) H2O, so to "keep water out and let oxygen in" - does it separate the hydrogen and oxygen molecules? How? Converts water into air? How? "Stores the extracted oxygen in a storage tank" - what storage tank? How much oxygen? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Worth keeping an eye on to see what transpires I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Hmm...not convinced. At all. From the Snopes article you linked to - "The holes of the threads are smaller than water molecules, they keep water out and let oxygen in. The micro compressor then extracts and stores the oxygen — allowing you to breathe naturally and revel in your underwater freedom. We are using a very powerful modified micro compressor, it compresses oxygen and stores the extracted oxygen in a storage tank. The micro compressor operates through a powerful modified lithium-ion battery." My italics. Water is (as we all know) H2O, so to "keep water out and let oxygen in" - does it separate the hydrogen and oxygen molecules? How? Converts water into air? How? "Stores the extracted oxygen in a storage tank" - what storage tank? How much oxygen? Where? There is oxygen disolved in water above and beyond the 2 oxygen atoms in the water molecules. That's what fish and aquatic plants process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 There is oxygen disolved in water above and beyond the 2 oxygen atoms in the water molecules. That's what fish and aquatic plants process. Yes...just remembered water in fish tanks has to be oxygenated......of course.... Still not convinced though.....considering the amount you need in order to breathe underwater.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 All I know is that several years ago I decided to take a scuba class while we were on vacation (holiday) in Hawaii. The Mrs. is an avid diver and I thought "okay, this will be fun". NOT. Too claustrophobic and I lasted about two breaths underwater (in the shallow end of the hotel pool, no less) and popped out like a cork. Can't imagine even entertaining using this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 You guys try it first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 Yes...just remembered water in fish tanks has to be oxygenated......of course.... Still not convinced though.....considering the amount you need in order to breathe underwater.... That's because the water in fish tanks is still and without waves and rain wont have a source of oxygen on it's own Much of the oxygen in the ocean comes from marine plants anyway but probably can't fit enough in a small tank to sustain the fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 All I know is that several years ago I decided to take a scuba class while we were on vacation (holiday) in Hawaii. The Mrs. is an avid diver and I thought "okay, this will be fun". NOT. Too claustrophobic and I lasted about two breaths underwater (in the shallow end of the hotel pool, no less) and popped out like a cork. Can't imagine even entertaining using this. I qualified as a SCUBA diver on my 14th birthday and it was my life for many years. Are you generally claustrophobic Dennis? Referring now to BadBluesPlayer's comment now, not difficult to try this as you could just start by ducking your head under the water and breathing, not much different to a snorkel really. I could easily see the need for some sort of qualification for using these things as many of the same physiological risks that apply to SCUBA will apply to this (if it works as advertised) You couldn't just give one to a kid and let them swim off with it! An example would be "traumatic air embolism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Hayden Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 I'll pass , report back and let me know if it works 4H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 I'll pass , report back and let me know if it works 4H Chuckle....never stuck your head under water in the bath 4H? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Are you generally claustrophobic Dennis? Big time. It's aisle seats or nothing for me on airplanes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 .....you could just start by ducking your head under the water and breathing..... Er...um....think I may have read this wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 Er...um....think I may have read this wrong? Starting to worry about your thought processes jdjm'''Grin~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Starting to worry about your thought processes jdgm'''Grin~ OK you try "ducking your head under the water and breathing" mate!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Referring now to BadBluesPlayer's comment now, not difficult to try this as you could just start by ducking your head under the water and breathing, not much different to a snorkel really. I could easily see the need for some sort of qualification for using these things as many of the same physiological risks that apply to SCUBA will apply to this (if it works as advertised) You couldn't just give one to a kid and let them swim off with it! An example would be "traumatic air embolism". Interesting to say the least - would be a great compromise between snorkel and scuba. I thought it said only to 15ft....the local swimming pool is 10-12 ft deep so I don't know if you'd get health issues diving to 15. On the other hand, how does one know how deep you are in the water I guess without a weighted belt you wouldn't go very deep? It does occur to me that if they are developing this and seeking $50k, then the navy of many countries would have done it long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Interesting to say the least - would be a great compromise between snorkel and scuba. I thought it said only to 15ft....the local swimming pool is 10-12 ft deep so I don't know if you'd get health issues diving to 15. On the other hand, how does one know how deep you are in the water I guess without a weighted belt you wouldn't go very deep? It does occur to me that if they are developing this and seeking $50k, then the navy of many countries would have done it long ago. There is a graduated restriction in breathing after 15 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 OK you try "ducking your head under the water and breathing" mate!! I've done just that many many times~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Interesting, I've snorkeled before but never dived. No interest really, twice while snorkeling: Once I freaked out over a big Eel coming straight for me and another time a big shark and swallowed a bunch of water both times. That cured the ocean for me, the fish can have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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